Don't knock it .. 60L is better than 58L . Free rides for all because of operating incompetence.
Clapped out seems a strange choice of wording. The fleet are showing ever impressive reliability according to the latest MR magazine informed sources column.
Especially considering 1M11 has spent 5 minutes at Crewe waiting time.
I suspect that the majority of the time when 805s have faults is when they're on Diesel and of course needing all 3 GUs running perfectly seems to be a big ask for an 805, which I believe is needed for them to be able to run over the Settle and Carlisle. I wonder how the reliability of the 805 fleet was assessed and what proportion of the 805s during this assessment were running on diesel.
Because you don't stick shed loads of "what if " time in because the units are having problems.
I would imagine pretty much every eventuality was assessed during testing. Certainly was with the Stadler bimodes we tested thoroughly over many many months. The weather conditions don’t look good across the S&C today with Dave closing in. What effect that has on their traction too I’m not sure.
Well I get the distinct impression that even when the units are on 100% power/no faults, they still seem to struggle at times on the S&C diversions.
Fair enough but the Everos certainly don't seem to like the S&C.
Definitely no SP on the 805s.
Okay thanks for that so very bizarre that it is showing standard premium as available for all of these services
Avanti's 15:08 Preston to Carlisle service (via Appleby) looks to have been cancelled and is now showing as such on Avanti Journey Check and also on Real Time Trains. Last train at 17:07?
Yes the 15:08 from Preston and it's return working from Carlisle were only cancelled at 16:05.
In fairness today's issues were down to the tree on the line although I don't know why/how this supposedly prevented the 15:08 from Preston to Carlisle and it's return working from running.
I think Avanti tried very hard to make the service work back in January ... And they most likely will try the same again..... But what can they do when the trains they have been given to work with keep breaking down ? Repeated Generator Failures is sending the message that these Hitachi trains are not fit for purpose ..
It’s a shame really! If the S&C diversions had been successful they might of considered trialling the Everos on the Glasgow via Dumfries diversions which we have lost as a result for loosing the 221s.
It seems brave to send units designed for a slow flat totter in North Wales up the Cumbrian fells. The time losses and cold trains seem to show their limitations but there’s a big difference between reliable and fit for purpose.
They won't do that. They have to rob Wales to be able to do this. Doing GS&W diverts would end up so sporadic across a day.
I wonder why the 807s were not ordered as bi mode.
Because Liverpool is electrified.
But they could be used on other routes
The only normal Avanti route which is not electrified is the Chester/North Wales services for which there are enough class 805, especially since they were ordered before the Shrewsbury route was dropped.
Be silly carrying all that extra weight/equipment around for a very odd occasion of use. GWR wouldn’t have done it on so many had Oxford/Bristol/Swansea been fully wired.