Yes for pay as you go purposes, but that will still imply a very large price increase over today. No for GM Rail Ranger purposes.
So you're happy to pull the ladder up and watch visitors get stung for boarding the late-running xx:33 with a ticket for the xx:37 to Manchester Airport? Just as long as you get a few pence off on a short journey...
'Everyone' doesn't. In these days of ticketing websites there is much less need for simplification, as long as you read what the site tells you.
It's not all bad. Transport for Wales introduced their dedicated season tickets recently. Shame about their persistent inability to run the trains!
It isn't, but if its fares are affected by this wider change it is unfair for the GM area to benefit and others to suffer detriment.
Some are a few pence. Others are a meaningful percentage. It doesn't make sense to generalise, especially when you're talking about something that's not happening. Indeed the season ticket has only just been made available for the first time the other week.
The number of weekly tickets that was available for less than £21 or four weekly for £87.40 (inflated to 2025 prices) was very, very minor. The £2 unlimited single almost entirely mitigated the day ticket increases to £5, because again there were almost no day tickets cheaper than £4. So in that case nearly everyone pays less or the same today. It's very niche to find anyone who pays more.
I agree strongly. Unfortunately the English system of local government essentially leaves a vacuum of any kind of local accountability in non-Metropolitan, non-London authorities. Many such authorities are basically broke through a deliberate policy of defunding them that's gone on for decades. Even financially healthy ones have legal duties to provide certain services which Parliament dumps on them while refusing to adequately fund. Transport (except very limited cases such as children accessing certain schools) isn't one of those duties.
I agree with you if you're saying that it was a proportionate approach to what's often called simplification, acknowledging that a very small slice of people do indeed have to pay more for the same, while the train approach isn't that. But it seems that you're not saying that, I'm not sure?
Wilmslow is likely to be in the pay as you go area.
It's not in the GM ticketing area but it has had price increases at the same time.
I don't think anyone suggests the fares are artificially low apart from you though. The Wilmslow - Manchester fare was arguably artificially high, and is being increased by 1/3. That's the issue.
It's already been pointed out that fares are being adjusted outside the area which gets the 'benefits'.
All advance tickets are set at market rates by definition, so all this shows is how overpriced the flexible tickets are. If they weren't, the Advance tickets would never be bought by anybody.
Since when did TfW start "serving" Alderley Edge? Must have missed that! And how does a TfW season ticket (or return) from Alderley Edge to/from Manchester work? How do you get back?
They serve it on Sundays. So it's pretty much useless.
On Sunday morning, eg 1W01 09:30 Crewe to Manchester.
As above it's a handful of trains a week, mostly towards Manchester. There's a couple of morning ones to Manchester on weekdays and a lunchtime one on Saturdays in the new timetable, but there aren't any back. They did used to have a Sunday afternoon one from Manchester but I don't think that's run for a while now.
Oh yes, at 06:46 (too early) and 08:47 (too late) on weekdays.
The good folk of Wilmslow fought long and hard to be on the other side of this articificial boundary.
I was living in Poynton at the time and I well remember the “keep Poynton in Cheshire” campaign which was similarly successful. The funny thing today is the people who live in Hale (and probably don’t have to pay the bills) who think they are in Cheshire when they’re not.
