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trainmania100

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Very surprised to hear 71000 is on the tour today, despite a pending investigation. They must be fairly confident it wasn't a fault with the locomotive - eg the brakes- then, if they're happy to put it on a mainline charter so soon after the locomotive failed to stop.
 
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Harpo

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Very surprised to hear 71000 is on the tour today, despite a pending investigation. They must be fairly confident it wasn't a fault with the locomotive - eg the brakes- then, if they're happy to put it on a mainline charter so soon after the locomotive failed to stop.
No loco would be out if there were even the slightest doubt about it. Braking light locos is much trickier than braking a fully fitted train where the brakes of the train out-perform the loco’s.
 

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71000 failed but cause unknown some sources suggest AWS fault and others brake issue. 57311 hauled the tour back

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Tomorrow 61306 and 71000 will double head the return trip
 
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bleeder4

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Jesus. Just seen a video of 9/12 railtour flying into the Fareham curve way above 20.
That explains what the most recent Trip Advisor review meant then.

"Somewhere in the Southampton area something went drastically wrong. Not sure what the root cause was but, as a guess, the train went too fast round a bend or too fast through a points (route) change. The result was, the train jerked violently to the left resulting in all the wine glasses stored on open shelves at the end of the carriage were thrown out and smashed on the floor along with most of the content of every ones tables. The SD staff came to check that no passengers were hurt and set about clearing up the mess."
 

Vinyl_Lap

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I heard about this, but I have only just seen the video. Wow! That's crazy! I wonder what repercussions there will be for the driver or the company?
 

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Gosh! As one commenter pointed out, you can see sparks coming from the coaches and rear loco as they hit the curveo_O
Incredibly concerning, anyone who travels that route regularly will know you feel that curve in a Desiro at 20 let alone whichever speed that was. I think LSL are rather lucky in that the only thing it seems to come off is a lot of customers dinners and no doubt expensive wine and wine glasses (eg Morpeth springs to mind). As for speeding up through the station o_O
 
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The two reviews are quite shocking on TripAdvisor concerning this 9/12th tour. Several claiming that they believe the driver broke the PSR at the curve to make up time?? That hopefully isn't true but alarming if there is truly an element of timeliness that factored in.

I do wonder if the blowing of the horn to greet the Rail enthusiasts just before the PSR will be focused more than going back to what(if there was any) the route conductor was doing.
 

AidanCKY

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Wow that video is a bit scary, the way those carriages whip around the curve! Like a model train set!
 

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I think LSL are rather lucky in that the only thing it seems to come off is a lot of customers dinners and no doubt expensive wine and wine glasses (eg Morpeth springs to mind). As for speeding up through the station o_O
I've been a couple of overspeeds on curves throughout the years, the worse thing is you feel like the train is going to derail, you can feel the forces and wonder why it's still on the tracks.
Several claiming that they believe the driver broke the PSR at the curve to make up time?? That hopefully isn't true but alarming if there is truly an element of timeliness that factored in.
Very much doubt it.
 

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Does anyone habe any idea of how the tour is getting on? Seems like it has been stuck at Southall for an extended period, hopefully not an issue with Duke of Gloucester.
 

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Referring to earlier. What standard class coaches do Statesman use? I thought all the Statesman stock was first class aircons?
 
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Iskra

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Referring to earlier. What standard class coaches do Statesman use? I thought all the Statesman stock was first class aircons?
It’s just a (beautifully restored) buffet carriage with the seating in that carriage being standard. The seats are quite firm and over a bogie. Usually, it isn’t too much more expensive for first, so I would recommend first instead.
 
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Iskra

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Does anyone know what these moves are doing tomorrow? Seems to suggest something involving a 37…

0Z37 0835 Carlisle Upperby Tmd Lsl to Barrow Hill L.I.P.

0Z38 1540 Barrow Hill L.I.P. to Carlisle Upperby Tmd Lsl
 

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Does anyone know what these moves are doing tomorrow? Seems to suggest something involving a 37…

0Z37 0835 Carlisle Upperby Tmd Lsl to Barrow Hill L.I.P.

0Z38 1540 Barrow Hill L.I.P. to Carlisle Upperby Tmd Lsl

0Z37
37401 LSLO CARLSLTMD 090Z371D14 F BARRWHSD N
37409 LSLO CARLSLTMD 090Z371D14 F BARRWHSD N
57003 LSLO CARLSLTMD 090Z371D14 F BARRWHSD N

0Z38 unallocated at time of post

Dan

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Other LSL moves today

47810 LSLO CREWEGGUL 420Z471H14 F CREWE HS N

20096 LSLO ELGHARLTN 860Z592E14 F CREWE HS N
20107 LSLO ELGHARLTN 860Z592E14 F CREWE HS N
90002 LSLO ELGHARLTN 860Z592E14 U CREWE HS N

87002 LSLO CREWEGGUL 425Z901H14 E CRNFRSJN N

Dan
 

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