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Great British Railways: Branding options?

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Seems like GBR is popping its head out at mainline stations (taken at Euston yesterday) regarding the frozen fares. Also a new graphic with some more colours - I like it!
 

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Seems like GBR is popping its head out at mainline stations (taken at Euston yesterday) regarding the frozen fares. Also a new graphic with some more colours - I like it!
You beat me too it. Also saw this at london bridge.!
 

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Why not just have one corporate livery, with GBR branding, I would favour something similar to the old NSE livery of Grey, Red with dark blue window edging,
 

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Well The Guardian reports it be officially unveiled at London Bridge tomorrow. Makes me suspect a Southeastern unit will be used, possibly one of the recently transferred 377/1s from Southern or maybe the first refurbished 376?

The press image though shows an Azuma, so I guess LNER might have one for the launch of their Veolcity timetable revamp next week (I'm sure the Government will want claim the credit of nationalisation for the capacity uplift).

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https://www.railadvent.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/GBR-Train-Livery.jpg

DfT press release also features the Azuma - https://www.gov.uk/government/news/...arrives-as-government-reforms-broken-railways
 

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Maybe this new Livery is why some of the 455's have been at Bournemouth getting work done in them for so long. :lol:

Although on a related note I wonder what the oldest piece of rolling stock to get put into this livery will be
 
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I assume there are going to be only a handful of liveried trains, akin to other special vinyls, as redoing every train is surely going to cost a fortune if done before they need doing. Likewise rebranding stations, with new paint (many things needing powder coating and not just a tin of Dulux slapped on something), signs (or vinyls over existing signs) and so on.

I would have thought for all the other trains, you just need something at each end - akin to the notices on the side of a London Bus as to who operates a service. Maybe a 'part of GB Railway' on each coast if you must.

People want to see actual improvements, not stuff that they'll associate with wasting money (as they would if a TOC did it).
 

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This, this, and this - the new Chiltern livery is really good. I was also going to suggest the Northern Rail 200 livery (158903), with a splash of white or red (and with needless graphics removed), which might also work.

Add a red curved sweep up after the dark blue on the current Northern livery and it'd look quite decent to be honest (the blue is already about right for the flag). Simple shapes work with brash colours.
 

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Add a red curved sweep up after the dark blue on the current Northern livery and it'd look quite decent to be honest (the blue is already about right for the flag). Simple shapes work with brash colours.
Absolutely, although I tend to preference a darker design much like ScotRail's with a bit of a flash. As much as TfW's branding package is awesome, there is just too much white for me but that is heavy personal opinion and I would much rather the train look ok and run reliabily and represent a new start than look horrible and run horrible.

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I was curious, so I inserted a shade of red in between the 158903 livery, and it really does not look that bad...

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Going to put this in here, as I think putting a shade of red inbetween what is on 158903 would also be a good option, and it would look really nice to have the GBR text/logo as one line within the dark blue sections.

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I had a try at applying this to something, so here it is
 
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I assume there are going to be only a handful of liveried trains, akin to other special vinyls, as redoing every train is surely going to cost a fortune if done before they need doing. Likewise rebranding stations, with new paint (many things needing powder coating and not just a tin of Dulux slapped on something), signs (or vinyls over existing signs) and so on.
Nah it will be done as a matter of urgency, regardless of cost. Because afterall Great English Railways is the 'railway owned by you'.
 

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Also, for fun, I wrapped the windows in a white bar; it looks like the back half is reminiscent of BR, while the front half is new. Either way, it is really not bad for what it was, about I dont know 20 minutes of time?

I dont know about the whole 'separation between Intercity and Local', part of me would not mind a fully unified livery across all sectors like ScotRail, but I would be open to an idea of having two separate liveries. However, obviously, the DfT has not made any mention of there being separate ones thus far. I think a livery featuring a full-length stripe, like the good old intercity days, would much better suit an intercity service if there was to be a separation of sorts. Even then, it has already been made in the form of the LNER's 91 livery, just tweak that as far as I am concerned.
 
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The DfT have registered trademarks for Rail Symbol 2 in dark blue, orange, purple and yellow, in addition to the usual red...

(links to the trade mark registration pages)

Along with a few oddities, including a RS2 version of the "Britain Runs On Rail" logo from a few years ago...
 

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The DfT have registered trademarks for Rail Symbol 2 in dark blue, orange, purple and yellow, in addition to the usual red...

(links to the trade mark registration pages)

Along with a few oddities, including a RS2 version of the "Britain Runs On Rail" logo from a few years ago...
I hope that is to just cover the bases and not something they are planning to spring on us down the line :rolleyes:

And frankly that multicoloured one can go in the bin, RS2 or not... <(
 

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Makes me suspect a Southeastern unit will be used
Logically it would make sense for SE to be the first TOC to rebrand, being the first one that's intergrated fully with Network Rail. The blue livery can be adapted as simple as revinyling the doors red, as seen here:

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Above: SE Blue
Both images: Pixel art rendition of a Class 375 DMSO vehicle
Below: GBR Transitional
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Logically it would make sense for SE to be the first TOC to rebrand, being the first one that's intergrated fully with Network Rail. The blue livery can be adapted as simple as revinyling the doors red, as seen here:

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Above: SE Blue
Both images: Pixel art rendition of a Class 375 DMSO vehicle
Below: GBR Transitional
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Looks kinda like stagecoach or first group with that base blue with red doors. There'll probably be extra graphics or vinyls added.

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Absolutely, although I tend to preference a darker design much like ScotRail's with a bit of a flash. As much as TfW's branding package is awesome, there is just too much white for me but that is heavy personal opinion and I would much rather the train look ok and run reliabily and represent a new start than look horrible and run horrible.

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Going to put this in here, as I think putting a shade of red inbetween what is on 158903 would also be a good option, and it would look really nice to have the GBR text/logo as one line within the dark blue sections.

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I had a try at applying this to something, so here it is
Yeah like that.

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Also, for fun, I wrapped the windows in a white bar; it looks like the back half is reminiscent of BR, while the front half is new. Either way, it is really not bad for what it was, about I dont know 20 minutes of time?

I dont know about the whole 'separation between Intercity and Local', part of me would not mind a fully unified livery across all sectors like ScotRail, but I would be open to an idea of having two separate liveries. However, obviously, the DfT has not made any mention of there being separate ones thus far. I think a livery featuring a full-length stripe, like the good old intercity days, would much better suit an intercity service if there was to be a separation of sorts. Even then, it has already been made in the form of the LNER's 91 livery, just tweak that as far as I am concerned.
Even better actually!
 
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