TfW Class 67+Mk4 sets: trip planning/experiences, diagram updates etc

[Jacob Porrett]

Today at Crewe depot (6/11/24):

67008 connected to HD06

67015 connected to HD05

 

[37052 xb mr]

Ah okay so RTT must have made a mistake:

Realtime Trains | 1V37 0830 Manchester Piccadilly to Cardiff Central | 06/11/2024

Real-time train running information for 1V37 0830 departure from Manchester Piccadilly to Cardiff Central on 06/11/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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There all like that on RTT
But it says 5 car on the page

 

[BillStampy]

There all like that on RTT
But it says 5 car on the page

Wouldn't mind an update to the sets on RTT, give them the extra coach and correct livery!

In all seriousness, should probably have a slight update as it's quite outdated (no DVT livery, lack of coaches, wrong formation/orientation ect..)

 

[37052 xb mr]

Wouldn't mind an update to the sets on RTT, give them the extra coach and correct livery!

In all seriousness, should probably have a slight update as it's quite outdated (no DVT livery, lack of coaches, wrong formation/orientation ect..)

Yes, The class 91 livery’s are updated

 

[BillStampy]

Yes, The class 91 livery’s are updated

Get some of those liveries on the 67s too, one can dream..
One thing I wouldn't mind though is showing what it is instead of just a picture, when the picture is on it, there's no info when they know exactly what it is. That'd be useful

 

[37052 xb mr]

1W11 is 197114
No 67010 set 1

 

[Topological]

1W11 is 197114
No 67010 set 1

On it, and its very quiet at the south end though this will now be very busy when it gets closer to Manchester.

The 197s are good enough as trains so it is not a big loss to have a 197/1.

Does mean one less 197 for other services though.

 

[37052 xb mr]

67010 set 1 now allocated on 1W96 Holyhead

 

[sd0733]

1W11 is 197114
No 67010 set 1

The Canton recovery loco was out of use so 67010 had to be held back to cover that for the morning.
67029 should head light engine in the morning to Canton to cover from tomorrow.

67015+HD05 is finally expected to make the move over to Crewe ETD later for tyre turning. Believe it's only 1 bogie so it should be returning to ATC tomorrow.

 

[37052 xb mr]

67014 set 7
Cancelled at Stockport on 1W57

1V46 Cancelled
5V46 ECS to Crewe

 

[Jamesrob637]

67014 set 7
Cancelled at Stockport on 1W57

1V46 Cancelled
5V46 ECS to Crewe

RTT says crew issues?

 

[BillStampy]

RTT says crew issues?

JourneyCheck says operational incident, not sure what is up with that.

 

[37052 xb mr]

JourneyCheck says operational incident, not sure what is up with that.

Rolled with doors open

 

[Jacob Porrett]

Today at Crewe depot (7/11/24):

67015 connected to HD05

67008 connected to HD06

67014 connected to HD07 which has come ECS move from Stockport 5V46.

 

[BillStampy]

Rolled with doors open

That really isn't good! Hopefully it didn't roll far before stopping...

 

[Jacob Porrett]

67015 and HD05 left Crewe depot on 5T67 earlier on to go for tyre turning.

 

[BillStampy]

Tomorrow is showing as
67012 + HD03 1V33/1W19/1V50
67010 + HD01 1V91/1W57/1V46/1W65
67013 + HD04 1W11/1V37/1W96

67014 + HD07 out of service after operational incident at Stockport.

67015 + HD05 now on tyre turning as explained in other posts.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[MP393]

Tomorrow is showing as
67012 + HD03 1V33/1W19/1V50
67010 + HD01 1V91/1W57/1V46/1W65
67013 + HD04 1W11/1V37/1W96

67014 + HD07 out of service after operational incident at Stockport.

67015 + HD05 now on tyre turning as explained in other posts.

(Please correct me if I'm wrong)

HD03 not coming off Crewe now either, both 197s.

 

[Topological]

I can see that the 16:30 from Manchester today is going to be a 2-car. As a semi-regular that seems like a really odd decision for allocation. Can only assume there are really no other 3-car around for the 1W19/1V50 pair.

 

[37052 xb mr]

I can see that the 16:30 from Manchester today is going to be a 2-car. As a semi-regular that seems like a really odd decision for allocation. Can only assume there are really no other 3-car around for the 1W19/1V50 pair.

67012 Set 3
On 1W55 from Crewe to Manchester

67014 set 7
Is allocated from Crewe - Manchester
On 1W19

 

[Topological]

67012 Set 3
On 1W55 from Crewe to Manchester

67014 set 7
Is allocated from Crewe - Manchester
On 1W19

That's brilliant news. i do not mind the 197s, but 2 carriages on the 16:30 from Manchester would have been very cosy indeed.

 

[sd0733]

All 4 sets are back out today but there's a programme of campaign works, repairs, exams etc over the weekend which puts a number of sets out of use, the only ones expected to be serviceable for the weekend are HD03 and HD07. Everything else is out of use or stabled at Holyhead. It does mean that the diagrams starting with the Swansea and the 04:54 from Crewe both those diagrams are planned to be unit operated.

Once HD03 arrives into Crewe on Sunday it's planned to have a loco swap with 67015 replacing 012.

67007 is expected to run light engine back to DB at Crewe ETD from Canton tomorrow, 67029 did the run the other way earlier and is now the Canton recovery loco.

 

[37052 xb mr]

All 4 sets are back out today but there's a programme of campaign works, repairs, exams etc over the weekend which puts a number of sets out of use, the only ones expected to be serviceable for the weekend are HD03 and HD07. Everything else is out of use or stabled at Holyhead. It does mean that the diagrams starting with the Swansea and the 04:54 from Crewe both those diagrams are planned to be unit operated.

Once HD03 arrives into Crewe on Sunday it's planned to have a loco swap with 67015 replacing 012.

67007 is expected to run light engine back to DB at Crewe ETD from Canton tomorrow, 67029 did the run the other way earlier and is now the Canton recovery loco.

1W11 ex Cardiff is 197107
1W13 ex Swansea is 67014 set 7
So as it stands both sets end at Crewe tonight !

 

[Welshguy1048]

Afternoon all

I had this information given to me by a Gbrf driver friend.....

Quote from the screenshot

"Bit of news given to me from a railway colleague (who is at TfW). Next year TfW are to increase the MK4/class 67 sets by another 4 minimum. Possibly another 7 in total, to increase capacity on the main Mcr - South Wales core route, but also to reintroduce the services on the coast to Holyhead as they were up to a couple of years ago. The Mcr - Llandudno - Holyhead diagrams. All the 67's & MK4's will be in the red/black livery eventually"

I wonder what you all think of this plan...?

Dave

 

[xotGD]

Afternoon all

I had this information given to me by a Gbrf driver friend.....

Dave

This would imply the LNER sets standing down and being transferred across.

 

[Welshguy1048]

This would imply the LNER sets standing down and being transferred across.

@xotGD

Yes. That is what my friend said would happen.

Dave

 

[Western 52]

Given their reliability issues I'd have thought tfw wouldn't want more Mk4 sets. Then of course the 197s are at least as bad.

 

[TrainTrackJack]

Afternoon all

I had this information given to me by a Gbrf driver friend.....

Dave

Next year would seem a little premature given LNER won't be giving the 91 + MK4 sets up till at least 2027.

 

[37052 xb mr]

There is still the spare set HD08
At Bristol but it will need work before entering service

 

[37052 xb mr]

1V46 cancelled at Manchester
Due to a ill passenger
67012 Set 3 ran ECS to Crewe as 5V46
1W65 showing cancelled as a result