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In any case I don't believe the TOCs are required to accept American Express
They are obliged to accept Visa, Mastercard and American Express cards, by some means or other, because National Rail Enquiries says they do.

In any case I don't believe the TOCs are required to accept American Express, I know TPE for example explicitly say they don't (in their bizarre "exercepts from the NRCoT" posters that they display on their trains)
That sign referred to Electron cards which won't have been seen on British issued cards for a while.

Yes it is.

For example, check on the forum's site.
Isn't that just Raileasy calling their bluff? Nowhere else I've seen offers it.
 

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Isn't that just Raileasy calling their bluff? Nowhere else I've seen offers it.

Unsure.

But I've used e-tickets from Raileasy on countless ScotRail services and no ticket checker has ever said anything about the ticket format I presented (saved in Google Wallet).
 

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Unsure.

But I've used e-tickets from Raileasy on countless ScotRail services and no ticket checker has ever said anything about the ticket format I presented (saved in Google Wallet).
They wouldn't do I don't think. As noted above it's hard to see any actual issues.
 

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Trainline based apps still do but I think the rest have disabled mtickets. Hence why they'll issue Flexi Seasons as etickets, even though you're not supposed to do that.
Flexi Seasons should be issued as sTickets, rather than e-tickets. Functionally they're similar to an m-ticket in that they can only be displayed in app, but the barcode is regenerated every so often.
 

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Flexi Seasons should be issued as sTickets, rather than e-tickets. Functionally they're similar to an m-ticket in that they can only be displayed in app, but the barcode is regenerated every so often.
Indeed. That's certainly not what's happening in practice. The PDFs I've got definitely do not have regenerating barcodes.
 

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Flexi Seasons should be issued as sTickets, rather than e-tickets. Functionally they're similar to an m-ticket in that they can only be displayed in app, but the barcode is regenerated every so often.
Flexi Seasons were originally available as eTickets, before the sTicket lobbying got that nonsense continued, and I suspect many still are. It's still allowed by the standard as far as I know
 

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Flexi Seasons were originally available as eTickets, before the sTicket lobbying got that nonsense continued, and I suspect many still are. It's still allowed by the standard as far as I know
Even some normal season tickets were available as eticket from a ticket office back in the day. I've got one somewhere issued by a Virgin Trains ticket office.
 

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Luton Airport sells these awful white tickets too. The GA/WMR variant is much better on thicker card and with National rail logos on the back.

These monstrosities must be easy to fake and half the time don’t even work the gates at Luton Airport Parkway. On the last occasion my non enthusiast friend summed up the experience perfectly ‘what a load of low quality crap’
 

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Glasgow Queen Street has one of these machines too - though it was out of service when I was there on Friday. It's outside the main booking office, next to three standard S&B machines.
 

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. That's certainly not what's happening in practice. The PDFs I've got definitely do not have regenerating barcodes.
Have you tried printing them? Maybe they'll regenerate automatically then :D
 

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These monstrosities must be easy to fake and half the time don’t even work the gates at Luton Airport Parkway. On the last occasion my non enthusiast friend summed up the experience perfectly ‘what a load of low quality crap’
The tickets that are issued from TPE's kiosks are similarly awful. The paper quality is terrible and the printing quality is terrible (the latter caused by the former, I suspect). First time I got one from the machines at Manchester Airport I thought the machine had malfunctioned it was so bad.

Hard to fake though, because of the QR code.
 

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How does the "flexi" nature of it work when issued as a PDF e-ticket? Do you just download one for each day you want to use, then they stop being issued when you run out of days?
Essentially yes, at least that how the LNER eTicket flexis work (or did work)

I'd ask how that's standards compliant, but it's not Trip's fault (for a change!) if TOCs haven't disabled e-ticket fulfilment of Flexi Seasons in favour of sTicket.
It's a good thing they haven't! eTickets are far superior to sTickets
 

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You have a Flexi Season on a PDF?
Yes

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How does the "flexi" nature of it work when issued as a PDF e-ticket? Do you just download one for each day you want to use, then they stop being issued when you run out of days?
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I'd ask how that's standards compliant, but it's not Trip's fault (for a change!) if TOCs haven't disabled e-ticket fulfilment of Flexi Seasons in favour of sTicket.
Presumably LNER and others do it because they can't do mtickets.
 

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Essentially yes, at least that how the LNER eTicket flexis work (or did work)


It's a good thing they haven't! eTickets are far superior to sTickets
You can't print a LNER Flexi Season eTicket though

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Presumably LNER and others do it because they can't do mtickets.
Wait a couple of days and see what happens (Not mTickets)
 
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