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Halish Railway

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Does anyone know how the modifications to the internal door controls in the Class 333 toilets are coming along, if they are? The door on 333003 seems to be misbehaving, i.e. when you press the door close button it suddenly reopens when it finishes closing instead of locking, which meant I had to hold the door shut until it locked. Certainly having a separate door lock button would clear any doubt if this happened and would prevent people locking the toilet out when leaving it and closing the door from the inside.
 
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Halish Railway said:
Does anyone know how the modifications to the internal door controls in the Class 333 toilets are coming along, if they are?
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On hold as part of a proposed wider package of mods.
Halish Railway said:
The door on 333003 seems to be misbehaving, i.e. when you press the door close button it suddenly reopens when it finishes closing instead of locking, which meant I had to hold the door shut until it locked.
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The mechanism has gone a bit out of calibration so is detecting an obstacle where there isn't one. 195/331s do a similar thing. It just needs the door setting up again but depends if anyone has noticed it or bothered reporting it.

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On hold as part of a proposed wider package of mods.

The mechanism has gone a bit out of calibration so is detecting an obstacle where there isn't one. 195/331s do a similar thing. It just needs the door setting up again but depends if anyone has noticed it or bothered reporting it.

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158755 was in passenger service on the 14th and 15th
 
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One for diligentdave any dates for when 150109, 150114,150218 will return from Wolverton and Brodies. MTIA

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Just noted there is a 5N31 is for Saturday from Wolverton to Newton Heath and a 5H71 return. So one coming back this Saturday by the looks of it.
 
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One for diligentdave any dates for when 150109, 150114,150218 will return from Wolverton and Brodies. MTIA

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Just noted there is a 5N31 is for Saturday from Wolverton to Newton Heath and a 5H71 return. So one coming back this Saturday by the looks of it.
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150114 is due out of Wolverton next week (27th or the 28th). It's not ready for the 5N31 move on Saturday.

150218 is expected to be released in March (just before it's 1st birthday in Kilmarnock). Judging by how far they have got with the final rebuild when I was there last week I would say that's optimistic.

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Anyone know what’s happened to 323237?
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Still being used as a training unit at Wigan.
 
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Realtime Trains | 5N32 1414 Wolverton Centre Sidings to Newton Heath T.M.D. | 27/02/2025

Real-time train running information for 5N32 1414 departure from Wolverton Centre Sidings to Newton Heath T.M.D. on 27/02/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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Realtime Trains | 5H71 1125 Newton Heath T.M.D. to Wolverton Centre Sidings | 28/02/2025

Real-time train running information for 5H71 1125 departure from Newton Heath T.M.D. to Wolverton Centre Sidings on 28/02/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
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The CAF trains have more new voices, counted 3 on my 331, one for the next stop is Leeds, another Scottish sounding voice for keep your luggage with you and a 3rd voice apologising for the delay, all automated
 
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The CAF trains have more new voices, counted 3 on my 331, one for the next stop is Leeds, another Scottish sounding voice for keep your luggage with you and a 3rd voice apologising for the delay, all automated
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Was wondering when someone would mention this :D
 
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Adam0984 said:
The CAF trains have more new voices, counted 3 on my 331, one for the next stop is Leeds, another Scottish sounding voice for keep your luggage with you and a 3rd voice apologising for the delay, all automated
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Yes just noticed the same on a 195 from Chester to Leeds.
 
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Adam0984 said:
The CAF trains have more new voices, counted 3 on my 331, one for the next stop is Leeds, another Scottish sounding voice for keep your luggage with you and a 3rd voice apologising for the delay, all automated
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Yeah I've heard a myriad of new voices travelling from Manchester to Liverpool yesterday evening. It just feels like a right mess. I'm half-tempted to send over samples of my own voice announcements just to further add to confusion as it feels a little bit like a free for all now.
 
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Yeah I've heard a myriad of new voices travelling from Manchester to Liverpool yesterday evening. It just feels like a right mess. I'm half-tempted to send over samples of my own voice announcements just to further add to confusion as it feels a little bit like a free for all now.
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Every station in a different voice and accent
 
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DB wins Northern Class 333 upgrade work contract

DB ESG has announced that they have won the contract for the turnkey materials supply and installation of the upgrades to the Passenger Information Screens and Energy Metering on Northern Class 333s.
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DB ESG has announced that they have won the contract for the turnkey materials supply and installation of the upgrades to the Passenger Information Screens and Energy Metering on Northern Class 333s.

16 Class 333 EMUs will be upgraded at Northern’s Skipton Sidings Facility.

Each unit will be completed in three days, thanks to DB’s experience.

It is expected the work will be finished by June 2025.
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This upgrade has been a long time in the coming.
 
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reecestrains said:
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DB wins Northern Class 333 upgrade work contract

DB ESG has announced that they have won the contract for the turnkey materials supply and installation of the upgrades to the Passenger Information Screens and Energy Metering on Northern Class 333s.
www.railadvent.co.uk www.railadvent.co.uk
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What's "energy metering" in this context?

This is likely an end to "Welcome to the Skipton train!" and the introduction of much more waffle that the current system isn't capable of saying, e.g. don't forget your head, rain is wet etc?
 
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DB wins Northern Class 333 upgrade work contract

DB ESG has announced that they have won the contract for the turnkey materials supply and installation of the upgrades to the Passenger Information Screens and Energy Metering on Northern Class 333s.
www.railadvent.co.uk www.railadvent.co.uk


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This upgrade has been a long time in the coming.
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Any idea about when this work is expected to start?

Will the new PIS be Train fx, or will it be a completley different system?

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What's "energy metering" in this context?

This is likely an end to "Welcome to the Skipton train!" and the introduction of much more waffle that the current system isn't capable of saying, e.g. don't forget your head, rain is wet etc?
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sadly :(. I hope i can get one to Doncaster before the old announcements go
 
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Any idea about when this work is expected to start?
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Very soon I would think.
Will the new PIS be Train fx, or will it be a completley different system?
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Knowing Northern's habits of PIS, probably TrainFX. But we'll see when it happens.
sadly :(. I hope i can get one to Doncaster before the old announcements go
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I'm sure there'll still be some units that'll have them as it's end of June they'll all be done.

I'll be fully determined to ride one to Doncaster before the older announcements are gone.
 
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I very much doubt that all 16 will be done in 2 months, that's 2 a week. As soon as they're diagrammed on the Doncaster line get them ticked off as it'll get harder as more units are converted
 
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I very much doubt that all 16 will be done in 2 months, that's 2 a week. As soon as they're diagrammed on the Doncaster line get them ticked off as it'll get harder as more units are converted
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Absolutely, I will be monitoring very closely and when an opportunity comes up, I'm going for it no matter what it takes.

I won't be letting this slide.
 
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