Class 810 for East Midlands Railway Construction/Introduction Updates

[tfw756rider]

EMR are hopeful for September this year for the first one to enter service, to allow for the first 222s to be released. Whether that actually happens remains to be seen...

Thanks, how recently did they say that?

 

[liamf656]

Thanks, how recently did they say that?

As recent as last week

 

[tfw756rider]

As recent as last week

Ah thanks, where was that?

 

[liamf656]

Ah thanks, where was that?

It was mentioned in a newsletter to staff

 

[tfw756rider]

It was mentioned in a newsletter to staff

Thanks

 

[Aspen90]

And the run today from Old Dalby to St Pancras was cancelled.

What did I say?! When will things just start to go to plan…

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I suppose better late than never…

 

[800001]

What did I say?! When will things just start to go to plan…

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I suppose better late than never…

That path was never planned to be used today for the driver training runs.

It is running Old Dalby to Bedford first, the. Various other paths today.
So, it is going to plan today.

 

[Aspen90]

That path was never planned to be used today for the driver training runs.

It is running Old Dalby to Bedford first, the. Various other paths today.
So, it is going to plan today.

Oh good. Hopefully I’ll see it out and about later. Fan of the livery though, just hope they keep these clean!

 

[800001]

Oh good. Hopefully I’ll see it out and about later. Fan of the livery though, just hope they keep these clean!

I think it’s actually the best livery carried on the 8XX fleets. It’s simple but looks classy.

 

[1D54]

So 5Q43 15:18 off STP is cancelled but a fair chance 5Q45 18:03 off BDM will be running?

 

[liamf656]

So 5Q43 15:18 off STP is cancelled but a fair chance 5Q45 18:03 off BDM will be running?

It's not showing as cancelled?

 

[1D54]

It's not showing as cancelled?

No but AFAIK there are not two of them running today.

We'll know in an hour.

 

[Class15]

5Q43 is showing on signal diagrams at St. Pancras!

 

[800001]

5Q43 is showing on signal diagrams at St. Pancras!

Post #3621 has the diagrams today so yes 5Q43 is correct.

Diagrams from post 3621
5Q40 Old Dalby- Corby Bedford pan up from Corby
5Q41 Bedford - Kettering pan up
5Q42 Kettering - St Pancras ( pan up to Bedford -pan up from Mil Hill Broadway)
Afternoon Tea 14:18-15:18 platform 3
5Q43 St Pancras - Leicester ( pan up to Mill Hill Broadway, pan up from Bedford -kettering
5Q44 Leicester -Bedford pan up from Kettering

5Q45 Bedford -Corby-Old Dalby pan up to corby

 

[1D54]

5Q43 is showing on signal diagrams at St. Pancras!

And it has departed.

 

[MrCub]

Arrived at Luton, stopped for about 10 minutes, doors tested (I think) and then departed

 

[midland1]

6H54 has sat down in front at Kettering, standing at red at Wellingborough.

 

[800001]

6H54 has sat down in front at Kettering, standing at red at Wellingborough.

And as you just sent your post, light given to move up to Kettering south junction. And to then cross over.

 

[midland1]

And as you just sent your post, light given to move up to Kettering south junction. And to then cross over.

That's right, got photos of 5Q43 and 5Q44 at Kilby Bridge Jn.

 

[Aspen90]

Saw them swap ends at Leicester to go back south - it looks great, only thing I noticed was the differentiation between 1st and standard is not very clear so boarding will be fun. The text is a silvery decal near the door saying ‘First Class’ but not very obvious at all. Other than that it looked spot on!

 

[43066]

The driver training started last week using a different unit at Old Dalby, using the test track there.
This weeks paths will be first on the Midland Mainline for EMR drivers (or managers).

A source has confirmed it’s not drivers or instructors, so likely managers or training school people. Nevertheless, a good step forward.

I like them aside from the seats in some of them. And the EMR ones really do look slick.

Agreed. I wasn’t sure about the bronze front on paper but it looks superb in the flesh.

 

[tsyxa]

Some photos of 810008 at Leicester

Must give credit to @TraceyDagley on twitter for these (https://x.com/traceydagley/status/1912191947151942027?s=46&t=qeyIOkv7b8GAcfL7u9XBaw), she’s also got a video of it leaving again on her profile

The full livery looks so nice, especially with the EMR badge on the front as opposed to a vinyl which was what I was expecting

 

[800001]

A source has confirmed it’s not drivers or instructors, so likely managers or training school people. Nevertheless, a good step forward.



Agreed. I wasn’t sure about the bronze front on paper but it looks superb in the flesh.

It is Driver train the trainer! So they are drivers!

 

[43066]

It is Driver train the trainer! So they are drivers!

Obviously they are drivers but not “regular” EMR drivers or driver instructors - that has been asked and answered internally. There’s still no agreement with ASLEF as yet, and no training course in place.

Managers, training school people, as stated several times. Clearly getting them skilled up has to happen before a wider training program can commence.

 

[Aspen90]

Academy staff on it this week for sure, I saw them but not sure what actual drivers were on board, I only saw GBRF drivers for the brief time I was near the unit.

 

[Edvid]

Going by RTT both the 5Q4x and 5Q2x paths are in use today.

 

[Aspen90]

Just gone through Kettering now on the up slow.

 

[The_Train]

So after all of the excitement about these paths being used for actual crew training, it is just for training of trainers?

 

[bunnahabhain]

So after all of the excitement about these paths being used for actual crew training, it is just for training of trainers?

Yes, but that is the start of crew training, you have to train the trainer before you can train the crew.

 

[The_Train]

Yes, but that is the start of crew training, you have to train the trainer before you can train the crew.

I would class "crew training" as being the training of people who are actually going to work on the trains every day. I would class training for those who are going to train the crew as more akin to "train the trainer" but eh ho. Everything has to start somewhere