SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

[NSEWonderer]

5742 and 5713 I believe will see the chop at some point, definitely next in the recent line to go. Marked duo

 

[TrainLifeGB]

5742 and 5713 I believe will see the chop at some point, definitely next in the recent line to go. Marked duo

5750 too. It had a najor MA failure.

 

[WWTownEnth]

I’m guessing no sign Of a scrap move tomorrow then?

 

[TrainLifeGB]

I’m guessing no sign Of a scrap move tomorrow then?

I don't believe so.

 

[A60stock]

Does anyone know if 455s will be on any Feltham line diagrams this evening after 1700/1730?

 

[Stephen42]

Does anyone know if 455s will be on any Feltham line diagrams this evening after 1700/1730?

At Feltham itself, 18:11 to Waterloo (from Weybridge) is booked as a 4-car 455. The 17:46 to Waterloo (from Ascot) and 19:04 to Ascot are on a 458 diagram that is a 4-car 455 today as well.

 

[TrainLifeGB]

I see 5872 is on the Ascot services all day.

 

[A60stock]

At Feltham itself, 18:11 to Waterloo (from Weybridge) is booked as a 4-car 455. The 17:46 to Waterloo (from Ascot) and 19:04 to Ascot are on a 458 diagram that is a 4-car 455 today as well.

Sorry, should have been clearer, I meant departing waterloo in the direction of the Reading line (which I know is partly closed right now)

 

[Invincible]

There must be quite a backlog of 455s now awaiting scrap drags. If only there was room at the other end!

An update on Unimetals, it still owes Sims Australia a lot of money, a £55m payment is still outstanding, but things are progressing.

One of the UK’s largest metal recycling businesses files second NOI as it progresses search for new investment - Insider Media

One of the largest metal recycling and processing businesses in the UK has filed a second notice of intention to appoint administrators to give it more time to secure new investment.

www.insidermedia.com

A spokesperson added: "Unimetals has today filed a further notice of intention to appoint administrators to give the business additional time to reach a binding deal with potential financiers that secures investment and protects the long-term interests of employees, creditors, customers, and suppliers."

 

[Leoliontrains]

They'll go whenever they run out of miles. Could be after the 455s or it could be before. Who knows. All i'll say is 8535 is probably the next one to drop. 8533 and 8530 spent a considerable amount of time in the depot during 2023 and 2025 respectively so i'd assume that they're last.

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As an update, 5863 had a MA fault which is of course fixed, and 5870 needs a new bearing(so probably scrap for that one).

Glad 5863 can be fixed up, sad that 5870 might never see passenger services again, thank you for the info on that

 

[A60stock]

Have more class 450s been deployed on the usual 455 diagrams? I've noticed them more on the metro routes which were historically only ever 455, and sometimes, 458

 

[Invincible]

What new owners?

455686 in blue seems secure at Derby, still no confirmation from Network Rail if they want all or part of it as a stationary training unit?.

 

[Goldfish62]

Have more class 450s been deployed on the usual 455 diagrams? I've noticed them more on the metro routes which were historically only ever 455, and sometimes, 458

Do you mean since the timetable change in May, when more were deployed on metro routes, or more recently than that?

 

[Bikeman78]

Have more class 450s been deployed on the usual 455 diagrams? I've noticed them more on the metro routes which were historically only ever 455, and sometimes, 458

I think there are nine pairs at the moment. I don't know if that has changed in the past year.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I think there are nine pairs at the moment. I don't know if that has changed in the past year.

Is that it? I thought we’d reached a point where more were 450s than 455s, to be honest.

 

[mansonlo49]

Wonder is there any 455 scrap this week, if not then is the first time in the past few months that no scrap in a week

 

[Bikeman78]

Is that it? I thought we’d reached a point where more were 450s than 455s, to be honest.

That's on the Wimbledon side. There are five pairs on Weybridge/Reading.

 

[Goldfish62]

That's on the Wimbledon side. There are five pairs on Weybridge/Reading.

Except on those services (and Windsor until recent displacement) they've been there since new and didn't replace 455s, just as the 450s on the mainline outer suburban and long distance have been.

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Is that it? I thought we’d reached a point where more were 450s than 455s, to be honest.

Pretty much there given I think there's about 9-10 pairs of 455s left diagrammed.

 

[Bikeman78]

Except on those services (and Windsor until recent displacement) they've been there since new and didn't replace 455s, just as the 450s on the mainline outer suburban and long distance have been.

Agreed, which is why I only referred to the Wimbledon diagrams in my earlier post.

 

[444045]

455686 in blue seems secure at Derby, still no confirmation from Network Rail if they want all or part of it as a stationary training unit?.

From the message I got earlier last night, Network Rail have purchased U.455868 and the two trailer coaches are going to be transported by road to the ROC at Basingstoke for training purposes. (Regional Operations Control)

 

[norbitonflyer]

From the message I got earlier last night, Network Rail have purchased U.455868 and the two trailer coaches are going to be transported by road to the ROC at Basingstoke for training purposes. (Regional Operations Control)

Which two trailer coaches? There are three (two driving trailers and one intermediate)

 

[444045]

Which two trailer coaches? There are three (two driving trailers and one intermediate)

Sorry the two driving trailers.

 

[Leoliontrains]

Seems like 455s are still running the Shepperton services, not sure if this one was actually planned but I guess the 455s will still see the Shepperton end. Units here are 5729 and 5849.

 

[Goldfish62]

Seems like 455s are still running the Shepperton services, not sure if this one was actually planned but I guess the 455s will still see the Shepperton end. Units here are 5729 and 5849.

Not planned. It's a substitute. SWR are currently trying to run 25 daily diagrams with the 25 701s currently passed for service. That would be a nigh-on impossible task even for a well-established fleet.

There are plenty of spare 455s hanging around that can be used.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Not planned. It's a substitute. SWR are currently trying to run 25 daily diagrams with the 25 701s currently passed for service. That would be a nigh-on impossible task even for a well-established fleet.

And not helped by there only being 17 701s in passenger service so far today although a lot of the cancellations are due to train crew shortages which appear to be affecting the 701 diagrams more than the other fleets.

 

[Davester50]

5750 too. It had a najor MA failure.

Thought 5750 was a special one after the renumbering to the old BS number.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Thought 5750 was a special one after the renumbering to the old BS number.

Nothing special technically. It just happened to be the highest-numbered 455/7 (originally 5743). The last 455 to be built was 5920, which is long gone.

 

[Juniper Driver]

All 3 458/5s were out by the looks of it. 8530 has been doing Wokingham services as well as Weybridge and Waterloo loop services. I wonder how long the 3 458/5s have left. If they even have a future.

AH, that's why I didn't see 458530.
Where is 458529?

 

[mansonlo49]

It’s getting even rare to have two 455/8 coupled together, since they’ve been a small group now

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I may come up to London tomorrow (Saturday). What are the chances now of finding a 455 in service?

I know @TT-ONR-NRN doesn't get much time to update but does anyone know the status of 5713, 5742 and 5750 - are they officially withdrawn?