New National Rail Map - Very Wrong

[Pinus contorta]

It is possible that the wrong version has been uploaded and gone live.

So we are all fishing round looking for errors and finding them.

It is possible that another version might appear next week. Who knows?

 

[nwales58]

North Wales coast and Cambrian coast request stops are out of date, can’t remember how long ago they changed.

 

[Western Sunset]

Southampton Airport Parkway doesn't have the "airport" symbol, though there's a big clue in the station name... As someone mentioned above, is this the wrong edition uploaded?
Actually, I'm unclear as to why the need for two "airport" symbols, as many stations provide an onward link to the local airport, but have not been identified.

 

[ACBest]

Lumo and Grand Central are shown as calling at Grantham, which they of course do not!

Also some interesting spellings for Nottingham Express Transit stops, such as Morr Bridge rather than Moor Bridge, butler’s Hill instead of Butler’s Hill and High Road - Central Colleage instead of High Road - Central College. The walking link between Nottingham Station tram stop and Nottingham Railway Station is also missing, despite such links being shown at Bulwell and Hucknall.

 

[nareik91]

Woodside on the London Tramlink route is listed as being a ferry port, which is news to me...

 

[Jimini]

Woodside on the London Tramlink route is listed as being a ferry port, which is news to me...

That's a great spot

 

[Flange Squeal]

They do now and then.

And sometimes GWR have run trains into Waterloo or Euston, but you wouldn’t put those on a map of GWR routes. Something that only happens very infrequently during certain engineering works (or empties running between the yard and their starting station and vice versa which passenger can’t use) isn’t what a passenger needs/wants from a network map. Hence Cross Country don’t show Eastleigh on their route map or timetables, because you could be waiting months/years to catch one of their trains there!

 

[Port Road]

Well it is the ‘Gateway to the South’, after all.

(Which might mean nothing to our younger members. )

Ah yes, via the verdant grasslands of Battersea Park.....

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Bowker Yale on Metrolink is a new one on me

As is 'St. Werburg's Road', 'West Wood', 'Cemetry Road' and 'Oldham Kings Street'.

'Barton Dock Road' tram stop has been 'Trafford Palazzo' for a month now.

Didn't know that 'Exchange Square' tram stop was on the East side of Manchester City centre or that the (closed) 'Manchester United FC Halt' station was at the end of its own branch line.

 

[Retorus]

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They seem to have shown the branch via Anniesland as leaving the Argyle line at Partick when it leaves it at Hyndland.

I don't know how they've got some of this stuff wrong.

They’ve let AI run wild with it.

 

[SuspectUsual]

Woodside on the London Tramlink route is listed as being a ferry port, which is news to me...

They’ve let AI run wild with it.

But of course Birkenhead Woodside did link to the ferry. Over 50 years ago. Surely even AI wouldn't made a mistake like that?!?

 

[Dstock7080]

No District Line service from Earl’s Court towards Edgware Road.
No District service to Olympia
Many District/Circle joint stations only have one tick, not a circle as shown in other parts.
Blackfriars (LU), missing
Tufnell Park, missing
Kentish Town, missing

 

[speedy1]

I'm loving the comedic value of this new map!

AI definitely had some part in this surely lol

 

[1D53]

Noticed that the freight only Heysham to Warrenpoint ferry makes it to the map too - not sure if that's any use to the average rail user.

 

[Kite159]

Didn't know that 'Exchange Square' tram stop was on the East side of Manchester City centre or that the (closed) 'Manchester United FC Halt' station was at the end of its own branch line

Well technically speaking it was on the branch towards the Trafford Park freight terminal. So passenger network wise it was at the end of a short branch

 

[Charlie978]

CLC stops for TPE and EMR are just so wrong it’s laughable.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Well technically speaking it was on the branch towards the Trafford Park freight terminal. So passenger network wise it was at the end of a short branch

That's at may be, but Manchester United FC Halt certainly isn't / wasn't at the end of a mile long branch line, as the map suggests.

Also, isn't / wasn't the station most recently actually known as 'Manchester United Football Ground'?

 

[Pinus contorta]

They’ve let AI run wild with it.

I think they probably have. You can see where routes are superimposed on the road network instead of rail lines. Eg. Round Newton le Willows

 

[The Planner]

Cheadle Hulme triggers my perfectionism too.

 

[alistairlees]

I just noticed that Liverpool now has its very own circle line (image shows circular Merseyrail service running Moorfields - Lime Street - Central)

 

[The Planner]

Also, when did Wolvercote move south of Oxford North?

 

[enginedin]

I just noticed that Liverpool now has its very own circle line

I'm not understanding your issue with this?

 

[railpigeon]

Well it is the ‘Gateway to the South’, after all.

Perhaps the map will be updated manually. In other words… once a year.

 

[Tester]

I'm not understanding your issue with this?

It actually doesn't - it has a loop.

The third side of the triangle to the east of James St does not exist.

 

[enginedin]

That's at may be, but Manchester United FC Halt certainly isn't / wasn't at the end of a mile long branch line, as the map suggests.

So on a map representing passenger lines, how would you depict this if not at the end of a branch line?

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The third side of the triangle to the east of James St does not exist.

oh yes, fair enough, I agree that it looks like you can go from Central to Moorfields. Interestingly, unlike many of the other inaccuracies that people have highlighted, this one isn't shown on the static version of the map

 

[alistairlees]

I'm not understanding your issue with this?

There is no Merseyrail loop line from Central to Moorfields; they made it up.

 

[Surreytraveller]

• Southern are shown as calling at St Denys despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Southern are shown as not calling at Netley despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as not calling at Faygate despite the fact that they do call there a few times a day and should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Balcombe with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call there two times a week so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Ifield with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Littlehaven with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Horley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Salfords with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Earlswood with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Anerley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as calling at Penge West with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southern are shown as operating between Hilsea and Cosham despite the fact that no such services exist.

• Southern are not shown as operating between Hilsea and Bedhampton despite the fact that four trains per hour exist.

• Thameslink are shown as calling at South Croydon with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Eynsford despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Shoreham despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Higham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Bellingham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as calling at Crofton Park with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Southeastern are shown as a regular service line on the Beckenham Junction to New Beckenham curve when in reality they only get a few services a day so should be shown as a limited service line.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Bramley despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Mortimer despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading Green Park despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading West despite the fact that none of their services call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Earley despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.

• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Warminster despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.

• Gatwick Express should be shown as going via the Redhill line too as a couple of early morning and late evening services are booked that way instead of the Quarry line.

• Croydon Tramlink has Reeves Corner at the wrong location which incorrectly makes it look like trams from Church Street call there when in reality the stop should be placed on the left side of the triangle.

• Docklands Light Railway incorrectly shows trains from Poplar as terminating at Stratford International and trains from Canning Town as terminating at Stratford when in reality it is the opposite way round.

• Cross Country are shown as calling at Eastleigh despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Greater Anglia are shown as not calling at Seven Kings despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Acton Main Line despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hanwell despite the fact that they no longer call there.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Ealing Broadway with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Southall with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hayes & Harlington with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at West Drayton with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Iver with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Langley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Burnham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Taplow with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Wanborough with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that they do not call there.

• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Earley despite the fact that they do not call there.

• Heathrow Express are shown as operating between T123 and T4 despite the fact that none of their trains go there.

• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Thameslink route.

• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Northern Line route.

• London North Western Railway are shown as not calling at Bushey despite the fact that they do call there regularly.

Thameslink call at South Croydon twice an hour in each direction all day except late evenings (and more frequently during the peaks)
The Three Bridges and East Grinstead to Bedford services call there

 

[GN Boy]

The map makes out that Thameslink services call at the likes of Alexandra Palace, Welham Green and the such, which of course they do not.

 

[PLY2AYS]

It’s also extremely bothersome that annotations for partial/infrequent services, that the text is white and unreadable, even for those who aren’t hard of sight.

 

[Mcr Warrior]

So on a map representing passenger lines, how would you depict this if not at the end of a branch line?

A very short stub, perhaps? Or better still, by omitting it altogether, it's not as if the station has been in use for almost 8 years now?