Notice of Intention to prosecute

[Fawkes Cat]

Can you please mention which draft are you mentioning.

Post #82

 

[vijay001]

Yes. Pause 24 hours or so before sending this (they won’t be working at the weekend anyway). I have some amendments to suggest but am not on my computer at the moment and can not easily do them on my phone until tomorrow

Others might also be able suggest a few points to make.

I am waiting for your reply mate. Is this fine or anyone giving any suggestions to add, please tell me guys Thank you.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to formally request the opportunity to settle my second offence out of court. I understand the seriousness of the matter and deeply regret my actions. I sincerely apologise for any convenience caused and take full responsibility for my illejudged action.

I was recently informed that a decision regarding my second case will be made after the outcome of my first case in court. However, I would like to highlight that I am a student, and a court conviction could severely impact my future, including my career prospects, immigration opportunities and visas Additionally, my visa expires very soon . As I am due to leave the UK this month and never return back, it would be challenging for me to address this matter at a later date.

Given these circumstances, I am fully prepared to pay any outstanding fare, penalties, and administrative costs required to resolve this matter amicably. I respectfully request your consideration for an out-of-court settlement, allowing me to rectify my actions without long-term legal consequences.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

 

[WesternLancer]

I am waiting for your reply mate. Is this fine or anyone giving any suggestions to add, please tell me guys Thank you.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to formally request the opportunity to settle my second offence out of court. I understand the seriousness of the matter and deeply regret my actions. I sincerely apologise for any convenience caused and take full responsibility for my illejudged action.

I was recently informed that a decision regarding my second case will be made after the outcome of my first case in court. However, I would like to highlight that I am a student, and a court conviction could severely impact my future, including my career prospects, immigration opportunities and visas Additionally, my visa expires very soon . As I am due to leave the UK this month and never return back, it would be challenging for me to address this matter at a later date.

Given these circumstances, I am fully prepared to pay any outstanding fare, penalties, and administrative costs required to resolve this matter amicably. I respectfully request your consideration for an out-of-court settlement, allowing me to rectify my actions without long-term legal consequences.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

Looks good. It might be worth adding at the end to reinforce that u are leaving the uk the following:

‘As I am required to leave the UK imminently due to my visa expiry I am keen to resolve all outstanding matters as promptly as possible and I would be grateful if you could take this into consideration. I do not believe I would be able to attend a future court date because I would not expect to have a visa to return to the uk.

After xx date I can be contacted at this address xxxxxx or via e mail (insert e mail address)’

Yours sincerely etc’

And give them your postal address abroad which will help them understand you’re not going to be in the uk very shortly.

 

[vijay001]

Looks good. It might be worth adding at the end to reinforce that u are leaving the uk the following:

‘As I am required to leave the UK imminently due to my visa expiry I am keen to resolve all outstanding matters as promptly as possible and I would be grateful if you could take this into consideration. I do not believe I would be able to attend a future court date because I would not expect to have a visa to return to the uk.

After xx date I can be contacted at this address xxxxxx or via e mail (insert e mail address)’

Yours sincerely etc’

And give them your postal address abroad which will help them understand you’re not going to be in the uk very shortly.

Final one.! Here the draft


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to formally request the opportunity to settle my second offence out of court. I understand the seriousness of the matter and deeply regret my actions. I sincerely apologise for any convenience caused and take full responsibility for my illjudged action.

I was recently informed that a decision regarding my second case will be made after the outcome of my first case in court. However, I would like to highlight that I am a student, and a court conviction could severely impact my future, including my career prospects, immigration opportunities and visas Additionally, my visa expires very soon . As I am due to leave the UK this month and never return back, it would be challenging for me to address this matter at a later date.

Given these circumstances, I am fully prepared to pay any outstanding fare, penalties, and administrative costs required to resolve this matter amicably. I respectfully request your consideration for an out-of-court settlement, allowing me to rectify my actions without long-term legal consequences.

‘As I am required to leave the UK imminently due to my visa expiry I am keen to resolve all outstanding matters as promptly as possible and I would be grateful if you could take this into consideration. I do not believe I would be able to attend a future court date because I would not expect to have a visa to return to the uk
After February I can be contacted at this address xxxxxx or via e mail (insert e mail address)’.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

 

[WesternLancer]

Final one.! Here the draft


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to formally request the opportunity to settle my second offence out of court. I understand the seriousness of the matter and deeply regret my actions. I sincerely apologise for any convenience caused and take full responsibility for my illjudged action.

I was recently informed that a decision regarding my second case will be made after the outcome of my first case in court. However, I would like to highlight that I am a student, and a court conviction could severely impact my future, including my career prospects, immigration opportunities and visas Additionally, my visa expires very soon . As I am due to leave the UK this month and never return back, it would be challenging for me to address this matter at a later date.

Given these circumstances, I am fully prepared to pay any outstanding fare, penalties, and administrative costs required to resolve this matter amicably. I respectfully request your consideration for an out-of-court settlement, allowing me to rectify my actions without long-term legal consequences.

‘As I am required to leave the UK imminently due to my visa expiry I am keen to resolve all outstanding matters as promptly as possible and I would be grateful if you could take this into consideration. I do not believe I would be able to attend a future court date because I would not expect to have a visa to return to the uk
After February I can be contacted at this address xxxxxx or via e mail (insert e mail address)’.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely,

You just need to remove the single inverted commas from the section I suggested you add, that you have left in at the start and end. This punctuation symbol ‘

And of course insert the postal and e mail address in the version you send.

 

[vijay001]

You just need to remove the single inverted commas from the section I suggested you add, that you have left in at the start and end. This punctuation symbol ‘

And of course insert the postal and e mail address in the version you send.

Okk fine. They will accept out of court settlement after this. If not what act they will proceed for my case?

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For my 1st case I received letter from court a week ago. So what happens next after the court date.


For your information, the above case has been listed for re-opening.

The case has been listed at Oxford Magistrates Court 75 on 19/02/2025,

You do not need to attend this court hearing.

If the court requires you to attend, your case will be adjourned to another date. You will be notified accordingly.

Regards

Elizabeth Jarvis

Pre-Court Team

Essex Magistrates Court | HMCTS | Osprey House | Chelmsford Essex

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Okk fine. They will accept out of court settlement after this. If not what act they will proceed for my case?

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For my 1st case I received letter from court a week ago. So what happens next after the court date.


For your information, the above case has been listed for re-opening.

The case has been listed at Oxford Magistrates Court 75 on 19/02/2025,

You do not need to attend this court hearing.

If the court requires you to attend, your case will be adjourned to another date. You will be notified accordingly.

Regards

Elizabeth Jarvis

Pre-Court Team

Essex Magistrates Court | HMCTS | Osprey House | Chelmsford Essex

Should I inform to court about my visa status and I am leaving country because its easy to finish the case ASAP. What should I do now?

 

[WesternLancer]

Okk fine. They will accept out of court settlement after this. If not what act they will proceed for my case?

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For my 1st case I received letter from court a week ago. So what happens next after the court date.


For your information, the above case has been listed for re-opening.

The case has been listed at Oxford Magistrates Court 75 on 19/02/2025,

You do not need to attend this court hearing.

If the court requires you to attend, your case will be adjourned to another date. You will be notified accordingly.

Regards

Elizabeth Jarvis

Pre-Court Team

Essex Magistrates Court | HMCTS | Osprey House | Chelmsford Essex

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Should I inform to court about my visa status and I am leaving country because its easy to finish the case ASAP. What should I do now?

On your last point. I’m not sure how courts deal with situations where an accused is required to leave the country for reasons like visa expiry before the court date. It must happen from time to time.

It maybe that someone on the forum with knowledge of court procedures can offer some information on this.

It may well be that you should contact the Pre Court team who have sent that letter to explain that you have to leave the country and indeed have received written request to leave the uk.

 

[vijay001]

On your last point. I’m not sure how courts deal with situations where an accused is required to leave the country for reasons like visa expiry before the court date. It must happen from time to time.

It maybe that someone on the forum with knowledge of court procedures can offer some information on this.

It may well be that you should contact the Pre Court team who have sent that letter to explain that you have to leave the country and indeed have received written request to leave the uk.

No one is replying for my messages and I am still worried about my future due to court proceedings. Please anyone give some advice about resolve this. Thank you.

 

[WesternLancer]

No one is replying for my messages and I am still worried about my future due to court proceedings. Please anyone give some advice about resolve this. Thank you.

@Puffing Devil or @island often give well informed advice on court related process so may know what happens in cases where a person who has a court case against them has been required to leave the uk.

 

[vijay001]

@Puffing Devil or @island often give well informed advice on court related process so may know what happens in cases where a person who has a court case against them has been required to leave the uk.

Should I ask out of court settlement for the case 1 . Is this possible and I don't know the reference number for case 1 and court reopening the case again I submitted the appeal. So reopening by coming Wednesday. So I ask out of court settlement for this or not is this possible still. And can anyone what to add in draft for case 1 for out of court settlement .?

 

[WesternLancer]

Should I ask out of court settlement for the case 1 . Is this possible and I don't know the reference number for case 1 and court reopening the case again I submitted the appeal. So reopening by coming Wednesday. So I ask out of court settlement for this or not is this possible still. And can anyone what to add in draft for case 1 for out of court settlement .?

Is both case 1 and case 2 with the same railway company? Can you state which railway company? Is it GTR for both cases.

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Should I ask out of court settlement for the case 1 . Is this possible and I don't know the reference number for case 1 and court reopening the case again I submitted the appeal. So reopening by coming Wednesday. So I ask out of court settlement for this or not is this possible still. And can anyone what to add in draft for case 1 for out of court settlement .?

My view on the draft letter you have prepared is that it is essentially a request to settle out of court - so if you get that sent to them you can see what they say.

However, if this is all extremely critical to you, you may need to think seriously about getting the help of a solicitor to sort it out, given the aspects of your case that make it more complex, like you being asked to leave the UK by UK Visa and Immigration service. Of course there would be fees from the solicitor for such help.

 

[vijay001]

Is both case 1 and case 2 with the same railway company? Can you state which railway company? Is it GTR for both cases.

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My view on the draft letter you have prepared is that it is essentially a request to settle out of court - so if you get that sent to them you can see what they say.

However, if this is all extremely critical to you, you may need to think seriously about getting the help of a solicitor to sort it out, given the aspects of your case that make it more complex, like you being asked to leave the UK by UK Visa and Immigration service. Of course there would be fees from the solicitor for such help.

Yes both cases dealing by GTR.

I don't have any solicitor contact. And I don't have that much amount to spend and I am student. So wait until Wednesday for case 1 outcome. And today I send the request letter to prosecution department.still now no response from the team. Should I call one more time,So anything I want to do in the meantime?

 

[WesternLancer]

Yes both cases dealing by GTR.

I don't have any solicitor contact. And I don't have that much amount to spend and I am student. So wait until Wednesday for case 1 outcome. And today I send the request letter to prosecution department.still now no response from the team. Should I call one more time,So anything I want to do in the meantime?

If you have sent them the e-mail I personally can see no point in telephoning them again.

You may simply have to wait for Wednesday case 1 to see how that plays out.

It might be possible for you to go to the court early on the day and seek out the Prosecutor acting for the the railway company when you get to the court and explain the situation to them and ask if they are prepared to settle the matter out of court at the last minute. You would almost certainly have to have funds available to pay the settlement sum they may ask for immediately, if they were prepared to offer that option.

You would of course have to get to the court concerned in good time, and you may have to be prepared to wait there much of the day to speak to the prosecutor. And it may not work.

 

[vijay001]

If you have sent them the e-mail I personally can see no point in telephoning them again.

You may simply have to wait for Wednesday case 1 to see how that plays out.

It might be possible for you to go to the court early on the day and seek out the Prosecutor acting for the the railway company when you get to the court and explain the situation to them and ask if they are prepared to settle the matter out of court at the last minute. You would almost certainly have to have funds available to pay the settlement sum they may ask for immediately, if they were prepared to offer that option.

You would of course have to get to the court concerned in good time, and you may have to be prepared to wait there much of the day to speak to the prosecutor. And it may not work.

I no need to attend the court on Wednesday. If anything else they call me with another date. And should I call pre court team to speak about I am preparing to pay out of court settlement immediately.

 

[WesternLancer]

I no need to attend the court on Wednesday.

Then I suspect the court will issue you with a guilty sentence for the case they are hearing

If anything else they Will me.

Sorry - this is not written clearly. I do not understand it

And should I call pre court team to speak about I am preparing to pay out of court settlement immediately.

I do not think the Pre Court team at the Court will be involved in an out of court settlement for the case on Wednesday, unless you have agreed an out of court settlement with the railway company before Wednesday - ie if you agree one with the railway company tomorrow Tuesday 18th Feb and so far from your report of ringing the railway company they don't seem minded to agree to an out of court settlement with you for the case listed for Wednesday 19th feb.

 

[vijay001]

Then I suspect the court will issue you with a guilty sentence for the case they are hearing


Sorry - this is not written clearly. I do not understand it


I do not think the Pre Court team at the Court will be involved in an out of court settlement for the case on Wednesday, unless you have agreed an out of court settlement with the railway company before Wednesday - ie if you agree one with the railway company tomorrow Tuesday 18th Feb and so far from your report of ringing the railway company they don't seem minded to agree to an out of court settlement with you for the case listed for Wednesday 19th feb.

What is guilty sentence can you explain more about this please

Here is the email I got

 

[WesternLancer]

What is guilty sentence can you explain more about this please

Here is the email I got

You can look up what guilty means on the internet.

A guilty sentence is what will happen if the court decides you did what you are being accused of (ie travel without a valid ticket - which you say that you did in post #1) so they will consider what you are accused of and reach a verdict which would be guilty or not guilty. After the court decides on a verdict, if it is guilty they will pass a sentence, which is the punishment - in this sort of case that will be a fine, plus a victim surcharge. There is a record of this, which is usually called a 'criminal record'

Unless what is happening on 19th feb at court is for some other matter?

 

[vijay001]

You can look up what guilty means on the internet.

A guilty sentence is what will happen if the court decides you did what you are being accused of (ie travel without a valid ticket - which you say that you did in post #1) so they will consider what you are accused of and reach a verdict which would be guilty or not guilty. After the court decides on a verdict, if it is guilty they will pass a sentence, which is the punishment - in this sort of case that will be a fine, plus a victim surcharge. There is a record of this, which is usually called a 'criminal record'

Unless what is happening on 19th feb at court is for some other matter?

If this criminal records it will available in public record . And it is minor offences right? And it shows in DBs check. So I no need to want criminal records so what should to do avoid this?

 

[WesternLancer]

If this criminal records it will available in public record .

Yes

And it is minor offences right?

relatively minor I would say

And it shows in DBs check.

I don't know but presumably yes

So I no need to want criminal records so what should to do avoid this?

a) don't break any criminal laws
b) don't travel without valid tickets as this is criminal offence
c) try to agree an out of court settlement before a case is heard in court - or employ a solicitor to try to do this for you - such as this firm

Fare Evasion Solicitors

Skilled legal defence for fare evasion cases. Rely on our experienced team to protect your rights, challenge penalties, and guide you through the process.

manaksolicitors.co.uk

 

[vijay001]

Yes

relatively minor I would say

I don't know but presumably yes


a) don't break any criminal laws
b) don't travel without valid tickets as this is criminal offence
c) try to agree an out of court settlement before a case is heard in court - or employ a solicitor to try to do this for you - such as this firm

Fare Evasion Solicitors

Skilled legal defence for fare evasion cases. Rely on our experienced team to protect your rights, challenge penalties, and guide you through the process.

manaksolicitors.co.uk

Option c . how can I approach out of court settlement before the court hearing Wednesday. Can you guide me here. How to do

 

[Puffing Devil]

It looks like it's purely an admin hearing on Wednesday, as the court has said they do not require your attendance. Unless GWR objects, I suspect that the matter will be adjourned to a future date, some time off.

Contact the court on Tuesday to let them know that you have been ordered to leave the country and will be complying with the directions by the end of the month. Let them have a copy/scan of the letter you have directing you to leave the UK.

Give them an email and, if possible, a stable postal address in your country for contact purposes.

You should be able to reach them at the email address that you received the notification on.

The ball is now very much in the prosecutor's court.

 

[vijay001]

It looks like it's purely an admin hearing on Wednesday, as the court has said they do not require your attendance. Unless GWR objects, I suspect that the matter will be adjourned to a future date, some time off.

Contact the court on Tuesday to let them know that you have been ordered to leave the country and will be complying with the directions by the end of the month. Let them have a copy/scan of the letter you have directing you to leave the UK.

Give them an email and, if possible, a stable postal address in your country for contact purposes.

You should be able to reach them at the email address that you received the notification on.

The ball is now very much in the prosecutor's court.

I will contact the court by tomorrow about this matter. If I say my situation about to leave the UK they will finish the case soon or? It will go to another date. What about the outcome of the case. And it will register in criminal conviction ? And what about my case 2 . They said it will based on case 1 outcome.

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It looks like it's purely an admin hearing on Wednesday, as the court has said they do not require your attendance. Unless GWR objects, I suspect that the matter will be adjourned to a future date, some time off.

Contact the court on Tuesday to let them know that you have been ordered to leave the country and will be complying with the directions by the end of the month. Let them have a copy/scan of the letter you have directing you to leave the UK.

Give them an email and, if possible, a stable postal address in your country for contact purposes.

You should be able to reach them at the email address that you received the notification on.

The ball is now very much in the prosecutor's court.

Anything I need to change.here is the draft.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing regarding the reopening of my case [Case Number], which I understand is currently being reconsidered by the court. I sincerely regret the circumstances that led to this situation and would like to request that the case be resolved as soon as possible.

Reason for Urgent Resolution

I am currently on a visa that is set to expire soon, and I will be leaving the UK permanently. Given this, I respectfully request that the court expedite the hearing or allow me to resolve the matter without delay, ensuring that no legal or administrative issues remain upon my departure.

Request for Out-of-Court Settlement

Additionally, I am willing to settle this matter out of court by paying any necessary fines and administrative costs to avoid further proceedings. If this option is available, please provide the necessary details so that I can arrange payment immediately.

I deeply regret any misunderstanding that led to this case and appreciate your consideration of my request. Please let me know the next steps or any further information you require from me.

Thank you for your time and consideration .I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]

 

[Puffing Devil]

I will contact the court by tomorrow about this matter. If I say my situation about to leave the UK they will finish the case soon or? It will go to another date. What about the outcome of the case. And it will register in criminal conviction ? And what about my case 2 . They said it will based on case 1 outcome.

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Anything I need to change.here is the draft.

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing regarding the reopening of my case [Case Number], which I understand is currently being reconsidered by the court. I sincerely regret the circumstances that led to this situation and would like to request that the case be resolved as soon as possible.

Reason for Urgent Resolution

I am currently on a visa that is set to expire soon, and I will be leaving the UK permanently. Given this, I respectfully request that the court expedite the hearing or allow me to resolve the matter without delay, ensuring that no legal or administrative issues remain upon my departure.

Request for Out-of-Court Settlement

Additionally, I am willing to settle this matter out of court by paying any necessary fines and administrative costs to avoid further proceedings. If this option is available, please provide the necessary details so that I can arrange payment immediately.

I deeply regret any misunderstanding that led to this case and appreciate your consideration of my request. Please let me know the next steps or any further information you require from me.

Thank you for your time and consideration .I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,
[Your Name]

- Give them the date of the hearing and any reference number
- Delete the whole section asking for an out-of-court settlement - this has nothing to do with the court, and they are not concerned. The prosecution may pick up on this, but you have already contacted them.

 

[vijay001]

- Give them the date of the hearing and any reference number
- Delete the whole section asking for an out-of-court settlement - this has nothing to do with the court, and they are not concerned. The prosecution may pick up on this, but you have already contacted them.

Okk I change everything what you mentioned above. Anything I need to include. After this what will happen they finish the case soon or it will go to some other date?

 

[Puffing Devil]

Okk I change everything what you mentioned above. Anything I need to include. After this what will happen they finish the case soon or it will go to some other date?

The court will inform you of the outcome of the hearing on Wednesday. You'll need to wait for that for a decision.

You could email on Thursday if you've not heard.

 

[WesternLancer]

The court will inform you of the outcome of the hearing on Wednesday. You'll need to wait for that for a decision.

You could email on Thursday if you've not heard.

Thank you for posting what looks like very helpful advice and information for vijay001 to make use of.

 

[pedr]

I don't think we can be sure, but it seems likely that the outcome of the hearing on Wednesday will be that the case is re-opened, with future hearings to be arranged. The court wouldn't say you do not need to attend if there are arguments you could make against an outcome which would not be to your benefit. So, unless they've already been told that the case is being withdrawn (which seems unlikely from the other correspondence) then Wednesday won't be the end of case 1. I don't think there is anything the Court Service can do tomorrow in relation to this - it's going to be dealt with in some kind of hearing on Wednesday by magistrates.

 

[vijay001]

I don't think we can be sure, but it seems likely that the outcome of the hearing on Wednesday will be that the case is re-opened, with future hearings to be arranged. The court wouldn't say you do not need to attend if there are arguments you could make against an outcome which would not be to your benefit. So, unless they've already been told that the case is being withdrawn (which seems unlikely from the other correspondence) then Wednesday won't be the end of case 1. I don't think there is anything the Court Service can do tomorrow in relation to this - it's going to be dealt with in some kind of hearing on Wednesday by magistrates.

I didn't get any outcome letter from court or anyone. I am still waiting. What should I do now wait until today?

 

[tonycockram]

The court date was yesterday. It will take a little time to respond to you. You could maybe chase the toc once again to see what they are saying now, following your letter and the details that they said earlier.

 

[vijay001]

The court date was yesterday. It will take a little time to respond to you. You could maybe chase the toc once again to see what they are saying now, following your letter and the details that they said earlier.

Who should I ask prosecution department or court. What should I ask in following mail can you draft me to send because I don't have any idea about this.

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Who should I ask prosecution department or court. What should I ask in following mail can you draft me to send because I don't have any idea about this.

Hello everyone can you help me to what should I do now?