Cryptic clues = station name

[Seacook]

Bedpan, Welshman

You have both been diverted by my misdirection. When writing a cryptic clue "you need not mean what you say, but you must say what you mean". There must be a way of reading the clue that indicates what you need to do to find the answer. On the other hand if you go off at a tangent by thinking the clue means something else, that is legitimate misdirection.

Amd now a hint of sorts. If this were a crossword clue, it would need to have a definition of the answer which we already know is a railway station. So using 'stop' to mean station, the clue might appear as Stop lake bird flying around (8).

Needless to say, the answer is not one of those suggested so far. It doesn't include cob or pen either.

 

[Welshman]

Birkdale?

 

[Seacook]

Birkdale?

Yes!

Anagram of 'lake bird' with 'flying around' as the anagram indicator (and because it reinforces the idea that some sort of bird is involved).

Over to you.

 

[Welshman]

OK.

Noah upgraded?

 

[Seacook]

OK.

Noah upgraded?

OK, first thoughts. Could be Newark, but which one, Castle or North Gate?

[flips imaginary coin with castles on both sides]

Newark Castle

Incidentally, if anyone thinks any of my clues are unsound and can suggest improvements, please say so - constructive criticism is always welcome and I firmly believe that the better the clues the more we will enjoy the game.

 

[Welshman]

I didn't get as far as deciding whether Castle or North Gate and am happy to accept either. So, well done. Over to you.

 

[Seacook]

Old Testament scandal?

 

[Welshman]

Bathgate?

David had an affair with Bathsheba, murdering Uriah in the process.
Modern habit of adding "gate" to end of any scandal, eg Watergate.

 

[Seacook]

Bathgate?

David had an affair with Bathsheba, murdering Uriah in the process.
Modern habit of adding "gate" to end of any scandal, eg Watergate.

No, it's not Bathgate

 

[Eagle]

Gotta be Moses Gate.

Next:

"Stand-in's going to arrive."

 

[Seacook]

Gotta be Moses Gate.

Next:

"Stand-in's going to arrive."

Absolutely. Moses Gate it is.

[5 minutes later]

Yours is presumably Templecombe

If so,

James gets back to the point

 

[Bedpan]

Absolutely. Moses Gate it is.

[5 minutes later]

Yours is presumably Templecombe

If so,

James gets back to the point

Sorry to sound thick, but I can't for the life of me see how you have got Templecombe (assuming that it is the right answer).

Without trying to appear even thicker, is the answer to yours Maesteg?

 

[Seacook]

Sorry to sound thick, but I can't for the life of me see how you have got Templecombe (assuming that it is the right answer).

Without trying to appear even thicker, is the answer to yours Maesteg?

"Stand-in's going to arrive."

Stand-in = temp
's going to = 'll (will)
arrive = come

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If it's any consolation I don't understand how you got to Maesteg from my clue. It's not the station I'm thinking of.

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As soon as I had posted this, I realised what you were thinking - Mae West (compass point) + 'gets' backwards. It does not quite fit the clue, though - 'James' would be superfluous, and 'point' leads to West not Mae - it would have to be Miss West or West (or, more controversially, Miss W), or even 'little chickadee'.

 

[Bedpan]

Templecombe - ahhh. So logical when its explained!

Maesteg - no,that wasn't why I chose it at all! It was because Maesteg is an anagram of "James gets" without the J at the front and the s at the end. I was thinking that the point was something to separate the J from the rest. So if "James" is "Js" or perhaps just "J." and you go back to the point (ie full stop) after J, and start the anagram from there, and also omitting the last "s" then you get Maesteg. (Or equally an anagram of "James gets" omitting the "Js" , ie "ame gets"

 

[Seacook]

Templecombe - ahhh. So logical when its explained!

Maesteg - no,that wasn't why I chose it at all! It was because Maesteg is an anagram of "James gets" without the J at the front and the s at the end. I was thinking that the point was something to separate the J from the rest. So if "James" is "Js" or perhaps just "J." and you go back to the point (ie full stop) after J, and start the anagram from there, and also omitting the last "s" then you get Maesteg. (Or equally an anagram of "James gets" omitting the "Js" , ie "ame gets"

Ingenious! Though I would not be happy with a clue that does not indicate the topping and tailing properly - something like 'losing his head makes James get befuddled' (no extra s to ignore and an anagram indicator - not a very elegant clue though).

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Late thought: a better clue for Maesteg could be "steam engineering for example".

I try to provide a bit of variety - two anagrams in a row is unlikely (but not impossible).

 

[Bedpan]

Reddish North?

 

[Seacook]

Reddish North?

No not Reddish North.

Nothing after two days so I'll say that James is not a forename in the clue.

 

[Bedpan]

Not James the reddish engine then!!

 

[Seacook]

Two more days have passed, so it's time for another hint.

The station name is one word. Carry on thinking.

 

[Bedpan]

And so it must be Diss!

Next clue, assuming I'm right .........

Where Gomshall's lost other half turned up?

(But I warn you I've never been good at crosswords so I hope that this clue is better than my last effort!)

 

[Seacook]

And so it must be Diss!

Next clue, assuming I'm right .........

Where Gomshall's lost other half turned up?

(But I warn you I've never been good at crosswords so I hope that this clue is better than my last effort!)

Diss is correct, as you would expect.

Yours could be Esher after I found out Gomshall station's former name.

 

[Bedpan]

Very true, that's the right answer!

 

[Seacook]

The next one is:

Found in expert hands

Two days gone with no answers, so it's time for a hint: do not worry too much about what the words in the clkue actually mean.

 

[plymothian]

Perth

 

[Seacook]

Perth

Correct. "found in expert hands".

Your turn, plymothian.

 

[plymothian]

Vehicle bears no resemblance, no mistake we hear in the middle

 

[Bedpan]

Could it be Ford?

 

[plymothian]

Not Ford

 

[hmp455]

Vauxhall?

 

[plymothian]

not vauxhall either