Glenrothes with Thornton station renaming campaign

[TrainViation]

I noticed an article yesterday, which explained a certain frustration among residents of Glenrothes (including myself (im not in the article)), of the inadequately and poorly named “Glenrothes with Thornton” station.

The station itself is situated around 3 miles from the town of Glenrothes, and at the south of Thornton. Most commuters from Glenrothes would rather commute from the closer-by Markinch station, even though it has nothing to do with the neighbouring town. (It kind of reminds me of Ryanair’s route to Brussels, where instead of landing in the centre, you land at Brussels Charleroi, and have to pay extra to get an overcrowded bus for 40 minutes to the actual city itself.)

I am in favour of the name change from “Glenrothes with Thornton” to just “Thornton”, as it makes so much more logical sense. Let me know your thoughts and opinions on this thread.

Here is the link to the article covering exactly this: https://www.fifetoday.co.uk/news/po...hree-miles-from-town-its-named-after-5420298#

 

[BeijingDave]

Not really in favour of changing unique names to names for which there are multiple instances up and down the country (Thornton).

There are two stations in the north west alone with Thornton in the name (Cleveleys and Stanlow) and probably 50 villages with the name Thornton.

Keep it unique in my opinion.

 

[Sealink]

Curious as to why it it Glenrothes with Thornton and not "Glenrothes & Thornton".
I think Markinch used to be Markinch for Glenrothes, again why not Markinch & Glenrothes etc.

 

[Djgr]

I think some people have too much time on their hands.

 

[TrainViation]

Curious as to why it it Glenrothes with Thornton and not "Glenrothes & Thornton".
I think Markinch used to be Markinch for Glenrothes, again why not Markinch & Glenrothes etc.

After a little google, I found that the only previous name for Markinch station was "Mitchell Terrace", and didn't find anything about Glenrothes.

 

[Sealink]

After a little google, I found that the only previous name for Markinch station was "Mitchell Terrace", and didn't find anything about Glenrothes.

I thought I might be going mad, or maybe that it was a timetable footnote.

But no!

Markinch for Glenrothes

 

[Farigiraf]

In the past when trains terminated there, I would've been against this proposal. The village of Thornton, Fife is a less known destination compared to Glenrothes, so the unfamiliar traveller wishing to travel to Fife may recognise which train they need if the destination is Glenrothes, but potentially not Thornton. On the other hand, the number of travellers who are travelling to Fife without time to check the calling points of a train service is likely to be small.

Now that every train continues to Leven, it doesn't really matter. However with the typical costs of station renaming (potentially in the low millions) nowadays, you could make much more significant improvements with that money.

 

[rower40]

Glenrothes Road Parkway? Would have been the obvious choice if this were on the Great Western.

 

[Highlander1]

Glenrothes Road Parkway? Would have been the obvious choice if this were on the Great Western.

Might need a few more parking spaces to get away with calling it a Parkway

 

[BeijingDave]

Curious as to why it it Glenrothes with Thornton and not "Glenrothes & Thornton".
I think Markinch used to be Markinch for Glenrothes, again why not Markinch & Glenrothes etc.

For is usually used when the station is in one area but is a convenient alighting point for another e.g. Sankey for Penketh

 

[cjw714]

Curious as to why it it Glenrothes with Thornton and not "Glenrothes & Thornton".
I think Markinch used to be Markinch for Glenrothes, again why not Markinch & Glenrothes etc.

Am I right in thinking it's the only National Rail station with 'with' in its name?

 

[Cherry_Picker]

Am I right in thinking it's the only National Rail station with 'with' in its name?

Witham.

 

[EyeKay]

There are two stations in the north west alone with Thornton in the name (Cleveleys and Stanlow) and probably 50 villages with the name Thornton.

I think Thornton Cleveleys closed in 1970.

 

[pdeaves]

Witham.

Langwith-Whaley Thorns;
Lostwithiel.

In the spirit of the actual question...

Am I right in thinking it's the only National Rail station with 'with' in its name?

... Yes.

 

[yorksrob]

The locals will know which station they want anyway, so it doesn't really matter to them.

I guess the question is whether it causes confusion for incomers. Are there lots of passengers going to this station for Glenrothes because of the name, when they would be better served going to another station ?

 

[RUK]

Perhaps “Thornton, for Glenrothes” would be best?

 

[TrainViation]

How about “Thornton, with a hint of Glenrothes”?

 

[BeijingDave]

I think Thornton Cleveleys closed in 1970.

Slated to reopen, though.

 

[vic-rijrode]

How about “Thornton, with a hint of Glenrothes”?

What about Glenrothes with a hint of soda?

 

[jadmor]

What about Glenrothes with a hint of soda?

Glenrotton?

 

[rapmastaj]

Perhaps “Thornton, for Glenrothes” would be best?

"Thornton, not for Glenrothes" would be more accurate, since Markinch is the station you'd use if you wanted to go to Glenrothes.

 

[TrainViation]

"Thornton, not for Glenrothes" would be more accurate, since Markinch is the station you'd use if you wanted to go to Glenrothes.

Other than (sadly) living there, not really sure why you'd want to go to Glenrothes...

 

[Dr Hoo]

"Thornton, not for Glenrothes" would be more accurate, since Markinch is the station you'd use if you wanted to go to Glenrothes.

Depends where you’re coming from, e.g. Dunfermline. As far as I am aware there have always been direct buses between the controversial station and Glenrothes Centre (since it opened).

 

[rapmastaj]

Other than (sadly) living there, not really sure why you'd want to go to Glenrothes...

I did this trip a couple of times, but only in order to catch an onward bus from Glenrothes Centre to Falkland, which couldn't be a lovelier village. Generally though it was easier to get the madly circuitous bus from Ladybank to Falkland, since this at least means you only need to take one bus instead of two.

Depends where you’re coming from, e.g. Dunfermline. As far as I am aware there have always been direct buses between the controversial station and Glenrothes Centre (since it opened).

Yes that's fair. Though Markinch would be best from most places, I'd imagine.

 

[0161]

Curious as to why it it Glenrothes with Thornton and not "Glenrothes & Thornton".
I think Markinch used to be Markinch for Glenrothes, again why not Markinch & Glenrothes etc.

I absolutely hate the with in names like this. It just sounds like something that was dreamed up in some kind of public sector inclusivity "workshop"

When I used to visit Glenrothes, I seem to remember Markinch was "Markinch for Glenrothes"

If the good people of Glenrothes want to disassociate themselves from that station, renaming it "Thornton (Fife)" seems the smooth move.

 

[Dr Hoo]

I absolutely hate the with in names like this. It just sounds like something that was dreamed up in some kind of public sector inclusivity "workshop"

Nothing to do with ‘public sector inclusivity workshop’! “With” was sometimes used for parishes many years ago. Ironically, given your Forum name, Lancashire has several examples. Roby with Huyton is one that you might recognise.

 

[RUK]

I absolutely hate the with in names like this. It just sounds like something that was dreamed up in some kind of public sector inclusivity "workshop"

”With” here, is the opposite of “without”, in its old-fashioned sense of “outside of”. For example, there was a parish called “St Botolph without Aldgate”.

 

[318266]

”With” here, is the opposite of “without”, in its old-fashioned sense of “outside of”. For example, there was a parish called “St Botolph without Aldgate”.

All the more confusing, considering that up here in Scotland that definition of "without" becomes the nowadays much more commonly heard "outwith" to distinguish.

I stand in favour of "Thornton (for Glenrothes)", with the same signage as "Partick (for the Riverside Museum)". Thornton (Fife) would suffice for journey planners - I doubt many will be confused between it and Stanlow & Thornton (which isn't even open). Equally, if confusion is considered too great, I'm sure many - here especially - would be happy with the name "Thornton Junction"!

 

[0161]

Nothing to do with ‘public sector inclusivity workshop’! “With” was sometimes used for parishes many years ago. Ironically, given your Forum name, Lancashire has several examples. Roby with Huyton is one that you might recognise.

I appreciate that, however, to me it just sounds like one of these "Blackburn with Darwen Council: A place where everybody matters" things which I find incredibly forced and cringe.

Also, both Roby and Huyon have stations of their own

”With” here, is the opposite of “without”

Come all without, come all within ♫

 

[GD1982]

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