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I can't remember when I last went into a Morrisons. It's a shame to hear that the shops have started looking like Muck as they actually used to be a pleasant place to shop. I seem to remember from news reports that they had a big management shakeup recently and haven't heard anything much about them recently so thought that everything was going all Wight for them, but seems this was back in January so doesn't seem as if it's had much effect.

It is going all Wight here on the Isle where they have two large stores and a McColls Morrisons. The large one in Newport is where I do most of my shopping and I have seen a tailing off there: no large changes, but lots of small ones.
 
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It is going all Wight here on the Isle where they have two large stores and a McColls Morrisons. The large one in Newport is where I do most of my shopping and I have seen a tailing off there: no large changes, but lots of small ones.
I work in the Hinckley, Leicestershire Morrisons store. The upkeep and maintenance of this store is not great and has been reported many times. This is a shame as this store has a large car park and popular cafe and usually busy. It's not unknown to have all 8 staffed tills and 18 self service ones open and still queues at busy times.
 

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Morrisons.

Having just discovered that the Sutton supermarket has not re-opened following its closure for roof repairs.

I then looked at the Morrisons website for the nearest to Sutton which is at Mitcham but when I click on that I discover it closed in 2023 !.

Cannot even keep a web site up to date.
I think the Wimbledon one is your nearest, then?
 

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Morrisons always seems outdated to me, its never caught up. One local to me had a broken freezer for months.
My local Morrisons has a broken freezer for months with clearly defrosting products.
Several people have mentioned it on the towns community page on Facebook, and claim to have reported it to the local authority’s food safety team.
 

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Used our local Morrisons on Friday and the wet fish counter was closed. Very little seafood/fish in the cabinets either. I hope that’s a one-off.
 

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They got taken over by some private equity firm which has, as often happens in this instance, been stripped down and have already reported big losses this year:


If/when they collapse I hope there is a serious discussion about the role this business venture plays and whether it should be outlawed/tightly regulated.
Indeed these firms asset strip. They do not see a business providing a service BUT just see the value of the assets not the ongoing profit they could/should provide.

One would hope that customers would just walk away. I considered it BUT it is my nearest supermarket (I can walk to it) and was quite nice.

Makes me wonder - have the staff been stitched up by the Morrison family in a similar way that the Wilkinson family allegedly did ?.
Apparently Manchester United Football team is effectively bankrupt thanks to the Glazer brothers.

We really ought to be favouring the Co-op, Waitrose and John Lewis as these are partnerships owned by the staff aiui.
(que a new thread).
I think the Wimbledon one is your nearest, then?
Wimbledon is probably next nearest - that is apart from my very local Croydon one. My search started because I used to go to the Sutton branch if there was an offer that might still be in stock over there or I was over that way anyway. My research started bacause I heard that there were for sale/lease signs up on the Sutton site.

My next research will be over Bromley way - one long bus ride.

Have over 60s Oyster so will travel !.
I thought daily checks had to be made of fridge/freezer temperatures? Unless of course the thermometer is also faulty...
I think that is correct. Certainly in food catering. More likely than a faulty thermometer is a lack of training or motivation to do it properly.
Used our local Morrisons on Friday and the wet fish counter was closed. Very little seafood/fish in the cabinets either. I hope that’s a one-off.
Our Croydon branch was supposed to loose all its fresh counters. That rumour was doing the rounds about a year ago and makes sense as asset stripping means getting rid of the expensive nice to haves.
Is that the one at the top of the high street that used to be (I think) a Safeway back in the '90s?
Yes, that is the one.

I am wondering if it is the ex Safeway ones that are succumbing. I expect it is just e looking for a non-existent pattern.
 
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Morrisons always seems outdated to me, its never caught up. One local to me had a broken freezer for months.
Our store was refurbished about 18 months ago.
However recently a number of the chiller cabinets have been out of use. So tend to find that fresh fish or dairy products are put in random locations which seem to change each time I go in.
It is convenient as I can walk there in 10 minutes from home. However There have been at least 2-3 items I want that have been unavailable each time I go in so Waitrose or Sainsburys tend to gain more of our custom nowadays.
The citrus in Morrisons (especially the grapefruits) have either been in very short supply or look like they are about to go mouldy recently.
 

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To buck the trend of the recent posts, I was in my local Morrisons at c09:00 this morning and the entire refrigerated fresh food section looked pristine and full, including all of the counters. I don't think I've ever seen it like that (or have visited a Morrisons so early!).
 

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To buck the trend of the recent posts, I was in my local Morrisons at c09:00 this morning and the entire refrigerated fresh food section looked pristine and full, including all of the counters. I don't think I've ever seen it like that (or have visited a Morrisons so early!).
I'm perhaps being cynical, but that screams "senior management visit today"! :)
 

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I can't remember when I last went into a Morrisons. It's a shame to hear that the shops have started looking like Muck as they actually used to be a pleasant place to shop. I seem to remember from news reports that they had a big management shakeup recently and haven't heard anything much about them recently so thought that everything was going all Wight for them, but seems this was back in January so doesn't seem as if it's had much effect.
I've always thought they've been overpriced but the quality has been poor.
Sainsbury's is much better quality and they are reasonably priced. I'm not surprised that Sainsbury's and Tesco are doing well and Morrisons and Asda are doing poorly. The latter have lost their way
 

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I've always thought they've been overpriced but the quality has been poor.
Sainsbury's is much better quality and they are reasonably priced. I'm not surprised that Sainsbury's and Tesco are doing well and Morrisons and Asda are doing poorly. The latter have lost their way

Asda is likely to get even worse in the future after the management 'issues' and more private equity investment.

If you venture on to Reddit and join any group that is used by staff working for the supermarkets, you'll hear just how bad things are in stores - both front of store and back room. Perhaps even more back room.
 

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I’m more surprised that Typhoo is a standalone company; I’d have thought it was just a brand owned by one of those FMCG companies like Unilever.
I must admit, I'm more sad knowing that, these days I just assume any brand that I've heard of is part of some massive conglomorate.
 

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According to the BBC News website today (Sorry....can't do a quote) up to 115 Crown post offices could be closed under their reorganisation plans....which just happens to be the number of Crown post offices which are currently open.

I noticed when selling on eBay for the first time recently (who I'm sure aren't short of a few quid still but interestingly must be worried of the competition of Facebook Marketplace and whatever else is out there these days as they now have no listing or final value fees at all for private sellers!) that you can book your parcel postage online (slightly cheaper than if purchased at the Post Office too), request the postman pick it up from your house and you don't even need to print the label yourself any more as there is a free option for them to bring one for you

It feels like Royal Mail have 'fallen out' with the Post Office slightly since they've lost their monopoly now they additionally offer DPD and Evri options at the counter (the latter of which just don't bother!)
 

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I noticed when selling on eBay for the first time recently (who I'm sure aren't short of a few quid still but interestingly must be worried of the competition of Facebook Marketplace and whatever else is out there these days as they now have no listing or final value fees at all for private sellers!) that you can book your parcel postage online (slightly cheaper than if purchased at the Post Office too), request the postman pick it up from your house and you don't even need to print the label yourself any more as there is a free option for them to bring one for you

I haven't bothered selling anything on eBay for years, I found I had more success on Facebook Marketplace, so you may have a point.

Only time I use eBay now is when I need something low value, the sort of stuff you'd normally pick up from the DIY stall at a Sunday morning car-boot.
 

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I noticed when selling on eBay for the first time recently (who I'm sure aren't short of a few quid still but interestingly must be worried of the competition of Facebook Marketplace and whatever else is out there these days as they now have no listing or final value fees at all for private sellers!) that you can book your parcel postage online (slightly cheaper than if purchased at the Post Office too), request the postman pick it up from your house and you don't even need to print the label yourself any more as there is a free option for them to bring one for you

It feels like Royal Mail have 'fallen out' with the Post Office slightly since they've lost their monopoly now they additionally offer DPD and Evri options at the counter (the latter of which just don't bother!)
Its been that way for a couple of years, buying direct from Royal Mail is cheaper than the Post Office. Royal Mail made the change before Post Office started partnering with DPD and Evri. For some Royal Mail products that you can't buy at the Post Office like Tracked 24/48 you had to pay an extra fee to drop off at Post Office even, but that has recently ended.

I've been buying direct from Royal Mail for at least two years to save the 30p or so per second class small parcel compared to going to the Post Office.
 

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It feels like Royal Mail have 'fallen out' with the Post Office slightly since they've lost their monopoly now they additionally offer DPD and Evri options at the counter (the latter of which just don't bother!)
Royal Mail seem to be doing all they can to stop you using the Post Office. Buying online is cheaper and while you can drop it off at the Post Office, Royal Mail put that option way down the list. At the moment they seem to be pushing Collect+ shops - originally a scheme set up by Yodel!
 

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I think with Five Guys you are definitely paying for the quality of the food over the competition. If, for the same price point you are expecting table service then something’s got to give. I don’t eat there often but when I have it’s been far far superior to McD’s
if you have an understanding of the 'burger' end of the market the product Five guys offers is completely different to the product that McD / Burger King offer ( and the chickan products analogous at KFC etc )
adding genuine table service would add a whole layer more costs ( as you've be paying for several 'runners' in addition to the order taker/ cashier(s) and the kitchen staff as does plates and cutlery (as you basically need a full time Plongeur OR a massive stock of plates and cutlery, plus of course the costs of bussing and resetting - where the Dining Area staff member in a Five Guys is doing the same as DA staff in McD ( minus what Mcd call 'table service' which is fundamentally the the same as 'counter present ' just the person doing it walks over to your table

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Co-Op is owned by its members, who are also the customers.
altough the former CWS 'The co-operative group ' who combine the former CWS group purchasing functiosn and the managmenet of a stores of a number of the former local co-ops seems to be rather remote from the membership compared to the remaining Local co-ops which have not been assimilated by the centre - with Mid Counties , Central co-op , and Lincolnshire being quite clear in their branding and public facing communication that they are not the former CWS Co-op even if they use it as a buying group ( as the vastest majority of co-oips did when they were still locally owned and run )
 
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Pizza Hut is trying to raise finances in light of budget tax increases that will hit them:




As someone who is a recurring customer, while I've not had too many issues with them, it's been a very long time since I walked into one of their restaurants and found it at more than half capacity, while their restaurant count has slowly been declining in the last decade (including a few I visited more than once but now no longer exist). Delivery/collection service also seems rather quiet from multiple venues I've used before. Therefore, I imagine they've got wider financial issues that pre-date any tax implications they've got to consider.

Pizza Huts are extraordinarily expensive for what they are. I went into one a few months ago, having not been to one since I was a teenager, and couldn't believe the prices. I'm not at all surprised they're at half capacity.

I suspect it's just not possible to have a poor quality (and let's be honest, that's Pizza Hut) restaurant chain these days as the minimum wage etc means you're still selling pricey stuff. Better to have at least mid range quality for a couple of quid more.
 

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Pizza Hut has been stupidly priced for years, long before Covid, with half empty stores or stores that look much like a high street WH Smith (i.e. not having had a refurbishment in years). As I consequence, I too stopped going and only went if out with others who chose to go there - which was usually a case of 'everywhere is packed, let's go to Pizza Hut as they'll have seats'.

I am not sure being the place to go as a last resort is a great business model! To be fair, the pizzas are nice enough.
 

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Pizza Huts are extraordinarily expensive for what they are. I went into one a few months ago, having not been to one since I was a teenager, and couldn't believe the prices. I'm not at all surprised they're at half capacity.

I suspect it's just not possible to have a poor quality (and let's be honest, that's Pizza Hut) restaurant chain these days as the minimum wage etc means you're still selling pricey stuff. Better to have at least mid range quality for a couple of quid more.
The buffet lunches have historically been a selling point, not common elsewhere and more affordable than most of the remainder of the menu. However by closing more restaurants they make this option harder to find. The only restaurant in the West Country appears to be in Yeovil, but they definitely used to have them in Bristol, Exeter and Torquay (having eaten in them in the past 10 years). In Kent, the Dartford and Bexleyheath ones nearest to Crayford don't exist anymore either.
 

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My last experience of Pizza Hut was some time ago. Arriving, we could clearly see that, at the most, a quarter of the tables were occupied but the waiter came to the door and told us 'too busy to serve you at the moment' without a clear idea of when we might be seated.
To be clear; we neither waited nor ever went back, but presumably the waiter's motive was the belief that discouraging prospective customers would make his job easier with no possible downside. Seen that elsewhere with, for example, 'Little Chef'.
 

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The only restaurant in the West Country appears to be in Yeovil, but they definitely used to have them in Bristol, Exeter and Torquay (having eaten in them in the past 10 years)
Plymouth has one on the Barbican retail park.
Truro has one opposite the Truro college next to McDonald’s.
 

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Jaguar. Brave or bonkers? Could it be the beginning of the end? Or did the end start a long time ago and this rebrand has just accelerated it?

I cringed watching that ad which didn’t even include a car, but then why should it as it’s going to be a couple of years before the new all electric cars are available.

Personally, I thought it was sad to see an iconic British brand reduced to whatever that yellow and pink monstrosity of an ad was supposed to be, but the gen Z wealthy influencer types might like it I suppose!

What a mess, and where’s their income for the next year coming from now they’ve said they’re discontinuing the current lineup but have nothing to replace it with?
 

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Jaguar. Brave or bonkers? Could it be the beginning of the end? Or did the end start a long time ago and this rebrand has just accelerated it?

I cringed watching that ad which didn’t even include a car, but then why should it as it’s going to be a couple of years before the new all electric cars are available.

Personally, I thought it was sad to see an iconic British brand reduced to whatever that yellow and pink monstrosity of an ad was supposed to be, but the gen Z wealthy influencer types might like it I suppose!

What a mess, and where’s their income for the next year coming from now they’ve said they’re discontinuing the current lineup but have nothing to replace it with?

The BBC podcast "when it hits the fan" discussed through Jaguar rebrand this week. Well worth listening to.
 

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