What are considered high value passes and low value passes on the TFL network?

[Denim78]

Hey,

Ive been watching a load of those fare dodger programmes and they mention high value passes a lot but when I try and do some research, there’s not a clear document online stating what TFL considers a high value pass and low value passes?

 

[MrJeeves]

Typically anything with a discount (or free) travel.

That might include Freedom Passes, Staff and Nominee Passes, 60+ Oysters, Zip Cards, Apprentice/Student Oysters, Priv/PTAC-discounted Oysters etc.

I also keep thinking that I see a yellow light illuminate for my Railcard-discounted Oyster, but I'm never entirely sure!

 

[kacper]

I also keep thinking that I see a yellow light illuminate for my Railcard-discounted Oyster, but I'm never entirely sure!

Mine has at some stations, usually overground served ones I've found

 

[electrostar357]

Mine has at some stations, usually overground served ones I've found

Both you and @MrJeeves are not seeing things. Those yellow lights are for the benefit of revenue protection staff and basically flag up when a particular ticket type is used (programmed in the barrier's control unit). A lot of the time it's forgotten about and left programmed in from the last revenue blockade.

 

[Denim78]

Typically anything with a discount (or free) travel.

That might include Freedom Passes, Staff and Nominee Passes, 60+ Oysters, Zip Cards, Apprentice/Student Oysters, Priv/PTAC-discounted Oysters etc.

I also keep thinking that I see a yellow light illuminate for my Railcard-discounted Oyster, but I'm never entirely sure!

Thank you very much for letting me know

 

[Fawkes Cat]

Hey,

Ive been watching a load of those fare dodger programmes and they mention high value passes a lot but when I try and do some research, there’s not a clear document online stating what TFL considers a high value pass and low value passes?

ypically anything with a discount (or free) travel.

That might include Freedom Passes, Staff and Nominee Passes, 60+ Oysters, Zip Cards, Apprentice/Student Oysters, Priv/PTAC-discounted Oysters etc.

I would speculate that it's a convenient way to select travellers to challenge: anything that gives an open-ended discount is at risk of many, many free journeys being made on it, whether legitimate or otherwise. Compare that to (e.g.) a travelcard on an Oyster which realistically is time-limited to how much evasion can take place - and which has been paid for in the first place, which also limits the amount of money that TfL are losing.

But this is nothing more than convenience for TfL. I don't see any reason why TfL might not choose to look at a wider range of tickets being used for fare dodging. TfL are probably as aware as everyone else of the risk of fishing out the pond: at some point they'll find it's easier to tackle fare dodging by pursuing other risks. So no one can afford to assume that fare dodging with something other than a high value pass will go undetected.

 

[ChilliSauce]

Hey,

Ive been watching a load of those fare dodger programmes and they mention high value passes a lot but when I try and do some research, there’s not a clear document online stating what TFL considers a high value pass and low value passes?

To try and answer your initial question:

The highest value of 'high value pass' could very well be the Active Staff (light blue) and Retired Staff (dark red) Oyster Cards ..

These are available for use 24/7 and on underground / overground / red buses.

 

[Joshua_Harman]

To try and answer your initial question:

The highest value of 'high value pass' could very well be the Active Staff (light blue) and Retired Staff (dark red) Oyster Cards ..

These are available for use 24/7 and on underground / overground / red buses.

And Bus drivers, Purple oyster