aliceh
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The map also shows White Rose Station as open, which is extremely optimistic
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• Southern are shown as calling at St Denys despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Southern are shown as not calling at Netley despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as not calling at Faygate despite the fact that they do call there a few times a day and should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Balcombe with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call there two times a week so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Ifield with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Littlehaven with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Horley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Salfords with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Earlswood with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Anerley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Penge West with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as operating between Hilsea and Cosham despite the fact that no such services exist.
• Southern are not shown as operating between Hilsea and Bedhampton despite the fact that four trains per hour exist.
• Thameslink are shown as calling at South Croydon with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Eynsford despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Shoreham despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Higham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Bellingham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Crofton Park with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as a regular service line on the Beckenham Junction to New Beckenham curve when in reality they only get a few services a day so should be shown as a limited service line.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Bramley despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Mortimer despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading Green Park despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading West despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Earley despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Warminster despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.
• Gatwick Express should be shown as going via the Redhill line too as a couple of early morning and late evening services are booked that way instead of the Quarry line.
• Croydon Tramlink has Reeves Corner at the wrong location which incorrectly makes it look like trams from Church Street call there when in reality the stop should be placed on the left side of the triangle.
• Docklands Light Railway incorrectly shows trains from Poplar as terminating at Stratford International and trains from Canning Town as terminating at Stratford when in reality it is the opposite way round.
• Cross Country are shown as calling at Eastleigh despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Greater Anglia are shown as not calling at Seven Kings despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Acton Main Line despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hanwell despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Ealing Broadway with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Southall with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hayes & Harlington with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at West Drayton with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Iver with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Langley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Burnham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Taplow with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Wanborough with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that they do not call there.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Earley despite the fact that they do not call there.
• Heathrow Express are shown as operating between T123 and T4 despite the fact that none of their trains go there.
• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Thameslink route.
• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Northern Line route.
• London North Western Railway are shown as not calling at Bushey despite the fact that they do call there regularly.
• Southern are shown as not calling at Netley despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as not calling at Faygate despite the fact that they do call there a few times a day and should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Balcombe with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call there two times a week so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Ifield with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Littlehaven with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Horley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Salfords with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Earlswood with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Anerley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as calling at Penge West with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southern are shown as operating between Hilsea and Cosham despite the fact that no such services exist.
• Southern are not shown as operating between Hilsea and Bedhampton despite the fact that four trains per hour exist.
• Thameslink are shown as calling at South Croydon with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Eynsford despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Shoreham despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Higham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Bellingham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as calling at Crofton Park with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Southeastern are shown as a regular service line on the Beckenham Junction to New Beckenham curve when in reality they only get a few services a day so should be shown as a limited service line.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Bramley despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Mortimer despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading Green Park despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as calling at Reading West despite the fact that none of their services call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Earley despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.
• South Western Railway are shown as not calling at Warminster despite the fact that all of their trains on that route do call there.
• Gatwick Express should be shown as going via the Redhill line too as a couple of early morning and late evening services are booked that way instead of the Quarry line.
• Croydon Tramlink has Reeves Corner at the wrong location which incorrectly makes it look like trams from Church Street call there when in reality the stop should be placed on the left side of the triangle.
• Docklands Light Railway incorrectly shows trains from Poplar as terminating at Stratford International and trains from Canning Town as terminating at Stratford when in reality it is the opposite way round.
• Cross Country are shown as calling at Eastleigh despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Greater Anglia are shown as not calling at Seven Kings despite the fact that they do call there on a few services and should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Acton Main Line despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hanwell despite the fact that they no longer call there.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Ealing Broadway with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Southall with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Hayes & Harlington with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at West Drayton with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Iver with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Langley with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Burnham with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Taplow with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Wanborough with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh with a regular service symbol despite the fact that they only call a few times a day so should be shown with the limited service symbol.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Winnersh Triangle despite the fact that they do not call there.
• Great Western Railway are shown as calling at Earley despite the fact that they do not call there.
• Heathrow Express are shown as operating between T123 and T4 despite the fact that none of their trains go there.
• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Thameslink route.
• Kentish Town station is completely missing on the Northern Line route.
• London North Western Railway are shown as not calling at Bushey despite the fact that they do call there regularly.
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Byfleet & New Haw station is missing from this.
1D53
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Yet there is no bus symbol at Bradford Interchange which is arguably a quicker bus than Leeds!
Also Humberside Airport is shown in its own right on the bus link, yet neither station the airport bus services has a symbol!
TPE are also shown as calling at Cottingley Morley Batley Ravensthorpe which they now don't call at.
southern442
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Thameslink serve South Croydon half-hourly all day
YorksLad12
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Also Woodlesford on the way to/from Normanton. They do use the via Castleford route but only when the Micklefield route is shut, so it should be on there.
It'll need revising in a fortnight anyway, when the Leeds-Aberdeen service goes.
Oh i forgot that had changed. It used to be a very limited service. In that case then South Croydon is one of the few correct things on the map.
aliceh
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There's still a late night service or two that does - but it should have a limited service blob, not the normal service blob
southern442
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true!
I think that's a little unfair. Out of the thousands of data points which the map represents, there are ~40 which people have highlighted might not be accurate. I'm nothing do with the creators of the map, and don't work in the railway industry, so have no vested interest, but I don't like people shouting into a vacuous echo chamber where nothing can be done rather than 1) giving credit or 2) give feedback via channels where it will actually be actioned
What's wrong with it? Obviously diagrmatically it looks different.
Interestingly I can't zoom in that far on my browser and it looks OK, might be different on phone.
For a first go, this is a pretty good interactive map considering how much linkage and connections there are, as well as trying to be relatively geographically accurate. The odd error will no doubt be flagged and rectified in the coming days. I am sure this was used as a reference. There is also a new non-interactive one - link.
When i first Checked it they had missed out a few stations such as Preston Road but it seems to be fixed now as far as i can tell.
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They've shown Cambridge South as open when it isn't even finished yet.
Always nice to be ambitious!
Charlie978
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The map shows a regular TPE service to Cross Gates and Garforth, when Garforth only receives a limited service - do TPE even call at Cross Gates outside of disruption?
Also the Altofts curve (Normanton - Woodlesford skipping Castleford) is shown as a limited TPE service, which is correct. No Northern service at all is shown however despite them sending 2tph from Barnsley that way.
TPE are also shown providing a regular service from Leeds to Castleford, which is only the case in disruption.
XC is shown stopping regularly at Meadowhall, and it doesn’t at all.
EMR shown as regularly stopping along the Hope Valley as well as at Dronfield, Langley Mill and Ilkeston.
Finally in my neck of the woods, a Northern service from Chesterfield to Nottingham via (and calling at) Derby is shown. This hasn’t run for at least 5 years I believe, I don’t even think Northern sign via Derby anymore. This interestingly enough is also shown on Apple Maps too.
Also the Altofts curve (Normanton - Woodlesford skipping Castleford) is shown as a limited TPE service, which is correct. No Northern service at all is shown however despite them sending 2tph from Barnsley that way.
TPE are also shown providing a regular service from Leeds to Castleford, which is only the case in disruption.
XC is shown stopping regularly at Meadowhall, and it doesn’t at all.
EMR shown as regularly stopping along the Hope Valley as well as at Dronfield, Langley Mill and Ilkeston.
Finally in my neck of the woods, a Northern service from Chesterfield to Nottingham via (and calling at) Derby is shown. This hasn’t run for at least 5 years I believe, I don’t even think Northern sign via Derby anymore. This interestingly enough is also shown on Apple Maps too.
9M62 18:52 Edinburgh-Euston is daily, although this week mainly served by a replacement bus.
They do now and then.
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Stopped going to Glasgow nearly a year ago.
I wonder if this map was generated by AI.
While that would be a fair comment had this been produced by one of us - just a forum member - as it is an official National Rail product, linked from (and back to) their website, I must say I'm distinctly disappointed. It's not as if they had put something like "A new design for an old map. We should welcome your comments." (or corrections) on it - with a contact point for feedback. As the UndergrounD group did for the first version of Mr Beck's map...
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Wondering if you've managed to unselect all three of the colour options in the layers box at top right (which I can't - it insists one is selected)? But either way, yes, you are
No - 'TOC colours' is ticked. Must just be an issue with my device.
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Bowker Yale on Metrolink is a new one on me
The Caledonian Sleeper now serves new destinations including Milton Keynes Central, Rugeley Trent Valley, Stafford, Warrington Bank Quay and Lockerbie...
And doesn't serve Dalmuir apparently.
Trainguy34
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On Manchester Metro link it has an interesting spelling on Deansgate-Castlefield as "deansgate-Castelfield". The capitalisation (or lack of) is more irritating then the incorrect spelling to me!
Steddenm
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Have just noticed PALLIO on the Tyne & Wear Metro, Broad Water on the Blackpool Tram and I'm not entirely sure they know where North and South Shields are, and the Newcastle ferry terminal is to the WEST of North Shields not the east of it.
Western Sunset
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Haven't read the whole thread, but why does Bristol Parkway have an "airport" symbol?
I just noticed that too!
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