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Krystal

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TT-ONR-NRN said:
Would anyone be kind enough to list all of the 465s and 466s which have now been scrapped (or are stood down) please?
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465005, 465188, all the 465/2s (465235-465250), 465905, 465915, 465917, 465918, 465920, 465921, 465931, 465933, 465934.
All of these 465s have been scrapped with the exception of 465241, 465242 and 465247. 465005 has been seen on road but to where, time will tell (although it's probably going to become a can of beans)
As for the 466s, the 466s that have been stood down are 466001, 466002, 466004, 466005, 466007, 466009, 466010, 466012-466017, 466020, 466024, 466025, 466027-466033, 466036, 466037, 466041 and 466043.
Of these 465s, only 466043 survives in the hands of the East Kent Railway. 466016 has been seen on road but to where, time will tell (although it's probably going to become a can of beans)

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Roger B said:
Any idea which scrapyard it's heading to, please?
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Kingsbury
 
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Krystal said:
465188, all the 465/2s (465235-465250), 465905, 465915, 465917, 465918, 465920, 465921, 465931, 465933, 465934.
All of these 465s have been scrapped with the exception of 465241, 465242 and 465247.
As for the 466s, the 466s that have been stood down are 466001, 466002, 466004, 466005, 466007, 466009, 466010, 466012-466017, 466020, 466024, 466025, 466027-466033, 466036, 466037, 466041 and 466043.
Of these 465s, only 466016 survives in Doncaster.

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I’ve not actually seen confirmation that 465921 has actually been scrapped?
 
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50002Superb said:
I’ve not actually seen confirmation that 465921 has actually been scrapped?
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It went to Booths with 465934 (not long before Booths' previous operators shut up shop), however on the day it was believed 920 was the unit with 934. Only when someone went the scrapyard and saw what went for sure was it confirmed 921 went and that someone had misidentified it on the relevant drag, which given the similar IDs makes sense, plus I believe there were barrier wagons at each end making their numbers much harder to spot on the move.
 
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465044 has been named after Jeremy Washington OBE
 

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brad465 said:
Really? As much as I'd be pleased to see it preserved, does that railway even have space for anymore stock?
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Yes 100% sold to them. No idea about space, possibly might go somewhere else in the meantime if no space currently?
 
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Laura Trott (MP for Sevenoaks) has posted on Facebook that from the December 2026 timetable change, Sevenoaks will return to 6 fast tph to London all day (presumably meaning the Charing X - Tunbridge Wells trains will go back to running all day, as they did pre-COVID). At the same time, air-conditioned trains are to be introduced on (at least some of) the Tunbridge Wells trains (i.e. not Networkers), so presumably there'll be another shift around.

Quite where this stock is coming from is a mystery - perhaps the 375s and 377s which berth at Grove Park between the peaks will be used, with the Networkers relegated to peak time only?

There is also good news for #Sevenoaks. From December, there will be six fast trains per hour throughout the day...
Southeastern has also reiterated that air-conditioned trains will be introduced on services starting and terminating at Tunbridge Wells—an important improvement in comfort for passengers and one I am personally very pleased with.
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ponponjo said:
Laura Trott (MP for Sevenoaks) has posted on Facebook that from the December 2026 timetable change, Sevenoaks will return to 6 fast tph to London all day (presumably meaning the Charing X - Tunbridge Wells trains will go back to running all day, as they did pre-COVID). At the same time, air-conditioned trains are to be introduced on (at least some of) the Tunbridge Wells trains (i.e. not Networkers), so presumably there'll be another shift around.

Quite where this stock is coming from is a mystery - perhaps the 375s and 377s which berth at Grove Park between the peaks will be used, with the Networkers relegated to peak time only?
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How far are 707s off getting toilets? They could probably do it if given these and route clearance, although not sure what those passengers will make of the seats. 376s don't have air con so they are out of contention. If 375/377s takeover, Networkers will have to go onto one of their routes more.
 
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376022 refurbished.
I assume after tonight the 465s become the oldest mainline EMUs in London?
 
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brad465 said:
Is there going to be a press release for this soon?
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Wheelspinz said:
Yes 100% sold to them. No idea about space, possibly might go somewhere else in the meantime if no space currently?
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400 series preservation group has announced it'll be the custodian for 466 043.
CLASS 466 NETWORKER PRESERVED

In association with Angel Trains, East Kent Railway Trust and the 400 Series Preservation Group, we are delighted to announce the preservation of 466043.
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Representatives from all 3 organisations have worked tirelessly over the past few months to ensure one of these units secured its place in railway history for future generations.
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466043 was generously donated to the East Kent Railway Trust by Angel Trains in January and was selected as not only the final built unit in the fleet, but more importantly being in the best condition with only 500 miles accumulated on its running gear post C4 overhaul.
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The 400 Series Preservation Group will act as custodians of the unit going forward, with sole responsibility for its care and maintenance alongside their varied fleet of Class 313, Class 508 and slam-door vehicles including the last surviving Class 421/8 unit.
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The unit was collected from Ely this week and will be placed into temporary storage alongside 313201 until expansion plans have been addressed at the East Kent Railway site in Shepherdswell, after which it is hoped it will be available for visitors and enthusiasts to enjoy.
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We’d like to express our gratitude to the staff at Angel Trains who have been nothing but helpful to ensure the entire process concluded smoothly.
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If you'd like to donate to help cover the significant cost of our work to preserve this train (we have spent £7000 already!), then please head over to http://400series.co.uk and hit the "Donate" button on the main page.
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ponponjo said:
Laura Trott (MP for Sevenoaks) has posted on Facebook that from the December 2026 timetable change, Sevenoaks will return to 6 fast tph to London all day (presumably meaning the Charing X - Tunbridge Wells trains will go back to running all day, as they did pre-COVID). At the same time, air-conditioned trains are to be introduced on (at least some of) the Tunbridge Wells trains (i.e. not Networkers), so presumably there'll be another shift around.

Quite where this stock is coming from is a mystery - perhaps the 375s and 377s which berth at Grove Park between the peaks will be used, with the Networkers relegated to peak time only?
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i think the truth has been stretched there a bit, i reckon its the Hastings services that run as 12 car are splitting portions at Tunbridge Wells and they are running some of the off peak returning 2H services as 4 car 375s to then be joined up again to the Hastings services in the PM.

The Networkers that operate early are probably swapping out to Slade Green for maintenance between the peaks
 
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Krystal said:
Half a unit*
One carriage went to Kingsbury on the 17th while another one is going to the EKR. So it'll almost definitely be a static artifact there.
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Not so, i have seen a post by a person that works at EKR they have both vehicles.
 

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465921at Booths rotherham is no longer visible by the passing road so whether it's been cut or moved to the unviewable area far from the road I don't know.
 
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