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lxfe_mxtterz said:
That's interesting - is it just the one?

And I don't suppose you have the full diagrams by any chance please? Would like to see if any of my turns have been "upgraded". :)
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Just the one for now. More to follow later in the year though.
 
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Now the 458/4s have started to enter service, has there been any news about when the last two 707s are due to move over to Southeastern?
 
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The 707s are diagrammed Tuesday to Thursday next week but not Friday, so that appears to be correct.
 
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DCtrains said:
Official communications have been sent involving plastering 707 ramps with OOU stickers past the last day of service (29/8)
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Why not remove the 707 ramps completely? Unless SWR expect that one day, the 707s might come back because nobody knows when their replacement 701s are coming?
 
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Two more Suburban diagrams go over to 8-450 from 8-455 from Tuesday making it three in total.

2J05 0606 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J13 0653 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2F87 0750 Waterloo to Guildford via Woking
2G22 0904 Guildford to Waterloo via Cobham
2M21 1017 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M28 1104 Chessington South to Waterloo
2F27 1150 Waterloo to Woking
2F36 1303 Woking to Waterloo
2G37 1403 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2G48 1534 Guildford to Waterloo via Cobham
2M47 1647 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M54 1731 Chessington South to Waterloo
2M53 1817 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M60 1904 Chessington South to Waterloo
2F59 1950 Waterloo to Woking
2F68 2103 Woking to Waterloo
2G69 2203 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2F82 2324 Guildford to Waterloo via Woking

2J10 0623 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D09 0709 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D22 0842 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
2J21 1006 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J28 1054 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D27 1154 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D40 1345 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
2J41 1506 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J48 1554 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D47 1654 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D60 1845 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2J61 2006 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J68 2054 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2M67 2147 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M74 2238 Chessington South to Waterloo

2F84 0641 Woking to Waterloo
2G11 0733 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2F20 0846 Guildford to Waterloo via Woking
2G21 1003 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2G32 1134 Guildford to Waterloo via Cobham
2M31 1247 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M38 1334 Chessington South to Waterloo
2F37 1420 Waterloo to Woking
2F46 1533 Woking to Waterloo
2G47 1633 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2D56 1745 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
2J57 1906 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J64 1954 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D63 2056 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D78 2245 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
 
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TEW said:
Two more Suburban diagrams go over to 8-450 from 8-455 from Tuesday making it three in total.

2J05 0606 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J13 0653 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2F87 0750 Waterloo to Guildford via Woking
2G22 0904 Guildford to Waterloo via Cobham
2M21 1017 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M28 1104 Chessington South to Waterloo
2F27 1150 Waterloo to Woking
2F36 1303 Woking to Waterloo
2G37 1403 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2G48 1534 Guildford to Waterloo via Cobham
2M47 1647 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M54 1731 Chessington South to Waterloo
2M53 1817 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M60 1904 Chessington South to Waterloo
2F59 1950 Waterloo to Woking
2F68 2103 Woking to Waterloo
2G69 2203 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2F82 2324 Guildford to Waterloo via Woking

2J10 0623 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D09 0709 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D22 0842 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
2J21 1006 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J28 1054 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D27 1154 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D40 1345 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
2J41 1506 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J48 1554 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D47 1654 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D60 1845 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2J61 2006 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J68 2054 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2M67 2147 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M74 2238 Chessington South to Waterloo

2F84 0641 Woking to Waterloo
2G11 0733 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2F20 0846 Guildford to Waterloo via Woking
2G21 1003 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2G32 1134 Guildford to Waterloo via Cobham
2M31 1247 Waterloo to Chessington South
2M38 1334 Chessington South to Waterloo
2F37 1420 Waterloo to Woking
2F46 1533 Woking to Waterloo
2G47 1633 Waterloo to Guildford via Cobham
2D56 1745 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
2J57 1906 Waterloo to Hampton Court
2J64 1954 Hampton Court to Waterloo
2D63 2056 Waterloo to Guildford via Epsom
2D78 2245 Guildford to Waterloo via Epsom
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You’ve listed 3 lots of diagrams there? Also assume 2J13 0653 Hampton Court - Waterloo should be 2J12?

Edit: just reread your post stating that there are now 3 8.450 on suburban. Doh!
 
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TEW said:
Two more Suburban diagrams go over to 8-450 from 8-455 from Tuesday making it three in total.
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Thank you for this information. I guess one of the 8-450 comes from next weeks new 8-458/4 diagram (2R03 etc) freeing up one pair of 450. I am intrigued as to where the second pair are coming from? Perhaps a current 8-450 diagram is going over to 8-455? Recently, there does seem to be a constant erosion in the number of 455 diagrams so I would be surprised if they gain new work. In addition, something is going to have to replace the 707 diagram when it finishes. No doubt it is quite a complex rearrangement involving five fleets over the next few weeks (450, 455, 458/4, 458/5, 707).
 
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I guess there's been a little bit of slack in the 450 diagrams as the 458/4 diagrams have ramped up.
 
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TEW said:
I guess there's been a little bit of slack in the 450 diagrams as the 458/4 diagrams have ramped up.
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It is also now possible to allocate some selected 701 diagrams as some crews are now trained. But would need to be be very careful allocating staff at this early stage of completed training. But of course will be more and more crews trained as move through late summer and into Autumn.

But of course also had to be careful with the crews for remaining 707 pair (ends Thursday) as some staff have expired competencies. Similarly trained crews for 4car 458s are not universal.
 
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Siemens Staines said:
Thank you for this information. I guess one of the 8-450 comes from next weeks new 8-458/4 diagram (2R03 etc) freeing up one pair of 450. I am intrigued as to where the second pair are coming from? Perhaps a current 8-450 diagram is going over to 8-455? Recently, there does seem to be a constant erosion in the number of 455 diagrams so I would be surprised if they gain new work. In addition, something is going to have to replace the 707 diagram when it finishes. No doubt it is quite a complex rearrangement involving five fleets over the next few weeks (450, 455, 458/4, 458/5, 707).
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And there's still a pair of 455s on a Reading diagram during both peaks and evenings, plus all day at weekends. Seems a strange choice to instead put 450s on the inner suburban out of preference when in the past it's been acknowledged that they have time keeping issues due to the slow door operation. Obviously I realise that once Reading goes fully 450 there's not a lot of choice other than to move 450s to inner suburban work.
 
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Is 455 904 off to Sims?

Just this minute seen this westbound on the A3 at Tolworth.


Edited at 15.07: I am told this is actually off to Kilmarnock for corrosion repairs.
 

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Peter Mugridge said:
Is 455 904 off to Sims?

Just this minute seen this westbound on the A3 at Tolworth.


Edited at 15.07: I am told this is actually off to Kilmarnock for corrosion repairs.
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Nice to see you appear to have a spotting book on the dashboard for all those road movements you see! :lol:
 
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