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My girl friend has a Disabled Person's Railcard. I often travel with her and also get the discount as an accompanying person. I've been looking at the T&Cs for the Railcard and I can't find the clear answer to two questions.

1. Can I book on the trainpal app a ticket for me, as an accompanying person, using the Disabled Person's Railcard or does she have to book both tickets on her's? Or perhaps it doesn't matter? I can see in condition 2.3 of the T&Cs that only the named cardholder can use the Railcard but I assume that is aimed at fraudulent use. I've been booking my own (only when travelling with her and where I'm entitled to the discount) and applying the Disabled Person's Railcard discount, but maybe I shouldn't be? I have a Network Railcard but in my booking history it would show that I've been using the Disabled Person's Railcard discount on peak fares when I don't have one on some occasions and then not on others (when I apply my Network Railcard) and I'm worried it might look suspicious. I can of course transfer her money and she books the tickets but I am curious whether it matters who books the tickets or whether this will likely flag some sort of suspected misuse if I contine to book my ticket.

2. It states "Only you and, where appropriate, the adult accompanying you, can use discounted tickets. The accompanying adult must travel with you throughout the journey." in 4.1. I can understand that if I was travelling further than her with the discount applied that this would be misuse but would that mean that I can't leave the train at an earlier stop as well? E.g. We both start our journey at Hove and buy two tickets with the Disabled Person's Railcard. But I want to get off at Chichester so buy a ticket to there and she is going on to Southampton Central. I am not traveling with her "throughout the journey" then. Do we have to make the exact same journey/booked the same tickets to be using the Railcard properly?
 
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My girl friend has a Disabled Person's Railcard. I often travel with her and also get the discount as an accompanying person. I've been looking at the T&Cs for the Railcard and I can't find the clear answer to two questions.

1. Can I book on the trainpal app a ticket for me, as an accompanying person, using the Disabled Person's Railcard or does she have to book both tickets on her's? Or perhaps it doesn't matter? I can see in condition 2.3 of the T&Cs that only the named cardholder can use the Railcard but I assume that is aimed at fraudulent use. I've been booking my own (only when travelling with her and where I'm entitled to the discount) and applying the Disabled Person's Railcard discount, but maybe I shouldn't be? I have a Network Railcard but in my booking history it would show that I've been using the Disabled Person's Railcard discount on peak fares when I don't have one on some occasions and then not on others (when I apply my Network Railcard) and I'm worried it might look suspicious. I can of course transfer her money and she books the tickets but I am curious whether it matters who books the tickets or whether this will likely flag some sort of suspected misuse if I contine to book my ticket.
Use the forum's site to book your discounted tickets. I do all the time, and I buy sometimes for friends too with different railcards: https://tickets.railforums.co.uk/

2. It states "Only you and, where appropriate, the adult accompanying you, can use discounted tickets. The accompanying adult must travel with you throughout the journey." in 4.1. I can understand that if I was travelling further than her with the discount applied that this would be misuse but would that mean that I can't leave the train at an earlier stop as well? E.g. We both start our journey at Hove and buy two tickets with the Disabled Person's Railcard. But I want to get off at Chichester so buy a ticket to there and she is going on to Southampton Central. I am not traveling with her "throughout the journey" then. Do we have to make the exact same journey/booked the same tickets to be using the Railcard properly?
The intent of the rule is to allow a carer or companion to travel with you for the whole journey. Regardless, you will find it difficult to exit a station barrier without a Disabled Railcard on your person, so I recommend you travel for the entire journey. It's not really intended for the use case you outline here.
 

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1. Can I book on the trainpal app a ticket for me, as an accompanying person, using the Disabled Person's Railcard or does she have to book both tickets on her's? Or perhaps it doesn't matter? I can see in condition 2.3 of the T&Cs that only the named cardholder can use the Railcard but I assume that is aimed at fraudulent use. I've been booking my own (only when travelling with her and where I'm entitled to the discount) and applying the Disabled Person's Railcard discount, but maybe I shouldn't be? I have a Network Railcard but in my booking history it would show that I've been using the Disabled Person's Railcard discount on peak fares when I don't have one on some occasions and then not on others (when I apply my Network Railcard) and I'm worried it might look suspicious. I can of course transfer her money and she books the tickets but I am curious whether it matters who books the tickets or whether this will likely flag some sort of suspected misuse if I contine to book my ticket.
There is no requirement to hold the Railcard to buy the ticket, other than at a ticket office where the sale of a discounted ticket might be refused if you can't produce the corresponding Railcard.

Indeed you are perfectly entitled to buy tickets for (or on behalf of) other people, or to buy them and then sell them on (for no more than face value).

It is only during your journey that the legal requirement to able to produce the relevant Railcard applies.

2. It states "Only you and, where appropriate, the adult accompanying you, can use discounted tickets. The accompanying adult must travel with you throughout the journey." in 4.1. I can understand that if I was travelling further than her with the discount applied that this would be misuse but would that mean that I can't leave the train at an earlier stop as well? E.g. We both start our journey at Hove and buy two tickets with the Disabled Person's Railcard. But I want to get off at Chichester so buy a ticket to there and she is going on to Southampton Central. I am not traveling with her "throughout the journey" then. Do we have to make the exact same journey/booked the same tickets to be using the Railcard properly?
You would need to be able to produce the Railcard if there is an inspection when you leave the station, so in practical terms it would be wise for her to accompany you off the train at least as far as any gateline.
 

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Thanks both, makes sense (I hadn't factored in the barriers as an issue). I will also check out the forum booking site.
 
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