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The Reading Borough local plan was updated last week. Some correspondence was made public including this from Network Rail:

"The Brunel Arcade and Apex Plaza development site (CR11d) is still available as allocated for a new tall building albeit
Network Rail would welcome development that provides some flexibility in the uses than current policy suggests due to commercial viability reasons. Network Rail and our partners are working up proposals to take forward a high density mixed used redevelopment scheme, including station and public realm enhancements with baseline technical evidence gathering and master planning work currently underway. We trust these comments will be useful in the preparation of the forthcoming plan documents."

Can anyone "in the know" shed any light on what's being planned?
 
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"The Brunel Arcade and Apex Plaza development site (CR11d) is still available as allocated for a new tall building albeit
Network Rail would welcome development that provides some flexibility in the uses than current policy suggests due to commercial viability reasons. Network Rail and our partners are working up proposals to take forward a high density mixed used redevelopment scheme, including station and public realm enhancements with baseline technical evidence gathering and master planning work currently underway. We trust these comments will be useful in the preparation of the forthcoming plan documents."
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What a bunch of waffle with absolutely no clarity as to what they're trying to say.

EDIT: No reflection on @peterson , just on the incredible nonsense some orgs can put out as "comms"
 

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What a bunch of waffle with absolutely no clarity as to what they're trying to say.

EDIT: No reflection on @peterson , just on the incredible nonsense some orgs can put out as "comms"
It seems relatively clear to me: they hope to deliver a high rise apartment building with shops, offices, &c. on the lower floor(s) and are currently pulling together an indicative site plan and supporting evidence to assess the effects and opportunities of that type of development.
 

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It seems relatively clear to me
Agreed. Noteably some public realm improvements which the Brunel Arcade and surrounding area sorely needs.

The development work ongoing next to the Thames Tower does look like it's going to deliver a rather nice stepped space. The current plaza is rather spartan and the large LED advertising display rather overbearing.

It's a shame there isn't enough space and ambition to deliver a proper multi-modal transport hub, integrating a bus station with the station as has been done in other places - for example South Shields Interchange.
 

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Agreed. Noteably some public realm improvements which the Brunel Arcade and surrounding area sorely needs.

The development work ongoing next to the Thames Tower does look like it's going to deliver a rather nice stepped space. The current plaza is rather spartan and the large LED advertising display rather overbearing.

It's a shame there isn't enough space and ambition to deliver a proper multi-modal transport hub, integrating a bus station with the station as has been done in other places - for example South Shields Interchange.
Seems that Reading council is very keen on building more residential flats in the vicinity of the station. There are numerous applications of redeveloping current commercial and retail premises into mixed residential use. I suppose the demand for housing in the area has increased partly thanks to Elizabeth Line raising the profile of the town centre area.

And yes Reading station sorely needs a proper public transport interchange. It’s a nightmare to find the right bus stop if one is not familiar with the town as they are currently scattered everywhere around town. More than once I was asked by passers-by where a certain bus stop is, and many realised that they have actually just walked right passed it without realising.
 

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Agreed. Noteably some public realm improvements which the Brunel Arcade and surrounding area sorely needs.

The development work ongoing next to the Thames Tower does look like it's going to deliver a rather nice stepped space. The current plaza is rather spartan and the large LED advertising display rather overbearing.

It's a shame there isn't enough space and ambition to deliver a proper multi-modal transport hub, integrating a bus station with the station as has been done in other places - for example South Shields Interchange.
It basically is, most of the bus stops are outside or a short walk from the station
 

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The Brunel Arcade is showing its age with leaks in the roof, so it is probably a good time to think about a replacement. More tall buildings would not help the area outside the station that feels cold and unpleasant as it is whenever it is windy as it funnels between existing blocks. Mind you, it will probably be years before anything happens. The shopping centre and old Royal Mail site on the other side has had schemes proposed for ages with nothing happening as yet.
 
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And yes Reading station sorely needs a proper public transport interchange. It’s a nightmare to find the right bus stop if one is not familiar with the town as they are currently scattered everywhere around town. More than once I was asked by passers-by where a certain bus stop is, and many realised that they have actually just walked right passed it without realising.
At the very least, they could put some proper pedestrian access routes to the bus stops along Forbury road, with signalled pedestrian crossings.
Currently you have to take your life into your hands crossing the stream of buses, taxis and other vehicles coming out of the town centre.
 

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The Brunel Arcade is showing its age with leaks in the roof, so it is probably a good time to think about a replacement. More tall buildings would not help the area outside the station that feels cold and unpleasant as it is whenever it is windy as it funnels between existing blocks. Mind you, it will probably be years before anything happens. The shopping centre and old Royal Mail site on the other side has had schemes proposed for ages with nothing happening as yet.

At the very least, they could put some proper pedestrian access routes to the bus stops along Forbury road, with signalled pedestrian crossings.
Currently you have to take your life into your hands crossing the stream of buses, taxis and other vehicles coming out of the town centre.

Both these comments are valid in their own rights. Having worked out of Brunel Arcade, the place behind the scenes is awful, the layout is poor and if it’s not leaking from the roof, it leaks from the old and ailing internal pluming (think sewage!). The sooner it goes, frankly the better.

I don’t think it’s ever helped having the taxi stub where it is, and not making this part of Forbury Road a one way circular loop. The rest of it certainly is - at least that would help in not having to monitor the traffic coming from either direction whilst training to enter the town from the RailAir exit!
 

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The Brunel Arcade is showing its age with leaks in the roof, so it is probably a good time to think about a replacement. More tall buildings would not help the area outside the station that feels cold and unpleasant as it is whenever it is windy as it funnels between existing blocks. Mind you, it will probably be years before anything happens. The shopping centre and old Royal Mail site on the other side has had schemes proposed for ages with nothing happening as yet.
All high rise biluildings do is block out light and create wind (even on not particularly windy days). If only they could be more imaginative and do something that won't just further darken and cool the area.
 

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Seems that Reading council is very keen on building more residential flats in the vicinity of the station. There are numerous applications of redeveloping current commercial and retail premises into mixed residential use. I suppose the demand for housing in the area has increased partly thanks to Elizabeth Line raising the profile of the town centre area.

And yes Reading station sorely needs a proper public transport interchange. It’s a nightmare to find the right bus stop if one is not familiar with the town as they are currently scattered everywhere around town. More than once I was asked by passers-by where a certain bus stop is, and many realised that they have actually just walked right passed it without realising.
I wouldn’t say that the Council is ‘very keen’ to build more flats — there are disadvantages in the area of social cohesion as the Council has noted since the residents tend to change more frequently than in other forms of dwellings and the sense of ‘belonging’ to the town is therefore less pronounced — but in view of Reading’s very restricted boundaries and the requirement to add some 800 dwellings per year to the housing stock it is unavoidable.

In this connection the effect of the Elizabeth line is not very significant as, seen from the Reading end, it supplies essentially a two train per hour stopping service to London which pales compared to the ten or so fast trains per hour. More significant are the efforts to concentrate high rise buildings in one area around the station and within the trace of the Inner Distribution Road so achieving a minimum density of 200 dwellings per hectare in the town centre. In practice over the ten years to 2023 densities of over 300 dwellings per hectare were achieved so higher values than the minimum are likely to come about. High rise flats are a way to achieve these densities although they have ecological and sustainability disadvantages.

The pressure to convert office buildings to dwellings has also come about because of the drop in demand for office space. The 2019 Local Plan identified a need for a net gain of between 53,000 and 112,000 sq m of office space. What has actually happened since then is that office space has been reduced by around 74,000 sq m. Some of this space can be repurposed for accommodation — mostly flats because of the buildings’ construction.

Such a huge change in only five years - central planning caught out again...

The issue of a transport interchange is a separate one but it must be remembered that buses mainly serve the shops and businesses in the town centre and are constrained by the one-way system. Diverting these routes to a transport interchange beside the station may well have unintended consequences. I also note that people can walk right by a bus stop in a transport interchange as well in the street.
 

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The pressure to convert office buildings to dwellings has also come about because of the drop in demand for office space. The 2019 Local Plan identified a need for a net gain of between 53,000 and 112,000 sq m of office space. What has actually happened since then is that office space has been reduced by around 74,000 sq m. Some of this space can be repurposed for accommodation — mostly flats because of the buildings’ construction.

I had the joy of working in Reading on and off from around 2000 to 2010, and visit it occasionally.

There may have been recent changes, but "Norwich Union House" has been dilapidated and stinking of wee for at least 20 years.

Apparently this one has been empty since the 1980s
 

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I don't think many people realise how restraining the boundaries of Reading Borough are. They mostly date from 1912 and what many people think of as Reading suburbs are within the neighbouring districts of Wokingham and West Berkshire. Only on the Oxfordshire side have the boundaries been extended since then and that extension never included much that could be newly built on.
 

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I had the joy of working in Reading on and off from around 2000 to 2010, and visit it occasionally.

There may have been recent changes, but "Norwich Union House" has been dilapidated and stinking of wee for at least 20 years.
I could tell you why but I think you can probably guess. It’s been frequented by most of Readings vagrants for years, sadly. Having had a chase which has ended up in there, I’m surprised it hasn’t been demolished yet as part of the Station Hill redevelopment plan.

As for the boundaries of Reading, as google shows it is quite restrictive. The large undeveloped areas are the floodplain around Southcote and alongside the Thames (where the festival site is).

It’s been a few years since I stopped working in Brunel Arcade but there were certainly some interesting moments. Parts of the roof nearly blowing off mid storm had to be one experience, along with the torrents of rain leaking through during the subsequent heavy showers.
 

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Perhaps they could commandeer the old station building, now the Three Guineas, and put the booking hall back in its original position.
 

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I don't think many people realise how restraining the boundaries of Reading Borough are. They mostly date from 1912 and what many people think of as Reading suburbs are within the neighbouring districts of Wokingham and West Berkshire. Only on the Oxfordshire side have the boundaries been extended since then and that extension never included much that could be newly built on.

Just to emphasise this, from the Local Plan (via https://readingonthames.com/2024/10/20/reading-local-plan-update/)

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Huge chunks of the urban area are outside of the borough boundary (the black line), and the only non-built up areas within it are floodplains or within the (recently expanded) AWE exclusion zone. The blog post I linked to has a good amount of information on the latter, which is going to block any development south of the centre including around the Reading FC stadium and the new Green Park station. And while the border with Oxfordshire was adjusted decades ago to include more of Caversham they're still very restrictive, which lets Oxfordshire Council permanently block any hopes for a bypass or a third Thames crossing.

So in short, Reading council has very little choice but to build up and increase the density in the city centre.
 

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I had the joy of working in Reading on and off from around 2000 to 2010, and visit it occasionally.

There may have been recent changes, but "Norwich Union House" has been dilapidated and stinking of wee for at least 20 years.
Over the years there have been several planning applications for the re-development of this site which have been approved by RBC's Planning Committee but which the developers have failed to carry forward. It is quite a constrained site in that it does not have much depth but I agree, the current building is an eyesore
Apparently this one has been empty since the 1980s
This used to be a pub and hotel, the 'Lower Ship' but I suspect it became outdated and too small. What is required is a sympathetic restoration of the old building - but the site is also very limited and access difficult, the left hand end seen in the picture abuts the Kennet where it flows under High Bridge[1].

[1] Built 1788, architect John Soane, on the site of earlier bridges leading to the west entrance of Reading Abbey.
 

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Thanks for the responses.
I'm presuming that a redevelopment will inevitably mean less space for station facilities and retail. Although the fact that Network Rail hasn't just sold the whole site, along with their brief statement at the top, implies they see some part of the site remaining as a station, as opposed to purely residential entrances/lobbies/amenity etc. I'd feared they might conclude the newer building and wide railside bridge could suffice.
Is this sort of project (Network Rail working with partners on high density mixed use development) standard for Network Rail, or unusual?
 

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Thanks for the responses.
I'm presuming that a redevelopment will inevitably mean less space for station facilities and retail. Although the fact that Network Rail hasn't just sold the whole site, along with their brief statement at the top, implies they see some part of the site remaining as a station, as opposed to purely residential entrances/lobbies/amenity etc. I'd feared they might conclude the newer building and wide railside bridge could suffice.
Is this sort of project (Network Rail working with partners on high density mixed use development) standard for Network Rail, or unusual?
I just hope this doesn't involve pouring yet more public money into Reading station. It really is the poster-boy for the way southern England sucks up taxpayers money at the expense of the rest on the UK.
 

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I just hope this doesn't involve pouring yet more public money into Reading station. It really is the poster-boy for the way southern England sucks up taxpayers money at the expense of the rest on the UK.

Pre re-build, congestion at Reading affected the entire network. You could readily track a delay on the North Berwick shuttle directly to congestion in the Reading area 6/7 hours beforehand.

Reading has significantly improved now, indeed, I suspect most delays on the Elizabeth and GWML can now be linked to "falls" onto the track. Just need to get Oxford sorted out next.
 

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I just hope this doesn't involve pouring yet more public money into Reading station.

I worked at Reading station from 1980 to 1984 and if I had a pound for every minute I stood on Platform 4 or 8 waiting for a delayed train home to Oxford I would be very rich indeed. The capacity improvements the rebuild delivered were decades overdue.
 

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Thanks for the responses.
I'm presuming that a redevelopment will inevitably mean less space for station facilities and retail. Although the fact that Network Rail hasn't just sold the whole site, along with their brief statement at the top, implies they see some part of the site remaining as a station, as opposed to purely residential entrances/lobbies/amenity etc. I'd feared they might conclude the newer building and wide railside bridge could suffice.
Is this sort of project (Network Rail working with partners on high density mixed use development) standard for Network Rail, or unusual?
No proposals have yet been made for any redevelopment of Brunel Arcade (the 1989 station building) and the adjacent Apex Plaza office block.

At the moment Reading Borough Council is carrying out an exercise to bring its Local Plan up to date and is working out what can be done to meet the, sometimes mutually incompatible, legal requirements. For example it is expected to build some 800 new dwellings annually as well as, at the same time, meet requirements for a 10% increase in biodiversity, provide green corridors for wildlife, protect the existing built environment and heritage assets, while not building on flood plains and still increasing the number of 3 and more bedroom houses, increasing the number of affordable homes and so on and so forth. All this in a borough which already accommodates some 175,000 people in about 40 sq km with a population density of over 4,300 people per hectare.

As part of this work the Council is identifying areas which could be redeveloped. The Brunel Arcade and the Apex Plaza lie within the so-called ‘Station/River Major Opportunity Area’ labelled as ‘Policy CR11’ in the plan. This is a large area centred around the station reaching to the Thames in the north and Friar Street in the south which the Council reckons could be developed for mixed use including 2,200 to 3,400 dwellings and 136,000 to 190,000 sq m of commercial floorspace.

In order to involve potential developers and landowners in the process and to ensure it hadn’t overlooked any potential sites, a couple of years ago the Council put out a ‘Call for sites’ in which the Council asks for sites to be nominated by landowners for potential inclusion in the Local Plan.

Network Rail responded and offered Brunel Arcade and Apex Plaza (now called CR11d in the Council’s documents). Although development proposals for some areas within the CR11 boundaries have been presented to the Council there are currently no proposals or planning applications for CR11d.

In any event there is no reason for Network Rail to sell the site for redevelopment, it can be one of the parties involved in any proposals as is the case with the controversial proposals for Liverpool Street station.

As no planning application has yet been submitted it is impossible to answer your questions. I would however point out that the use of the ticket office has dropped considerably with the introduction of contactless payment for journeys towards London and, indeed, many of the ticket machines have been removed so it would be possible to reduce the area allocated to ticket sales. However the gateline leading to platforms 4 to 7 would still be needed.
I just hope this doesn't involve pouring yet more public money into Reading station. It really is the poster-boy for the way southern England sucks up taxpayers money at the expense of the rest on the UK.
Yet more chipped shoulders. I note that it is now not just London which always gets what it wants but that the area has been expanded to all of southern England.

The rebuild of Reading station a dozen years ago, adding more through platforms and the removal of many of the flat crossing movements, removed Reading from the list of places where significant delays were created. This has had benefits across much of the Western as well as further afield on cross-country and other routes including the container trains running between Southampton and the rest of the country.
 
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The rebuild of Reading station a dozen years ago, adding more through platforms and the removal of many of the flat crossing movements, removed Reading from the list of places where significant delays were created. This has had benefits across much of the Western as well as further afield on cross-country and other routes including the container trains running between Southampton and the rest of the country.

100% agree with this. The benefits of the rebuild far and wide were huge, and remain so to this day. The queues of trains waiting to access P4 (down main) and P5 (up main) before the remodeling had to be seen to be believed.
 

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I just hope this doesn't involve pouring yet more public money into Reading station. It really is the poster-boy for the way southern England sucks up taxpayers money at the expense of the rest on the UK.
I don't think that's fair at all, if you actually visit the station you'll see it's extremely busy and all of the platforms are well utilised.

A huge difference to what came before
 

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I don't think that's fair at all, if you actually visit the station you'll see it's extremely busy and all of the platforms are well utilised.
Indeed. It's a busy commuter station into London, Oxford and the surrounding areas, and offers a surprising range of long distance connections. We need more Reading's, not less.

It's also another example where capacity enhancements have stimulated further local development and passenger demand - 'build it and they will come'.

The Brunel Arcade is not fit for purpose and, in an expensive urban area like Reading it's unsurprising the owners wish to invest in making the land more useful and 'work harder' for them.
 

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It's a shame there isn't enough space and ambition to deliver a proper multi-modal transport hub, integrating a bus station with the station as has been done in other places - for example South Shields Interchange.
Cllr T Page promised that the old bus station (which was near where the foot tunnel to the station's north side starts now) would be rebuilt with the redevelopment, but the promise was never fulfilled and hence we have the current unsatisfactory arrangement. To be honest, we could have a new bus interchange for the non-crosstown terminating bus routes on that site, but it's RBC - easier to find the Fountain of Youth than get them to listen.
 

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To be honest, we could have a new bus interchange for the non-crosstown terminating bus routes on that site
Indeed. The current situation, with bus stops scattered around the one way system, is sub-optimal and rather chaotic. Bringing them into a central terminus would be a substantial improvement.

A multi-modal transport interchange! How modern.

Durham, for example, has an excellent bus station which has absorbed many of the bus stops that were distributed throughout the city centre. So not only is there now somewhere dry and (relatively) warm you can sit and wait, but the pavements are free of clutter & you don't have to worry about finding the right stop (if you're unfamiliar).

The argument that the station isn't directly outside the Oracle, or Broad Street is reasonable. That's why there are bus stops closer to those destinations (in a ring around them), but the station is at the centre of Reading itself and will become increasingly connected with Caversham (with the "through route" across Vastern Rd, from the river bridge over the substation and through the retail park - both to be redeveloped).

So the station is at the centre of the wider area, and with so many transport links concentrated here it makes sense to develop a properly integrated bus and rail station, rather than the haphazard stops on the Southern side and the approximate bus stands on the North.
 
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Indeed. The current situation, with bus stops scattered around the one way system, is sub-optimal and rather chaotic. Bringing them into a central terminus would be a substantial improvement.

A multi-modal transport interchange! How modern.

Durham, for example, has an excellent bus station which has absorbed many of the bus stops that were distributed throughout the city centre. So not only is there now somewhere dry and (relatively) warm you can sit and wait, but the pavements are free of clutter & you don't have to worry about finding the right stop (if you're unfamiliar).

The argument that the station isn't directly outside the Oracle, or Broad Street is reasonable. That's why there are bus stops closer to those destinations (in a ring around them), but the station is at the centre of Reading itself and will become increasingly connected with Caversham (with the "through route" across Vastern Rd, from the river bridge over the substation and through the retail park - both to be redeveloped).

So the station is at the centre of the wider area, and with so many transport links concentrated here it makes sense to develop a properly integrated bus and rail station, rather than the haphazard stops on the Southern side and the approximate bus stands on the North.
Well, yes, and you'll be able to use the cut through the Station Hill development (if they're actually going to still build that cut-through, left the place 4 years ago and progress was glacial last time I checked!) then head through Smelly Alley onto Broad St anyway.

The Oracle isn't really a massive destination like it used to be either, a lot of people head to the Westgate in Oxford these days or the Lexicon in Brackers I think.
 

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