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GBRF confirms conversion of Class 56s to Class 69s

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Ashley Hill

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Sorry, but the front just doesn't look right without a 4-character headcode panel.
Well, I can’t have everything.

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Whiskers? Did someone say DP1 DELTIC for the next slass 69 "heritage" livery? ;) :D
It may work,I’d go along with that just for the novelty factor.
 

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Whiskers? Did someone say DP1 DELTIC for the next class 69 "heritage" livery? ;) :D
Now there's a thought... yes please! (provided it has the proper bodyside lining and full set of whiskers on each nose).

The problem with some 'heritage' liveries is that they were originally designed for particular loco types and don't adapt well to others. Various US railroads have done a good few 'heritage' liveried locos and IMHO, some work well and some others don't - below is one I think works well, as the horizontal black and yellow bands plus the (long-gone railroad) name stretched out along the side really emphasize the 74' length of the SD70ACe loco:

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Is Hawker Siddley the name of the operator?
as per your googling, they’re not an operator, but they were the parent company of Brush Traction and Brush Electrical Machines when the Class 56s were being constructed.
 

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as per your googling, they’re not an operator, but they were the parent company of Brush Traction and Brush Electrical Machines when the Class 56s were being constructed.
Thanks. I didn't know that at the time i wrote the original post. I've lived in Ireland for years and not au fait with British Railways anymore.
 

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Oh yeah, just realised myself, the Hawker Siddeley logo looks like computer text now I look at it. Fooled me though!
Not sure what you mean? The font on the 69, looks spot on.
Here's the original font on HS4000  Kestrel (both of the linked photos will enlarge to good size when clicked on)
 

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Not sure what you mean? The font on the 69, looks spot on.
Here's the original font on HS4000  Kestrel (both of the linked photos will enlarge to good size when clicked on)
The photoshop has evidently been very neatly done, but the text looks a tiny bit pixelated, and the number 69014 is not rotated to fit the body side - therefore it looks AI generated.
 
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Look at the cab roof - the picture has an old aerial bracket remaining, but the actual loco doesn't have this.

I was taken in initially - it's very well done!
 

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I think this is the original 69004 photo:

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...and this is the one up-thread:

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Note how all the background (especially the clouds) is identical in both pictures, as is the loco positioning. A very good photo editing job though - I was certainly fooled by it :)
 
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I think this is the original 69004 photo:

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Good sleuthing. 8-)

That explains why the sky looked so much better than a) the Met Office's info and b) conditions today on the Hampshire / West Sussex coast.

Now... GBRf, can we please have a 69 in DP1 DELTIC finery? Failing that, one in the D&RGW "pinstripe" colours or in SP's "black widow" scheme.
 
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Ultimately some will always disagree, but I would go with original.
When 56135 appeared on the front cover of Rail Enthusiast, I was initially taken aback. I was a big fan of large logo (56133 "Crewe Locomotive Works" was not long out; it looked superb)
 
But I was swayed when seeing pairs of RF 56s on Llanwern ore services.
Let's 'ave it!
 
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