Class 701 'Aventra' trains for South Western Railway: progress updates

[Towers]

One of the two diagrams has been reinstated with a pair of 455s. Ignore the "This service is cancelled." which is a problem RTT has with VSTP cancelled and subsequently VSTP re-instated trains. You can see from the actual timings that it dud run.

Realtime Trains | 2O17 0917 London Waterloo to London Waterloo | 15/12/2024

Real-time train running information for 2O17 0917 departure from London Waterloo to London Waterloo on 15/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Presumably the issue was in fact a shortage of appropriately trained drivers, then?

 

[Goldfish62]

Presumably the issue was in fact a shortage of appropriately trained drivers, then?

Would seem the obvious explanation.

 

[OneTrackMinded]

Realtime Trains | 1U36 1234 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo | 15/12/2024

Real-time train running information for 1U36 1234 departure from Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo on 15/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[Olivine]

Same as many other operators. It's pretty wretched at the moment, but that's another topic.

Loads of people off everywhere on the sick too.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Class 701 Diagrams in the new timetable as of tomorrow. Weekend diagrams obviously very much subject to change with engineering work.

Monday to Friday
5U08 0520 Feltham Depot to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U08 0553 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U11 0703 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
..............

5U07 0550 Feltham Depot to Twickenham
2U07 0627 Twickenham to Windsor & Eton Riverside
2U14 0726 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo
2U17 0833 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
................

5H89 0443 Strawberry Hill Depot to Shepperton
2H90 0523 Shepperton to London Waterloo
........................

5H08 0518 Strawberry Hill Depot to Teddington
2H08 0543 Teddington to London Waterloo
2H07 0642 London Waterloo to Shepperton
.......................

5U09 0540 Wimbledon Park Depot Sidings to London Waterloo
2U09 0633 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
........................

5J90 0635 Wimbledon Park Depot Sidings to London Waterloo
5J92 0707 London Waterloo to Surbiton
2J92 0752 Surbiton to London Waterloo
......................

First day of the diagrams with 2U08 and 2H08
2U07/14 did not run: the rest of the diagram is being run with the unit off 2J92 (701017)
2H08 did not run - diagram started with 2H07 (701037)

But 2u19 and 2u21 (0903 and 0933 Wat-Windsor) both shown as cancelled, meaning a 90 minute gap on the Windsor line)

 

[Goldfish62]

First day of the diagrams with 2U08 and 2H08
2U07/14 did not run: the rest of the diagram is being run with the unit off 2J92 (701017)
2H08 did not run - diagram started with 2H07 (701037)

But 2u19 and 2u21 (0903 and 0933 Wat-Windsor) both shown as cancelled, meaning a 90 minute gap on the Windsor line)

Quite a few cancellations again today across the network due to staff shortages.

 

[swtrains]

Testing today:

5T91 - Clapham Yard - Waterloo - normal.
5T92 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Goes to Chessington South, then to Wimbledon, before reversing and going back to Chessington South, then heads back to Waterloo.
5T93 - Waterloo - Clapham Yard - Goes to Epsom, then Epsom Down Sidings and repeats 3 more times, before heading back to Clapham Yard.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Q08971/2024-12-16/detailed#allox_id=0

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Q08969/2024-12-16/detailed

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Q08967/2024-12-16/detailed

 

[gmaguire]

Testing today:

5T91 - Clapham Yard - Waterloo - normal.
5T92 - Waterloo - Waterloo - Goes to Chessington South, then to Wimbledon, before reversing and going back to Chessington South, then heads back to Waterloo.
5T93 - Waterloo - Clapham Yard - Goes to Epsom, then Epsom Down Sidings and repeats 3 more times, before heading back to Clapham Yard.

I saw 701035 pass through platform 3 at CLJ about 7 minutes ago. Had the test thingies in the doors.

 

[NSEWonderer]

I saw 701035 pass through platform 3 at CLJ about 7 minutes ago. Had the test thingies in the doors.

Realtime Trains | 5Q24 1527 London Waterloo to London Waterloo | 16/12/2024

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Looks like it's first time out on testing since 2023 unless someone knows more? Was stabled at Feltham the last I remember.

 

[OneTrackMinded]

Realtime Trains | 5Q24 1527 London Waterloo to London Waterloo | 16/12/2024

Real-time train running information for 5Q24 1527 departure from London Waterloo to London Waterloo on 16/12/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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Looks like it's first time out on testing since 2023 unless someone knows more? Was stabled at Feltham the last I remember.

It’s good to see units previously out of use going through testing and subsequently being used in service. I still remember the good old days of 701043’s reign

 

[norbitonflyer]

It’s good to see units previously out of use going through testing and subsequently being used in service. I still remember the good old days of 701043’s reign

It still seems to be the same half dozen, (017, 031, 036, 037, 039, 043) although not all of them every day (043 wasn't used today for example)

Only one of the two evening Shepperton diagrams happened this evening (2H93 etc were run by a single 450) and the evening Windsor diagram starting 2U45 missed its first round trip, before being taken over by the unit that had worked the 2Ux9 Windsor workings (which terminated 2U49 short at Staines and ran back ECS to Waterloo to take up 2U55)

 

[D365]

It still seems to be the same half dozen, (017, 031, 036, 037, 039, 043) although not all of them every day (043 wasn't used today for example)

The passenger allocations won't change quickly. Maybe more units will slowly come into 'squadron' service but don't expect variety for a long time.

 

[norbitonflyer]

It’s good to see units previously out of use going through testing and subsequently being used in service. I still remember the good old days of 701043’s reign

701043 and 701037 have both now been in passenger service on 97 different days

 

[swtrains]

Interesting that the midnight Shepperton has temporarily been changed to a 458 set.

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:Y19723/2024-12-16/detailed#allox_id=0

 

[norbitonflyer]

Again only five out today. The morning Windsor diagram that should start with 2U07 was cancelled. The first Shepperton - Waterloo run (2H08) was also missing, the diagram starting at Waterloo with 2H07

 

[Goldfish62]

Again only five out today. The morning Windsor diagram that should start with 2U07 was cancelled. The first Shepperton - Waterloo run (2H08) was also missing, the diagram starting at Waterloo with 2H07

Hardly surprising though, given the evident current staff shortages. Cancellations all over the shop today.

 

[norbitonflyer]

701039 taken out of serviuce at Clapham Junction while working 2U41 about 3pm today, leaving gaps in the Windsor service this evening. To make matters worse, the evening 701 diagram (2U45 etc) doesn't seem to have happened either, so there are only three trains in the circuit instead of five.

 

[Goldfish62]

701039 taken out of serviuce at Clapham Junction while working 2U41 about 3pm today, leaving gaps in the Windsor service this evening. To make matters worse, the evening 701 diagram (2U45 etc) doesn't seem to have happened either, so there are only three trains in the circuit instead of five.

That's not reflected on Journeycheck and RTT. There's one train cancelled in the circuit and 701017 and 701031 are on evening Windsor diagrams.

 

[norbitonflyer]

That's not reflected on Journeycheck and RTT. There's one train cancelled in the circuit and 701017 and 701031 are on evening Windsor diagrams.

That was what RTT showed when I posted, but some re-restering has taken place.

701031 worked 2H47 Waterloo to Shepperton, but the return working 2H56 was cancelled and it hasn't appeared on RTT since

The two shown on RTT on Windsor diagrams this evening are 701017 and 701036. 036 has been on it all day. 701017 took over the other diagram starting with 2U51, after 2U41 was terminated at Clapham Junction at 1450, unit 701039.

 

[Kite159]

031 was on the 21;33 Windsor train (2U69) this evening which unusually (?) used platform 6 at Vauxhall.

 

[swr444]

031 was on the 21;33 Windsor train (2U69) this evening which unusually (?) used platform 6 at Vauxhall.

Because it departed platform 6 at Waterloo. It is impossible for a train to get to the Windsor side from there. The next available junction is the one just before queenstown road from the down fast onto the Windsor lines

 

[SWT_USER]

701039 taken out of serviuce at Clapham Junction while working 2U41 about 3pm today, leaving gaps in the Windsor service this evening. To make matters worse, the evening 701 diagram (2U45 etc) doesn't seem to have happened either, so there are only three trains in the circuit instead of five.

I didn't catch the number but that must have been the one blocking platform 6 at Clapham when I was there earlier. It still had Windsor on all the displays so there were some confused passengers when the real Windsor train (15:13 I think) arrived on platform 5.

 

[norbitonflyer]

Five diagrams this m orning - no morning Shepperton (2H90).

 

[OneTrackMinded]

This is slightly off topic, but Tyne and Wear have just put their need Class 555s onto their first passenger diagram.

Anyone want to bet if by the time these 46 units are rolled out, the 701s won’t even be half way to that number, let alone all 90

 

[Goldfish62]

This is slightly off topic, but Tyne and Wear have just put their need Class 555s onto their first passenger diagram.

Anyone want to bet if by the time these 46 units are rolled out, the 701s won’t even be half way to that number, let alone all 90

Hopefully they'll be more reliable than their Class 777 cousins - can't be any worse!

 

[Class15]

Hopefully they'll be more reliable than their Class 777 cousins - can't be any worse!

If Tyne & Wear do a Merseyrail they will rush unreliable Stadler units into service and withdraw serviceable replacements prematurely!

 

[Goldfish62]

If Tyne & Wear do a Merseyrail they will rush unreliable Stadler units into service and withdraw serviceable replacements prematurely!

Yes!

 

[Sam 76]

If Tyne & Wear do a Merseyrail they will rush unreliable Stadler units into service and withdraw serviceable replacements prematurely!

To be fair I don’t think the old units could be any less reliable. But that’s a topic for another thread

 

[800001]

This is slightly off topic, but Tyne and Wear have just put their need Class 555s onto their first passenger diagram.

Anyone want to bet if by the time these 46 units are rolled out, the 701s won’t even be half way to that number, let alone all 90

Unsure of number, but far less than half the 555s are here.

@DanNCL may know how many are built, here etc

 

[D365]

Unsure of number, but far less than half the 555s are here.

@DanNCL may know how many are built, here etc

For the new Tyne & Wear ”Class 555”, I’d suggest the discussion taking place here.