mansonlo49
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212 and 217 both rode, they're same as the others, good ride
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DJH1971
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Good comfy seats too
mansonlo49
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I liked them compared to the units they’re replacing, also I liked their ex first class section too
DJH1971
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Where is the ex-first class section on the 730?
mansonlo49
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One of the driving end is
In one of the end coaches, when pantograph is raised it points in the direction of where the ex first class is.
mansonlo49
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There's a diamond shaped marked beside the unit number and that's the composite coach which have the ex first class section in there
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Never noticed that.
mansonlo49
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I just known it when I first rode the 730s recently
childwallblues
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No increase in 730/2 diagrams from Liverpool this morning. According to RTT the 0608 is 217 and the 0633 is 233. The other six diagrams are still 350s,
rogercov
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Interestingly, 217 is scheduled to end up at Soho tonight, rather than going back empty to Crewe. Perhaps it will appear on a service which starts in Birmingham tomorrow. We shall see.
216 was on Soho on Thursday with about 11 730/0's
Silverlinky
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A lot of changes this week. I've listed them in headcode and time order from Liverpool so you can work out what will be what.
1G40 0608 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G41 0633 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G42 0708 350 all week
1G43 0733 350 all week
1G44 0808 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F
1G45 0833 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G46 0912 350 MO, 730 Tu/W/Th/F
1G47 0933 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G48 1012 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G49 1033 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G50 1108 350 all week
1G51 1133 350 all week
1G52 1208 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F
1G53 1233 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G54 1308 350 MO, 730 Tu/W/Th/F
1G55 1333 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G56 1408 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G57 1433 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G58 1508 350 all week
1G59 1533 350 all week
1G60 1612 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F
1G61 1633 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G62 1710 350 MO, 730 Tu/W/Th/F
1G63 1733 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G64 1808 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G65 1833 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G67 1933 350 all week
1K68 2008 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F (to Crewe)
1G69 2033 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G70 2133 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
2K97 2233 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F (to Crewe)
2K99 2333 350 all week (to Crewe)
Having written all that lot out it looks like a third circuit comes into play on Wednesday and a fourth on Thursday this week
1G40 0608 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G41 0633 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G42 0708 350 all week
1G43 0733 350 all week
1G44 0808 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F
1G45 0833 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G46 0912 350 MO, 730 Tu/W/Th/F
1G47 0933 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G48 1012 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G49 1033 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G50 1108 350 all week
1G51 1133 350 all week
1G52 1208 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F
1G53 1233 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G54 1308 350 MO, 730 Tu/W/Th/F
1G55 1333 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G56 1408 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G57 1433 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G58 1508 350 all week
1G59 1533 350 all week
1G60 1612 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F
1G61 1633 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G62 1710 350 MO, 730 Tu/W/Th/F
1G63 1733 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G64 1808 730 MO, 350 Tu/W/Th/F
1G65 1833 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F
1G67 1933 350 all week
1K68 2008 350 M/Tu/W, 730 Th/F (to Crewe)
1G69 2033 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
1G70 2133 350 M/Tu, 730 W/Th/F
2K97 2233 730 M/Tu, 350 W/Th/F (to Crewe)
2K99 2333 350 all week (to Crewe)
Having written all that lot out it looks like a third circuit comes into play on Wednesday and a fourth on Thursday this week
mansonlo49
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childwallblues
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I saw 730232/210 on Arriva Train Care Depot, Crewe this afternoon.
rogercov
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There's a second move (5Q77) planned for the day after in the opposite direction, so it looks like a swap.
mansonlo49
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thanks，just wondering they’re still storing the units?
DJH1971
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Today's 06:33 Liverpool to Birmingham service was a 350 instead of a 730/2.
Do we Need those reporting? Set swaps happen all the time. Irrelevant wether swapped between new or old stock
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Reported 5 posts up that it's diagrammed as a 350 Wednesday-Friday this week.
FrontSideBus
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Well I've sampled a couple of these new units out of Liverpool and was actually quite surprised to be honest.
People saying the seats are better than the 350's they are replacing... I couldn't disagree more!
They are bolt upright and I wouldn't want to do any serious journey on them at all, was pretty glad to get off at Crewe!
The rest of the interior ambience is quite nice and the ride is nice but, IMO, the new seating is terrible!
A few more degrees of recline would have made all the difference IMO.
People saying the seats are better than the 350's they are replacing... I couldn't disagree more!
They are bolt upright and I wouldn't want to do any serious journey on them at all, was pretty glad to get off at Crewe!
The rest of the interior ambience is quite nice and the ride is nice but, IMO, the new seating is terrible!
A few more degrees of recline would have made all the difference IMO.
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mansonlo49
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Normally they go to Gascoigne Wood for modifications/rectification work.
this could be a unit that has not yet entered passenger service .
mansonlo49
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oh yes forgotten they’ll also do modifications there too
tfw756rider
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Class 1 (1xxx) and Class 2 (2xxx) headcodes are actual passenger services. Class 3 (3xxx) and Class 5 (5xxx) headcodes are non-passenger workings.
Jamesrob637
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Yep, popular office day for many.
tfw756rider
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I was replying to an old post from the 27/6/25 (#3168 on page 106); apologies for not making that clear.
Jamesrob637
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Oh yeah, but in 2025 many go (back) into the office Wednesdays so 10 car is definitely justified.
rogercov
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What are these for?
5G99 0905 London Euston to Soho L.M.D.
5A99 1209 Soho L.M.D. to London Euston
This has been mentioned before but nobody has yet suggested an answer.
A pair of 730/0s runs ECS every weekday between Euston and Soho L.M.D. They are in normal passenger service to/from Euston for the rest of the day so it's not a test run.
They stop at a few places on the way. RTT reports some of these stops as "for staffing reasons".
Originally I thought this was for stock transfers. Occasionally one of the units gets swapped at Soho but on most days it's the same pair that returns to Euston.
What is the purpose of this service? It seems extravagant to run a 6-car train on a round trip of over 200 miles just to move a few staff around.
5G99 0905 London Euston to Soho L.M.D.
5A99 1209 Soho L.M.D. to London Euston
This has been mentioned before but nobody has yet suggested an answer.
A pair of 730/0s runs ECS every weekday between Euston and Soho L.M.D. They are in normal passenger service to/from Euston for the rest of the day so it's not a test run.
They stop at a few places on the way. RTT reports some of these stops as "for staffing reasons".
Originally I thought this was for stock transfers. Occasionally one of the units gets swapped at Soho but on most days it's the same pair that returns to Euston.
What is the purpose of this service? It seems extravagant to run a 6-car train on a round trip of over 200 miles just to move a few staff around.