bishdunster
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Bournemouth had 4 platforms in the 1970s and the staff club (BRSA) was always referred to as "Platform 5" !
I'm not actually sure if Newtown is a place in it's own right, or is considered a suburb of New Mills. Certainly the station is in Newtown, but is close enough to New Mills to be usable, and some tickets are valid to either.Whereas Newtown to me is Newtown (Powys)!
Road signs when approaching the area along the A6 still say 'Newtown'. Believe the locality was once a separate parish, before being merged into New Mills in the 1930s.I'm not actually sure if Newtown is a place in it's own right...
Thanks, I've been doing some similar research for another project so didn't take me too long to look this up. Interestingly at about the same time (1860s) North Hill Station crops up a few times and North Street Station once or twice before North Station becomes the settled usage.
There are a few examples of the GER using it in the paper too - mostly in letters to the local authority which the paper reproduces, but at least once in an advert the GER placed. Couldn't immediately find any reporting suggesting that they'd been asked to change the name to match local usage and I guess they may not have been keen to advertise how inconvenient their main station actually was for the centre of town.
Does anyone still call it Dorking North? It's probably died out by now.I noticed the NRE site referred to Dorking as "Dorking (Main)" recently in an engineering works note.
Ashford International is AFK (after Ashford (Kent)).Out of interest: are there any station codes that still reflect a previous name?
...and used to be called Dorking Town! I still occasionally hear Dorking (Deepdene) called plain Deepdene, which of course it was for many decades prior to gaining its more sensible present name.Dorking, Surrey also has three stations, and the irony is that the one that is closest to the town has by far the worst service (Dorking West)!
Lots of things happen in Surrey that most people thought had previously died out, that includedDoes anyone still call it Dorking North? It's probably died out by now.
In my time it was always "the Junction" among local railway staff. "Change at the Junction", "Junction men work that to Chester" (despite the possibility of Mold Junction men being involved) etc.I know in north east Flintshire, Shotton station is sometimes referred to merely by, "high level", or "low level".
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Also on this line, it's somewhat commonplace to ask for a ticket to "The Junction".
The definite article has now been lost for most people so "Change at Junction", "Day Return to Junction" etc.In my time it was always "the Junction" among local railway staff. "Change at the Junction", "Junction men work that to Chester" (despite the possibility of Mold Junction men being involved) etc.
Still isAnd the pub opposite the station was always "The Killer", but that's another story!
Brings up an interesting point though. Difficult to explain in general - but basically, the minute Edinburgh Park / Gateway opened (whichever was first), then Waverley should have regained its suffix. Likewise Cambridge should have gained one once North opened (but not “central” as it’s anything but!).I've read Stratford 'Regional' as opposed to International but never heard this in the wild.
the minute Edinburgh Park / Gateway opened (whichever was first), then Waverley should have regained its suffix. Likewise Cambridge should have gained one once North opened
Indeed - not sure why ENR or Chiltern would object as all their services will serve it as well. Personally I’m quite in favour of “Main” as an equivalent of Hbf (in situations where there’s nothing more “obvious”) implying its status but nothing about geography.Interesting points! Also perhaps Oxford, once Parkway opened, although I'm not sure how it should be renamed - Central (although it is not), General (as per the GWR), or Main Line (Chiltern and EWR might object).
I think Oxford Hbf, and indeed Cambridge Hbf, would be just fine.Indeed - not sure why ENR or Chiltern would object as all their services will serve it as well. Personally I’m quite in favour of “Main” as an equivalent of Hbf - implying its status but nothing about geography.
Bangor (Main) station, not to be confused with Bangor, Maine, or Bangor,At least we don't have the Frankfurt Main Hbf problem
"General" probably fits best for both Oxford and Cambridge, although my preference would be "City". Either that or give it a personal suffix, maybe 'Cambridge Newton' and 'Oxford Hooke' to continue the rivalry?Interesting points! Also perhaps Oxford, once Parkway opened, although I'm not sure how it should be renamed - Central (although it is not), General (as per the GWR), or Main Line (Chiltern and EWR might object).
"City" is probably the most obvious and least confusing for Oxford tourists. But "General" implies it's the main station where most connections are made and where all the intercity services depart from, which is also true. So maybe "Oxford City & General"? But then that makes it sound like a hospital!"General" probably fits best for both Oxford and Cambridge, although my preference would be "City". Either that or give it a personal suffix, maybe 'Cambridge Newton' and 'Oxford Hooke' to continue the rivalry?
I would have said 'Stiniog' to a local(Gwynedd) Welsh speaking peer and 'Bleuna' to anyone else, Welsh, Welsh speaker, posh or foreign. In the same way as nearby Bethesda would be called 'Pesda'. Using the two alternatives would have been regarded as rude and disrespectful in the presence of elders. There was no ambiguity with near by Ffestiniog.Always "Blaenau"
"City" is probably the most obvious and least confusing for Oxford tourists.
Sometimes aye.On the Borders railway, apparently Newtongrange is known as Nitten, so you do hear Nitten station sometimes.
Maybe true, but the absence of any other terminus in Edinburgh (since the closure of Princes Street or Caley or whatever our ancestors called it) meant this either wasn't going to happen formally or would never be adopted sufficiently well by passengers.the minute Edinburgh Park / Gateway opened (whichever was first), then Waverley should have regained its suffix.
I've never heard "The Waverley" in common use but I suppose there are bigger crimes (see above)! It's perhaps slightly ambiguous because there's a line in the Borders area that some people call the Waverley Route but it's a long distance from Edinburgh. As a local I'd always call it Waverley Station when describing to another local, but of course in railway terms it's Edinburgh.Edinburgh station has always been known as Waverley, and to be true Edinburgh argot should be "The Waverley". Certainly in the 1970s-80s the signage at the entrance just said 'Waverley Station'. Although Haymarket never seems to have had an Edinburgh prefix, the two have always been known just by their distinctive names alone.
I believe Nitten is just an everyday name for Newtongrange village rather than specific to the station. A bit like Enster for Anstruther.On the Borders railway, apparently Newtongrange is known as Nitten, so you do hear Nitten station sometimes.
Indeed it is.I believe Nitten is just an everyday name for Newtongrange village rather than specific to the station. A bit like Enster for Anstruther.
But Central is the new name. I’ve just taken a taxi to “LNER (Central)” and the taxi company doesn’t mean the LNER that took over from Virgin!Lincoln 'Central' appears on most if not all station platform displays at EMR stations and is often announced on trains the same.
The westbound platforms actually in the larger village of Flookburgh. (Eastbound is in Cark) Flookburgh and Cark would be the most accurate name for the station, although I can see why they didn't want to name the station Flookburgh as many would choose not to pronounce the L. Grange station is actually closer to Cartmel.The station is Cark and Cartmel, the village is Cark, or Cark in Cartmel but Cartmel is a separate village better known for its racecourse.
Surely the evidence of the last fifty or so years suggests that the suffix concerned (“Waverley”) has survived all attempts to expunge it so is unlikely not to be “adopted sufficiently well by passengers”. On top of this, the usefulness of Haymarket for a large proportion of the city means there is a need to distinguish what “the station” means.Maybe true, but the absence of any other terminus in Edinburgh (since the closure of Princes Street or Caley or whatever our ancestors called it) meant this either wasn't going to happen formally or would never be adopted sufficiently well by passengers.
Many years ago, when Edinburgh Road station was still open, Perth was known as Perth General....the only example that I know of such a suffix being used for a non-Great Western or GWR joint station. Didn't Chester also have the 'General' suffix prior to the closure of Northgate in about 1969?Many stations used to be suffixes “General” but are no longer (eg Chester, Banbury, Reading) but the only one I know of that is still signposted thus is Wrexham General.