tram21
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This diagram should be an 810 tomorrow, along with a Sheffield diagram too but I don't have the exact timings!
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AndrewJM70
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Thanks @liamf656 and @InTheEastMids
Diagrams 13/12/25 - These are different to usual due to diverts up the Erewash, meaning 1F40 and 1C68 will not call at Derby. @AndrewJM70 @tram21 hope this answers your questions
DY701 - 810006
5B25 0800 XEP NOT 0839
1B25 0850 NOT STP 1027
1D31 1105 STP NOT 1251
1B52 1312 NOT STP 1454
1D53 1535 STP NOT 1709
1B79 1750 NOT STP 1927
1D96 2005 STP NOT 2148
5D96 2211 NOT XEP 2250
DY702 - 810010
5B10 0449 XEP NOT 0549
1B10 0612 NOT STP 0754
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1009
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1459
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1739
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1949
5Z66 1958 NOT XEP 2028
The rest of the diagram will be 222004
DY701 - 810006
5B25 0800 XEP NOT 0839
1B25 0850 NOT STP 1027
1D31 1105 STP NOT 1251
1B52 1312 NOT STP 1454
1D53 1535 STP NOT 1709
1B79 1750 NOT STP 1927
1D96 2005 STP NOT 2148
5D96 2211 NOT XEP 2250
DY702 - 810010
5B10 0449 XEP NOT 0549
1B10 0612 NOT STP 0754
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1009
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1459
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1739
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1949
5Z66 1958 NOT XEP 2028
The rest of the diagram will be 222004
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tram21
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Will this be the first time a class 810 has run via Erewash in passenger service?
Yes that's correct
Peter Mugridge
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810 010 is booked for the 15.02 St Pancras - Sheffield.
Realtime Trains | 1F24 1502 St Pancras International to Sheffield | 14/12/2025
Real-time train running information for 1F24 1502 departure from St Pancras International to Sheffield on 14/12/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
www.realtimetrains.co.uk
Saturday 20/12/25. Allocations not yet released
DY701
5B25 0800 XEP NOT 0839
1B25 0850 NOT STP 1027
1D31 1105 STP NOT 1251
1B52 1312 NOT STP 1454
1D53 1535 STP NOT 1709
1B79 1750 NOT STP 1927
1D96 2005 STP NOT 2148
5D96 2211 NOT XEP 2250
DY702
5B10 0449 XEP NOT 0549
1B10 0612 NOT STP 0754
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1009
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1459
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1739
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1949
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2154
1F85 2215 STP DBY 2355
5F85 0008 DBY XEP 0022
DY701
5B25 0800 XEP NOT 0839
1B25 0850 NOT STP 1027
1D31 1105 STP NOT 1251
1B52 1312 NOT STP 1454
1D53 1535 STP NOT 1709
1B79 1750 NOT STP 1927
1D96 2005 STP NOT 2148
5D96 2211 NOT XEP 2250
DY702
5B10 0449 XEP NOT 0549
1B10 0612 NOT STP 0754
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1009
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1459
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1739
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1949
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2154
1F85 2215 STP DBY 2355
5F85 0008 DBY XEP 0022
Peter Mugridge
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The first of those appears to be 222 020 and the second 222 003, unfortunately, according to RTT.
It looks like 810 012 did do the first part of DY702, though.
THC
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Good morning. Are there any 810s out today? I'm travelling from London to Nottingham later and will flex if I can catch one. Thanks in advance.
THC
THC
eastwestdivide
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810010 showing on RTT allocated to the 1026 Derby-Nottingham etc
810012 ditto for the 1015 Leicester to Sheffield etc
(found by putting the numbers into RTT’s search box)
810012 ditto for the 1015 Leicester to Sheffield etc
(found by putting the numbers into RTT’s search box)
THC
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I was on 1B25, which was the 0850 out of Nottingham, the unit took 3/4 minutes at all 3 stops so wondered if the unit had an issue preventing quicker dispatches at all 3 stations.
Noticed it went empty to Etches Park an hour later.
Am I right in thinking that no 810 has yet operated a passenger service which stops south of Kettering? Clearly the opportunities are limited, but they are more abundant on a Sunday morning.
The practical issue would appear to be that the early Sunday services are booked for 10-car formations, other than 1D03 0900 St Pancras International to Nottingham which is a 7-car stabled at Cricklewood.
The practical issue would appear to be that the early Sunday services are booked for 10-car formations, other than 1D03 0900 St Pancras International to Nottingham which is a 7-car stabled at Cricklewood.
DY02 has 810012 today, currently on 10:35 Sheffield- St P.
According to RTT, 810010 started the other diagram with 07:00 from Sheffield, but only got to Chesterfield. Terminated there due to a problem with onboard safety system, then empty to Etches Park. RTT shows the diagram restarting from Derby with the 13:10 to Sheffield.
According to RTT, 810010 started the other diagram with 07:00 from Sheffield, but only got to Chesterfield. Terminated there due to a problem with onboard safety system, then empty to Etches Park. RTT shows the diagram restarting from Derby with the 13:10 to Sheffield.
99009
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I'm trying to understand the current status of diagrams booked for an 810 and I also think it would be helpful to get all the current diagrams in one place. From various posts on here, am I correct in thinking that currently the diagrams below are the ones that are booked 810 and that there are 2 Mon-Fri diagrams, 2 on a Saturday and 2 on a Sunday?
Monday - Friday: (from page 177 of the other topic)
DY701
5C17 0522 XEP SHF 0631
1C17 0700 SHF STP 0909
5C17 0923 STP CRI 0943
5F32 1103 CRI STP 1120
1F32 1132 STP SHF 1342
1C59 1400 SHF STP 1609
5D61 1620 STP STP 1650
1D61 1705 STP NOT 1855
1B88 1913 NOT STP 2054
1F82 2132 STP SHF 2341
5F82 2356 SHF XEP 0114
DY702
5B07 0445 XEP NOT 0520
1B07 0549 NOT STP 0735
1F15 0803 STP SHF 1001
1C38 1037 SHF STP 1238
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1505
1C68 1537 SHF STP 1740
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1956
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2156
1F85 2232 STP SHF 0039
5F85 0055 SHF XEP 0127
Saturday: (from post #69 above)
DY701
5B25 0800 XEP NOT 0839
1B25 0850 NOT STP 1027
1D31 1105 STP NOT 1251
1B52 1312 NOT STP 1454
1D53 1535 STP NOT 1709
1B79 1750 NOT STP 1927
1D96 2005 STP NOT 2148
5D96 2211 NOT XEP 2250
DY702
5B10 0449 XEP NOT 0549
1B10 0612 NOT STP 0754
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1009
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1459
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1739
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1949
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2154
1F85 2215 STP DBY 2355
5F85 0008 DBY XEP 0022
Sunday:
???? One diagram seems to start with 5F01 Etches Park - Leciester, 1F01 Leicester - Sheffield and 1C16 Sheffield - St Pancras. These were worked by 810006 today and 810012 last Sunday.
Monday - Friday: (from page 177 of the other topic)
DY701
5C17 0522 XEP SHF 0631
1C17 0700 SHF STP 0909
5C17 0923 STP CRI 0943
5F32 1103 CRI STP 1120
1F32 1132 STP SHF 1342
1C59 1400 SHF STP 1609
5D61 1620 STP STP 1650
1D61 1705 STP NOT 1855
1B88 1913 NOT STP 2054
1F82 2132 STP SHF 2341
5F82 2356 SHF XEP 0114
DY702
5B07 0445 XEP NOT 0520
1B07 0549 NOT STP 0735
1F15 0803 STP SHF 1001
1C38 1037 SHF STP 1238
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1505
1C68 1537 SHF STP 1740
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1956
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2156
1F85 2232 STP SHF 0039
5F85 0055 SHF XEP 0127
Saturday: (from post #69 above)
DY701
5B25 0800 XEP NOT 0839
1B25 0850 NOT STP 1027
1D31 1105 STP NOT 1251
1B52 1312 NOT STP 1454
1D53 1535 STP NOT 1709
1B79 1750 NOT STP 1927
1D96 2005 STP NOT 2148
5D96 2211 NOT XEP 2250
DY702
5B10 0449 XEP NOT 0549
1B10 0612 NOT STP 0754
1D18 0835 STP NOT 1009
1B37 1050 NOT STP 1224
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1459
1C68 1535 SHF STP 1739
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1949
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2154
1F85 2215 STP DBY 2355
5F85 0008 DBY XEP 0022
Sunday:
???? One diagram seems to start with 5F01 Etches Park - Leciester, 1F01 Leicester - Sheffield and 1C16 Sheffield - St Pancras. These were worked by 810006 today and 810012 last Sunday.
Sunday
DY702
5B12 1011 XEP NOT 1043
1B12 1110 NOT STP 1256
1F24 1502 STP SHF 1724
1C48 1751 SHF STP 2009
1D56 2035 STP NOT 2212
5D56 2227 NOT XEP 2301
DY703
5F01 0918 XEP LEI 0959
1F01 1015 LEI SHF 1125
1C16 1152 SHF STP 1407
1F29 1602 STP SHF 1803
5F26 1829 SHF XEP 1858
AndrewJM70
Member
Hopefully a third and fourth diagram in January?
99009
Member
Thank you very much for this and for your other posts, we now have a very nice summary of the current situation.
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Monday 29th December 2025 as of 02:00 (therefore subject to change):
DY701 allox 810011 (making its passenger debut on 1C17)
DY702 allox 810010
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810011 swapped to 012 before start of service
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810010 and 810012 booked in service 30/12/25
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WesternLancer
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Not the most critical of matters but I wondered if there is a particular reason why an image of the 810 does not appear at the top of the RTT page for a service when operated by 810 as compared with all other EMR services that show the unit concerned? (as per post #68 by @Peter Mugridge helpfully showing the current presentational style which of course resolves the issue)
Also - thanks to all for keeping this thread helpfully updated with the state of play!
Also - thanks to all for keeping this thread helpfully updated with the state of play!
I saw it mentioned on tbe RTT thread and it was said that it's being worked on and should be available imminently
WesternLancer
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Thanks - great - I did suspect they were on the case! It's a great feature.
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Just to ask - is this a regular scheduled intended Sunday 810 diagram? (of course subject to usual changes for engineering work etc)
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Yes except 5B12 has since been replaced with 2A56 so the 810 now works in service from Derby to Nottingham
WesternLancer
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Many thanks
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Anyone know what times 810 s might be operating tomorrow Sunday?
As per Sunday diagram posted up thread ie post 78 or potentially something else?
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Tomorrow is same as above, no alterations
WesternLancer
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Many thanks. Helpful to know as I can make use of one if things go to plan.
Does that include the diagram starting at Leicester
duffield
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When I look in RTT at present it seems like all the 810 services show up as "VAR" in the STP column, which makes it easy to identify them without consulting the diagrams. I realise of course that other non-810 services could show up as "VAR" for other reasons, but is it true that every 810 service is currently shown as "VAR"? If so I wonder how long this will continue, as it's quite useful!
Bletchleyite
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You can also identify them in the "simple" view by them being listed as "East Midlands Railway" rather than "EMR Meridian". That also seems to be visible on the mobile version of the "detailed" view but not the PC one.