Liam L
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Id imagine for Chiltern livery on the 196s, it would be the newer livery as seen on refurbished 168s?
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EWR/Chiltern Class 196 Build and Implementation
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tfw756rider
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Yes of course
And I wonder what colour the gangway doors will be? (I'm guessing still black, unless they can be "wrapped"?)== Doublepost prevention - post automatically merged: ==
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Robin Edwards
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Is there any news as to when the new Chiltern service will likely commence? Bletchley TMD seems to currently stable WMT 730s and the 196s have returned to TY?
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East-West Rail (EWR) countdown to entry into service
mods note - split from this thread I see that on Wednesday and Thursday both trains will be running through the Claydon Loops which they did not do today. Am I right in thinking these loops are for the bin liners when they resume?
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Is the existing thread for that, but to answer your question - no
196009/011/012 are all at Bletchley.
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thank you @150219East-West Rail (EWR) countdown to entry into service
mods note - split from this thread I see that on Wednesday and Thursday both trains will be running through the Claydon Loops which they did not do today. Am I right in thinking these loops are for the bin liners when they resume?
Is the existing thread for that, but to answer your question - no
196009/011/012 are all at Bletchley.
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They will need to cycle through Tyseley at some point this year for modifications.
wls1
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196007 and 196009 have both been done, ran from Wolverton to Bletchley this evening
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Realtime Trains | 5J30 1710 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Bletchley T.M.D. | 01/11/2025
Real-time train running information for 5J30 1710 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Bletchley T.M.D. on 01/11/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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I saw that. There’s something almost Regional Railways esq about it. I’m still undecided but perhaps it finally means some progress on the EWR front at long last.
Jacob Porrett
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It's not even his photo either. Credit unknown at the moment.
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Also looks similar to the refurb 168s.
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Has any of the interior decor been altered? The route maps etc.
Peter Mugridge
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I really like that livery.
Also - if they're now appearing in the livery, presumably we are finally close to getting passenger services started on the route...?
Also - if they're now appearing in the livery, presumably we are finally close to getting passenger services started on the route...?
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Agreed.
Change the light blue stripes to red, and it would make a good GBR scheme.
TT-ONR-NRN
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I love that.
I can never get used to trains without a yellow front. It looks so strange. But i quite like that livery. It definitely reminds me a lot of the old British Rail Regional Railways livery with those colours.
Liam L
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I'd imagine route maps would of been updated, I doubt the rest of the interiors have been touched since they are subleased from WMR will hopefully be returned to them one day.
Strathclyder
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I like that, almost like a modern take on the Regional Railways livery as others have mentioned.
It's the same colour palate as RR, or at least seems like it in that image.
Trains without the yellow ends take some getting used to - and if they're not actually going to do anything interesting with the end (like here, or the various plain black ends that there are running around), I'd sooner see it in yellow. Now if someone were to come up with a modern end design equivalent to ATSF Warbonnet or SP Black Widow then we'd be talking...
Trains without the yellow ends take some getting used to - and if they're not actually going to do anything interesting with the end (like here, or the various plain black ends that there are running around), I'd sooner see it in yellow. Now if someone were to come up with a modern end design equivalent to ATSF Warbonnet or SP Black Widow then we'd be talking...
tfw756rider
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Wow, it's so nice to see the 196, the first Civity UK class to have multiple operators, actually in the second of its two simultaneous liveries (and the third simultaneous livery of 196+197 combined)! Thanks for sharing!
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Something has just occurred to me. In the photo, the Chiltern 196 has its driver's cab door open, and the position it opens to is where the "CAF" logo would be on a West Midlands Railway 196. Does anyone know if the CAF logo has been re-applied?
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Think it'll have to grow on me. The light blue band just extending straight through the front end PIS display does not look very polished imo - I feel like they could've suited it to the train a bit better. And there's the whole 'Regional Railways 2025' of it all, though I don't mind that too much.
Pete_uk
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Seeing in daylight will be nice, but it does look nice
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tfw756rider
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Here's a video (not mine):
YouTube clip of Chiltern-liveried 196007 arriving into Oxford in daylight on the 4/11/25:
✂️ 196007 in daylight
34 seconds · Clipped by A Person · Original video "Trains at Oxford. CVL. 04/11/2025." by The Claret & Blue Trainspotter
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YouTube clip of Chiltern-liveried 196007 departing from Oxford in daylight on the 4/11/25:
✂️ 196007 in daylight 2
33 seconds · Clipped by A Person · Original video "Trains at Oxford. CVL. 04/11/2025." by The Claret & Blue Trainspotter
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The Chiltern livery definitely looks odd on it without a yellow front , although it's probably just not being used to it as all other Chiltern rolling stock has yellow fronts.
tfw756rider
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With credit to The Claret & Blue Trainspotter, 4 "video still" photos attached (for accessibility purposes) of Chiltern-liveried 196007 at Oxford on the 4/11/25 (next to 165013 in one of them):
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These captures also confirm that the CAF logos haven't been re-applied.
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These captures also confirm that the CAF logos haven't been re-applied.
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I would prefer Chiltern 196s to have Chiltern interiors. However, I understand they will be on sub-lease from WMR, meaning they will have WMR interiors.
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Can anyone on the thread shed light as to whether the 196 lease has been extended or still due to end in 2026?
Unaware at present and can’t find much information on it.
EDIT: 31st March 2026
Unaware at present and can’t find much information on it.
EDIT: 31st March 2026
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196010 is route learning on the Camp Hill Line today which is expected to open in March 2026. It will be ironic if WMR open service on that line using Chiltern stock.
Liam L
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Was going to make the effort to go and see the training runs if it's 010 however a quick look on flicker it's still in WMR so I won't bother 
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