Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[liamf656]

Only 2 810s out today (006 + 012), any reasons for the 3rd one not making an appearance?

They are looking at getting an 810 out for 1C47 onwards. No guarantees though

 

[Railperf]

Am i right in thinking that this was the first week for a while where ghe 810s fulfilled all their monday to friday diagrams without any major delays or cancellations?
Today seems to be the first day with an issue.

 

[43074]

Agreed. Pointy noses on the 810s aside, I feel that EMR’s IC service has been moving more and more towards a glorified regional express service.

MML intercity services are more of a regional express these days though - plenty use them just for short hops between Leicester and Derby/Nottingham, Derby and Sheffield, and even the London journeys are arguably more comparable to parts of the Southern third rail network (e.g. Southampton to London) than services on the East or West Coast Main Lines. GWR Cardiff or Bristol to London services are effectively glorified Regional services too.

 

[QSK19]

MML intercity services are more of a regional express these days though - plenty use them just for short hops between Leicester and Derby/Nottingham, Derby and Sheffield, and even the London journeys are arguably more comparable to parts of the Southern third rail network (e.g. Southampton to London) than services on the East or West Coast Main Lines. GWR Cardiff or Bristol to London services are effectively glorified Regional services too.

A real shame really. I mean, don’t get me wrong, the main thing is to get from A to B efficiently regardless of train spec or comfort - as much as I and others despair at the poor condition of the 222s or 3+2 seating on the 360s, the main thing is they get us to the destination. But, as I’ve said before, the spec of train should match the level of fare paid - IC fares command an IC level of service, regardless of whether the journey is 5 minutes or 5 hours.

 

[720144]

810014’s first ever appearance on rtt today, will work 3A23 Etches park to Beeston sidings on test.

 

[liamf656]

810014 today:

Realtime Trains | 1D66 1805 St Pancras International to Nottingham | 09/06/2026

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Should be in passenger service imminently

 

[superkev]

810014’s first ever appearance on rtt today, will work 3A23 Etches park to Beeston sidings on test.

Like other new trains do the 810s have to run so many miles on test (was it 1000) before accepatance.
K

 

[Pippy1505]

810014’s first ever appearance on rtt today, will work 3A23 Etches park to Beeston sidings on test.

Like other new trains do the 810s have to run so many miles on test (was it 1000) before accepatance.
K

that has already been carried out by GBRF before delivery to EMR

 

[DannyMich2018]

810014 today:

Realtime Trains | 1D66 1805 St Pancras International to Nottingham | 09/06/2026

Real-time train running information for 1D66 1805 departure from St Pancras International to Nottingham on 09/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Should be in passenger service imminently

Fantastic. With as stated on the 810 diagrams thread 4th diagram starting next week that be 6 passenger accepted units to cover 4 diagrams. Any news on 810015 delivery? Many thanks.

 

[liamf656]

Fantastic. With as stated on the 810 diagrams thread 4th diagram starting next week that be 6 passenger accepted units to cover 4 diagrams. Any news on 810015 delivery? Many thanks.

No date of delivery yet but I'd expect it to arrive in the next week or two

 

[Merle Haggard]

Fantastic. With as stated on the 810 diagrams thread 4th diagram starting next week that be 6 passenger accepted units to cover 4 diagrams. Any news on 810015 delivery? Many thanks.

As a question generally - I don't expect that you'll know - but will this displace a 222 off-lease, and if so, which one? It interests me whether they'll just go off lease in numerical order - as 222001-4 did - or whether they get rid of the mis-formed ones such as 222103/4 (which have a DMF,MF and MC, declassified) or 222006 (with a part-declassified MF instead of an MC) first. But 222007s continued absence might be a clue...

 

[liamf656]

As a question generally - I don't expect that you'll know - but will this displace a 222 off-lease, and if so, which one? It interests me whether they'll just go off lease in numerical order - as 222001-4 did - or whether they get rid of the mis-formed ones such as 222103/4 (which have a DMF,MF and MC, declassified) or 222006 (with a part-declassified MF instead of an MC) first. But 222007s continued absence might be a clue...

The 222s will be leaving in near enough numerical order with 006 next to go (not just yet though which is promising for diagram coverage) however I have heard internal rumours that 101-104 may be fast tracked out of the company as they are non-standard (no guarantees though)

As for 007 the repairs from when it sat down a few weeks ago are ongoing. I reckon it'll re-enter service with EMR once fixed

 

[Merle Haggard]

The 222s will be leaving in near enough numerical order with 006 next to go (not just yet though which is promising for diagram coverage) however I have heard internal rumours that 101-104 may be fast tracked out of the company as they are non-standard (no guarantees though)

As for 007 the repairs from when it sat down a few weeks ago are ongoing. I reckon it'll re-enter service with EMR once fixed

Thanks. - 222007 seems to be following the same course as 222002 which spent a long time waiting repairs but re-emerged (after one false start) for (what I remember as) a final few weeks service.

Presumably the smaller first accommodation in the 222/1s has always handicapped the reservation system as I don't think that they had separate diagrams. Similar reservation problems with the part-declass. MFs

 

[720144]

810014 today:

Realtime Trains | 1D66 1805 St Pancras International to Nottingham | 09/06/2026

Real-time train running information for 1D66 1805 departure from St Pancras International to Nottingham on 09/06/2026. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Should be in passenger service imminently

014 officially makes it’s passenger service debut today. That’s 06/33 accepted.

 

[1D54]

014 officially makes it’s passenger service debut today. That’s 06/33 accepted.

1B07 - 05:49 NOT-STP.

 

[WesternLancer]

The repeated door and disabled toilet problems being reported on here seem to have declined recently.

Have these been resolved somewhat?

 

[liamf656]

Just a quick summary of which 810s we have, when they arrived and their debuts in service, for the benefit of those keeping track

Unit	Delivery date	Debut in service	First service
810006	27/10/25	04/12/25	1C17
810008	30/07/25	Not in service	Training unit
810009	11/08/25	Not in service	Training unit
810010	05/11/25	03/12/25	1C17
810011	15/12/25	05/01/26	1C17
810012	29/11/25	12/12/25	1B07
810013	20/12/25	14/01/26	1C17
810014	27/02/26	11/03/26	1B07

 

[Spartacus]

The repeated door and disabled toilet problems being reported on here seem to have declined recently.

Have these been resolved somewhat?

I know there was one swapped for a 222 at Derby yesterday due to an internal door issue, but don't know which.

 

[liamf656]

I know there was one swapped for a 22 at Derby yesterday due to an internal door issue, but don't know which.

That was 810006, which is back in service today

 

[WesternLancer]

I know there was one swapped for a 222 at Derby yesterday due to an internal door issue, but don't know which.

Thanks. Sounds like not totally resolved yet then. Hope it will be before long. Must be frustrating for all involved- suppliers and crews etc.

 

[DerbySplitter]

The repeated door and disabled toilet problems being reported on here seem to have declined recently.

Have these been resolved somewhat?

I caught the 14.32 from Derby yesterday (810012) and two of the toilets were out of order. It was a long schlep from the front of the train to find a working one in first class.

Caught 810010 home at 22.32 which was fine in our carriage.

They are nice enough trains, you can still smell the new carpet, but I don't think the seats are very comfortable. Very much remind me of Ryanair lol.

I also think they're noisy. Not so much the engines but the air conditioning or air circulation units in the carriages are so loud.

 

[duffield]

That was 810006, which is back in service today

I get the impression that 810006 has been the most troublesome unit so far, it seems to have got about as many faults mentioned as all the other units put together! Maybe this is a false impression but I feel like this unit is one to avoid!

 

[midland1]

I caught the 14.32 from Derby yesterday (810012) and two of the toilets were out of order. It was a long schlep from the front of the train to find a working one in first class.

Caught 810010 home at 22.32 which was fine in our carriage.

They are nice enough trains, you can still smell the new carpet, but I don't think the seats are very comfortable. Very much remind me of Ryanair lol.

I also think they're noisy. Not so much the engines but the air conditioning or air circulation units in the carriages are so loud.

My one trip on a 810 the air con was so noisy like having a vac. cleaner over your head !

 

[liamf656]

I get the impression that 810006 has been the most troublesome unit so far, it seems to have got about as many faults mentioned as all the other units put together! Maybe this is a false impression but I feel like this unit is one to avoid!

Just to give your point a different perspective, 006 is the highest mileage unit with the most passenger workings under its belt so maybe it's simply a case of its faults drawing more attention from the general public. I'd suggest that it must be a good one if it's trusted to work more than the other units, but that's only my opinion

On the contrary, 011 is the lowest mileage unit. We as a forum don't know why, maybe it's a reliabity issue or they're using it for other needs, but any issues it develops, will most likely have been spotted and fixed on depot without the public even noticing

 

[FrontSideBus]

My one trip on a 810 the air con was so noisy like having a vac. cleaner over your head !

I find wind noise when at speed from the roof of some coaches on other 80* versions to be quite intrusive, how are these?

 

[duffield]

Just to give your point a different perspective, 006 is the highest mileage unit with the most passenger workings under its belt so maybe it's simply a case of its faults drawing more attention from the general public. I'd suggest that it must be a good one if it's trusted to work more than the other units, but that's only my opinion
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Good point. Maybe that explains it.

 

[810013]

The repeated door and disabled toilet problems being reported on here seem to have declined recently.

Have these been resolved somewhat?

006 accessible toilet was out few days ago coach A i believe

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810014 Passing Tapton Jn on 1F15 STP-SHF earlier

 

[720144]

1B07 - 05:49 NOT-STP.

Next it’s a few week’s wait for 015 followed by that 016.

Looks like 014 is having a successful first day in service, no reported faults have occurred yet.

 

[liamf656]

Path is in for 810015 to be delivered to Etches Park on Friday (13/03/26)

Not heard much on the progress of 016 but I'd imagine that'll be not far behind

 

[AndrewJM70]

Looks like they are starting to arrive thick and fast. I am assuming that any issues they encounter and solve with the sets in service are also put right in the sets about to be delivered?