Trainman40083
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I must remember the 16.02.. Not likely to catch a later one.
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Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates
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soccermad
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Thanks
Trespass at Loughborough.
810012 is running its first passenger service today (12/12/25), on DY702 diagram
5B07 0445 XEP NOT 0520
1B07 0549 NOT STP 0735
1F15 0803 STP SHF 1001
1C38 1037 SHF STP 1238
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1505
1C68 1537 SHF STP 1740
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1956
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2156
1F85 2232 STP SHF 0039
5F85 0055 SHF XEP 0127
1B07 0549 NOT STP 0735
1F15 0803 STP SHF 1001
1C38 1037 SHF STP 1238
1F40 1302 STP SHF 1505
1C68 1537 SHF STP 1740
1D66 1805 STP NOT 1956
1B94 2012 NOT STP 2156
1F85 2232 STP SHF 0039
5F85 0055 SHF XEP 0127
810006 is on the other diagram AU701 which starts with 1C17
Not bad having 3 units accepted into service in over a week. Should have 011 being the 4th accepted soon.
011 hasn't arrived yet
Railperf
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Would the plan be to run a 3rd diagram once a fourth 'passenger ready' unit is accepted? Always leaving one in reserve?
Yes although no gen on when the third diagram starts yet
Trainman40083
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I am sure I've seen something that gave a date in January 2026.
Due to arrive Etches Park monday 15th
AndrewJM70
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This is great news. I am assuming a new unit will be arriving every two weeks or so? Do we know how many have been built so far?
There isn’t anything in RTT yet to that effect. There are daytime paths (which I assume to be for 810011 following on from its overnight testing this week) from Merchant Park Sidings to York, and from York back to Darlington on the morning of Monday 15th, but no further paths have yet appeared, whether to return again to Merchant Park or send it on to Etches Park.
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I’m not certain the rollout will be quite that rapid yet. I read somewhere (Moderm Railways?) that the aim was to have 5 in service (or 5 diagrams?) by the end of the first quarter of 2026. I also separately read that the delivery of 011/012/013 was being prioritised, presumably to meet that timescale, possibly also to cover the return of 222s. This is just what I have read and I don’t have any inside knowledge - no doubt somebody will set the record straight if I am wrong or plans have changed.
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That is pretty much spot on. 222003/004 leave us in the next month or so, so 810011/12/13 will cover for that making sure there is no shortfall. The majority of the 810s should arrive en masse as we go into summer 2026
Jutst noticed a comment from one of the Aurora implementation team replying to a comment about the reservation system.
They state that 'The reservation system does have the red, yellow, green system specified to Hitachi on the IEP project'.
I had seen some comments on here saying that the colours were not going to be used on the 810s.
They state that 'The reservation system does have the red, yellow, green system specified to Hitachi on the IEP project'.
I had seen some comments on here saying that the colours were not going to be used on the 810s.
It’s definitely been East Midlands Railway Aurora week with 810006 and 810010 let loose on an unsuspecting public. Unsuspecting public seemed generally pretty impressed. Here is set 006 arriving at… | Peter Kennan
It’s definitely been East Midlands Railway Aurora week with 810006 and 810010 let loose on an unsuspecting public. Unsuspecting public seemed generally pretty impressed. Here is set 006 arriving at Leicester on Thursday. A few more reflections. The on train automated announcements are clear...www.linkedin.com
QSK19
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At the second time of asking, the kids and I managed to reach Market Harborough this evening (on 810006) in order to experience the power changeover. Absolutely seamless, the only sign being the air con powering down for several seconds.
One thing that I did wonder on a separate note, though, is that when we arrived back in Loughborough, we saw 810012 (on 1B94) pass through the station even though it was scheduled to call there - it also skipped Beeston and East Midlands Parkway. Did it do this to catch up time or was there some sort or capacity limit?
One thing that I did wonder on a separate note, though, is that when we arrived back in Loughborough, we saw 810012 (on 1B94) pass through the station even though it was scheduled to call there - it also skipped Beeston and East Midlands Parkway. Did it do this to catch up time or was there some sort or capacity limit?
Looks like they ran it non stop Notts to Leicester to catch up time due to a previous delay
QSK19
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Many thanks. That does make sense seeing as, when we were waiting at Loughborough for 006 to arrive, we kept hearing announcements that 012 was delayed between Market Harborough and Leicester for an unspecified reason. That service was late to arrive into Nottingham, leading to a knock-on delay for its journey back to STP (and hence, as you say, non stop running between Nottingham and Leicester).
Kneedown
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Pantograph failing to register that it had lowered at the changeover point, requiring an unscheduled stop to examine, confirm lowered (it had) and seek authority to proceed. Believed to be a dodgy sensor somewhere.
Might have 013 arriving first thing January, not sure about 014-019, have seen a picture of 020 with all the coaches not yet connected together at newton.
810006 & 010 booked on today.
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Railperf
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So two Saturday diagrams today.
Bellecat
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Are there likely to be any running tomorrow?
Rode one of these yesterday - it was busy in first class. Ride quality a little better than the horrid GWR sets, but still not good enough for an intercity train. Strange electrical whine when on electric power. Seats are an improvement on the GWR/LNER crates in both classes, though the bar is very low, and I'd prefer them to be a bit better padded in first class as they are very firm.
On the plus side, the hosts (two of them!) were excellent and couldn't be more helpful. Successfully booted out a Senior railcard holder who pretended he didn't know he was in first class when challenged, despite having spoken to me on boarding about "how nice these trains were in first class". Good to see the irritating low floor in the end vehicles has been fixed outside the wheelchair space - someone actually understood that passengers like to look out of the window, even if the view is of Kettering.
I think, given the limitations of working with Hitachi units, whoever has specced the improvements did alright. These are the smartest units of the lot and the nose design is also superior.
On the plus side, the hosts (two of them!) were excellent and couldn't be more helpful. Successfully booted out a Senior railcard holder who pretended he didn't know he was in first class when challenged, despite having spoken to me on boarding about "how nice these trains were in first class". Good to see the irritating low floor in the end vehicles has been fixed outside the wheelchair space - someone actually understood that passengers like to look out of the window, even if the view is of Kettering.
I think, given the limitations of working with Hitachi units, whoever has specced the improvements did alright. These are the smartest units of the lot and the nose design is also superior.
TT-ONR-NRN
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How embarrassing for him. Delighted to hear it.
QSK19
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Many thanks for that - at least these things are being discovered now whilst in the introductory stages and then iron them out once fully bedded in.
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Forgot to ask in my reply: will this be deployed as a regular method to catch up time or was it done by exception?
The worry is that people will think that, any time there is a delay, there is no guarantee their train will make its scheduled call and they might have a long wait until the next one!
I remember once when a Lincoln-Leicester 170 skipped Attenborough and it would have been ages until the next scheduled call - to the point that, by going one stop in the opposite direction and coming back on myself, it saved half an hour.
tram21
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It does seem to being used more often by EMR to make up time. Its not a 'new tactic' but to avoid delays all day it is used quite a bit. Depends on the individual circumstances really.
Merle Haggard
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When the Nottingham stopper is running late it's usual to make it express to Nottingham from Leicester. Passengers for Loughborough and E.M.Parkway are advised to change to the immediately following Sheffield (which is also a stopper on the service pattern ). Beeston passengers are advised to stay on the train to Nottingham, and remain on it when it returns towards London, to travel to Beeston - the down 'stopper' forms the next up 'stopper'.
There's a strange detail with the 810 lavatories. On the 805s (for instance) the lavatories, when vacant, have the open and close buttons illuminated (yellow light). When they're occupied, these lights go out and a red 'Occupied' light appears above them. On the 810 (at least the one I travelled on) when occupied there's not only the red 'Occupied light' but the two door buttons below both change to red. This means that, in these circumstances, there are three red lights vertically; very similar to the display on, for example, a Pendolino when the toilet is out of order. Gives the impression it's not worth waiting.