New National Rail Map - Very Wrong

[enginedin]

Disagree, the tube map isn't riddled with inconsistencies as this one is.

As others have said, the vast majority of the public just want a representation of the lines, not that they're accurate or would notice, or care about, the inconsistencies

 

[birchesgreen]

Map seems to imply that Cross Country services to Leicester and Derby stop at Adderley Park, could do with making the branch off a bit earlier.

 

[Railguy1]

The lines are not rendered at all on Safari on the iPad.

 

[gingerheid]

Every rail map I see makes me realise what a masterpiece the old SPT rail map of the Strathclyde area was. Nothing has ever mapped that Glasgow area close to as well since.

This one is pretty and quite geographically accurate. But it doesn't tell me what routes there are that use those lines, and that's one of the key things such a map could tell you...

 

[chrisjo]

Wishaw is totally missing, although the line splits off to serve it.

And if you put Wishaw in the search box it zooms in to where it ought to be!

 

[birchesgreen]

Bearley and Claverdon are listed as request stops, i don't think they are anymore though there is some confusion, some WMR trains still display that they are on the PIS.

 

[0161]

What an absolutely ghastly typeface they've used for this. It looks like some kind of childish cousin of Comic Sans.

Would it have been too much for them to have used RA2?

 

[alxndr]

Labels which are diagonally down and to the left also appear too far away from their dot. Sometimes isn’t clear at first glance which one they apply to.

 

[sh24]

What an absolutely ghastly typeface they've used for this. It looks like some kind of childish cousin of Comic Sans.

Would it have been too much for them to have used RA2?

I think it's the same typeface used for the National Rail logo. Agree it does look a bit Comic Sans...not good!

 

[Deepgreen]

Well it is the ‘Gateway to the South’, after all.

(Which might mean nothing to our younger members. )

I think the fainter 'blob' at Balham is for the Northern line rather than GatEx.

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More anomalies - Shepherd's Bush (LU Central line) is shown as Shepherds Bush (i.e. no apostrophe) on the NR map, while Shepherd's Bush Market is shown as Shepherd's Bush Market. To make things doubly confusing, though, the TfL pages have the opposite use of apostrophes!

 

[Buzby]

LNER doesn't go to Glasgow Central does it? The map says it does a limited service there.

It does indeed - I've even been on it! Very limited run through from Edinburgh to Central via Carstairs Jcn. Whilst I noted the connection between Queen Street to Buchanan Street Subway on the map, it also shows one from St Enoch Subway to Glasgow Central - that simply doesn't exist!

 

[ThirteenArches]

There's a new station on the Sheffield tram network - "Marlin Bridge".

 

[Segedunum]

It does indeed - I've even been on it! Very limited run through from Edinburgh to Central via Carstairs Jcn. Whilst I noted the connection between Queen Street to Buchanan Street Subway on the map, it also shows one from St Enoch Subway to Glasgow Central - that simply doesn't exist!

LNER doesn't run to Glasgow Central anymore. 1E06 0800 Edinburgh-Kings Cross was the former 0650 from Glasgow Central and 1S23 1530 Kings Cross-Edinburgh (1S25 1630 on Saturdays) was the previous through northbound working.

 

[87electric]

It does indeed - I've even been on it! Very limited run through from Edinburgh to Central via Carstairs Jcn. Whilst I noted the connection between Queen Street to Buchanan Street Subway on the map, it also shows one from St Enoch Subway to Glasgow Central - that simply doesn't exist!

I thought LNER withdrew its Glasgow service from the Dec 2024 timetable.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

There's a new station on the Sheffield tram network - "Marlin Bridge".

Which should, of course, just read 'Malin Bridge'. Open 30+ years?

 

[Buzby]

I thought LNER withdrew its Glasgow service from the Dec 2024 timetable

I had used their service last Xmas just after they dumped the London to Stirling service (which I also found convenient). With the new Stirling to London service starting next year, I suppose Lumo have seen the opportunity from Glasgow... even if LNER don't!

 

[duffield]

There's a new station on the Sheffield tram network - "Marlin Bridge".

Some good fishing to be had there, I've heard.

 

[barbette165]

Bearley and Claverdon are listed as request stops, i don't think they are anymore though there is some confusion, some WMR trains still display that they are on the PIS.

for about 18 months there was confusion because the public timetable and all public information suggested that they wer no longer request stops, but the Internal operational documentation still had them as request stops. From the May 2025 timetable change, they were again shown as request stops in the public timetable. (Thi only applies to WMR, Chiltern trains do not regard the stations as request stops.)

 

[birchesgreen]

for about 18 months there was confusion because the public timetable and all public information suggested that they were no longer request stops, but the Internal operational documentation still had them as request stops. From the May 2025 timetable change, they were again shown as request stops in the public timetable. (This only applies to WMR, Chiltern trains do not regard the stations as request stops.)

Interesting though i went to Bearley a couple of months ago by WMR and didn't ask the guard to stop, but it did anyway.

 

[frediculous]

Sandy and Arlesey are both shown with Great Northern blobs, despite being served by a weekly total of 0 GN trains

 

[chrisjo]

Sandy and Arlesey are both shown with Great Northern blobs, despite being served by a weekly total of 0 GN trains

Two unactivated GN ECS movements pathed to stop at Arlesey today. Covering all the bases!

 

[MrMappy]

• Southern are shown as calling at St Denys despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Southern are shown as not calling at Netley despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as not calling at Faygate despite the fact that they do call there a few times a day and should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Balcombe with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call there two times a week so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Ifield with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Littlehaven with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Horley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Salfords with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Earlswood with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Anerley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Penge West with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as operating between Hilsea and Cosham despite the fact that no such services exist.

• Southern are not shown as operating between Hilsea and Bedhampton despite the fact that four trains per hour exist.

• Thameslink are shown as calling at South Croydon with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Eynsford despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Shoreham despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Higham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Bellingham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Crofton Park with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as a regular service line on the Beckenham Junction to New Beckenham curve when in reality they only get a few services a day so should be shown as a limited service line.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Bramley despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Mortimer despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading Green Park despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading West despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Earley despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Warminster despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.

• Gatwick Express should be shown as going via the Redhill line too as a couple of early morning and late evening services are booked that way instead of the Quarry line.

• Croydon Tramlink has Reeves Corner at the wrong location which incorrectly makes it look like trams from Church Street call there when in reality the stop should be placed on the left side of the triangle.

• Docklands Light Railway incorrectly shows trains from Poplar as terminating at Stratford International and trains from Canning Town as terminating at Stratford when in reality it is the opposite way round.

• Cross Country are shown as calling at Eastleigh despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Greater Anglia are shown as not calling at Seven Kings despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Acton Main Line despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hanwell despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Ealing Broadway with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Southall with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hayes & Harlington with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at West Drayton with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Iver with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Langley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Burnham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Taplow with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Wanborough with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that they do not call there.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Earley despite the fact that they do not call there.

• Heathrow Express are shown as operating between T123 and T4 despite the fact that none of their trains go there.

• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Thameslink route.

• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Northern Line route.

• London North Western Railway are shown as not calling at Bushey despite the fact that they do call there regularly.

You've been through it with a fine toothcombe!

 

[Class 466]

Bickley to Petts Wood on Southeastern still shown as 'Limited Service' despite it being 4tph all day whilst the infrequent Thameslink service over that section is highlighted otherwise.

 

[py_megapixel]

There's a new station on the Sheffield tram network - "Marlin Bridge".

Also "Catherdral" and "Hackenthrorpe".

 

[noddingdonkey]

The junction from Huddersfield/Deighton onto the line to Brighouse is mising - I think these services are currently bustituted due to TRU and reduced capacity at Huddersfield so I wonder if this is data driven?

 

[chrisjo]

The junction from Huddersfield/Deighton onto the line to Brighouse is mising - I think these services are currently bustituted due to TRU and reduced capacity at Huddersfield so I wonder if this is data driven?

Exactly the same as on the 'old' 'non-interactive' map then......

 

[Killingworth]

EMR shown as regularly stopping along the Hope Valley as well as at Dronfield, Langley Mill and Ilkeston.

EMR run the first westbound and last westbound stopping services through the Hope Valley Monday -Saturday.

Stops are shown at Dore & Totley correctly for EMR and Northern. The map implies TPE run through but don't stop. Currently 10 a day do stop.

 

[Y Ddraig Coch]

Many stations listed in North Wales as request stops that aren't. Not the end of the world , but still factually incorrect.

 

[Charlie978]

EMR run the first westbound and last westbound stopping services through the Hope Valley Monday -Saturday.

Stops are shown at Dore & Totley correctly for EMR and Northern. The map implies TPE run through but don't stop. Currently 10 a day do stop.

My point was that they created a feature for limited stops, such as EMR hope valley, but then haven’t used it.

Baffling that they acknowledged the EMR Dore & Totley stop but not the TPE ones which stop there for more regularly.

 

[scrapy]

My point was that they created a feature for limited stops, such as EMR hope valley, but then haven’t used it.

Baffling that they acknowledged the EMR Dore & Totley stop but not the TPE ones which stop there for more regularly.

Yes similarly Clifton is a shown as regular stop for Northern yet they only stop once a day in each direction.