I’d say it’s more likely they’ll send a few extra 158’s back across with 156’s staying in the West. Would save on further driver training. The Maryhill Line likely losing the 158’s it gets.
Because there's a danger it would encourage people to use the train. This way it's likely to put people off travelling by train. All scotrail are interested in at the moment is putting people off train travel.
Fair enough but they will really struggle to cope through the East given how services are short formed at the moment. You're correct in what you're saying about crew training though, 156s are rare visitors to Edinburgh these days and if the do make an appearance then it has to be a Central or Motherwell crew that takes it back West as Edinburgh men no longer sign them, Qst crews do but they don't sign the Shotts or Carstairs roads.
Thats some take by the way. A company actively going out their way to put off people using their service? I've heard it all now.
That’s not correct. It’s driver resource meaning they cannot couple/uncouple the normal amount of sets.
This is the issue. Most of the Leven crews are newly qualified crews so have never signed 156’s. If I remember correctly Edinburgh and Stirling crews used to sign them, up until the lines in the Central Belt went electric. They used to run to Kirkcaldy in the evening and did a lot of peak services to Alloa and Dunblane from Queen Street. I’d imagine some Perth and Dundee crews signed them for the same reason.
I believe Motherwell drivers still sign them.
I was giving them the credit with that. But if you're saying it is spectacular incompetence across the board and no one knows what they're doing (and everything I've had from Scotrail confirms this to be the case) then I'll settle for unbelievable incompetence across the board. But I thought I'd give them some credit, but thanks for confirming it's not warranted.
I don't work for ScotRail. I'm not confirming anything. I'm only disagreeing with your opinion that they are deliberately trying to put people off rail travel in Scotland.
So it is a staggering level of incompetence by staff at all levels in all departments. Wow, just wow. I'd credited them with being offical policy, but I realise from what everyone is saying, it is incompetence on a level never seen before.
It's not purely incompetence (though there is a fair bit of that going around), it's more that they are stuck between a rock and hard place: the unions and government pay rules.
Then they are deliberately putting people off so that they can bring their costs in line. But everyone is saying it's not that, so it has to be an unbelievable level of incompetence.
Nope. They are making offers but they aren't acceptable to the unions. See the post previous to this one.
So they have to bring their costs inline. They don't have a money tree, they can't throw endless money at it. The only other option is to bring costs in line with what they can afford. If that means cuts and putting people off, it's okay. It's business. But appear to be arguing this is the case & yet also total incompetence. But it's really only one or the other. I'd much rather it was a business choice, but the forum seem to think it's total unbelievable incompetence, which is much more of a worry.
Don't think we are supposed to release the details but probably in the Scotsman by the weekend.
Government control from the government that say the negotiations have nothing to do with them.
I don’t think anyone is deliberately doing anything. The operational railway is very complex, if you’re not immediately involved things that look obvious on the outside aren’t necessarily so.
Oh yeah the various franchise holders have loved leaking our salaries over the years.I don't think you have to be particularly cynical to think that - it's standard fare in disputes!
It's as much a battle for hearts and minds as for money.
