trentbarton discussion

[Trainman40083]

I would certainly say 'not very' during the £2 fare cap as it has lost its title as a premium service which it used to have.

Premium service with oldest buses, in the fleet.

 

[bringiton]

Could it actually have been 492 or a mistrack?

Looks like 81 took over the diagram after. If it was actually 492, for saying its nickname is "slowlo" it actually looks like its kept to time quite well!

 

[Trainman40083]

Could it actually of been 492 or a mistrack? Looks like 81 took over the diagram after. If it was acatually 492, for saying its nickname is "slowlo" it actually looks like its kept to time quite well!

Give the engine a good thrash... Surely, most unlikely. I mean, they wouldn't, would they?

 

[bringiton]

Give the engine a good thrash... Surely, most unlikely. I mean, they wouldn't, would they?

It was an early shift so i doubt many passengers that early so it could of been

 

[trentbartonfan]

Give the engine a good thrash... Surely, most unlikely. I mean, they wouldn't, would they?

It could've possibly ran on it, considering it was only 6 in the morning and not many people would've been onboard, however trentbarton seems to make a good effort to not allocate Solos on the Red Arrow because of the obvious capacity comparison.

 

[bringiton]

rentbarton seems to make a good effort to not allocate Solos on the Red Arrow because of the obvious capacity comparison.

As well as passenger comfort I'm fairly sure

 

[Trainman40083]

It could've possibly ran on it, considering it was only 6 in the morning and not many people would've been onboard, however trentbarton seems to make a good effort to not allocate Solos on the Red Arrow because of the obvious capacity comparison.

Yes, but at that time of the day, maybe the option is the nearest bus

 

[liamf656]

ADLs struggle with speed? I was driving between Spondon and Kirk Hallam one day last week, at a nice steady 50mph and an Ilkeston Flyer MMC caught me up, and from a standing start. I wonder how well they are keeping to timetable?

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My bad for not wording it correctly. They seem to run okay at 50mph but at 2000rpm they do make a good racket and I can't imagine it'll do good for fuel consumption (and dont get me started on the stop-start nonsense), whereas a Volvo would sit comfortably at that speed without sounding like the engine will fall out!

 

[trentbartonfan]

Has there ever been plans of increasing the frequency of skylink Nottingham to every 15 minutes? I'm pretty sure the PVR of skylink Nottingham is 8, so an extra 4 or 5 buses would be needed

 

[43055]

The first of the mango E200 MMC's in the order has entered service.

328 - YY24 GZX allocated to Langley Mill

328 - YY24 GZX

ADL Enviro200 MMC

bustimes.org

 

[Trainman40083]

The first of the mango E200 MMC's in the order has entered service.

328 - YY24 GZX allocated to Langley Mill

328 - YY24 GZX

ADL Enviro200 MMC

bustimes.org

Yes, Mango painted 328 entered service yesterday. Here it is on the Ilkeston Flyer today. My picture.

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My bad for not wording it correctly. They seem to run okay at 50mph but at 2000rpm they do make a good racket and I can't imagine it'll do good for fuel consumption (and dont get me started on the stop-start nonsense), whereas a Volvo would sit comfortably at that speed without sounding like the engine will fall out!

Must mean stop/stop nonsense. I wonder how many starter motors they get through

 

[joieman]

Yes, Mango painted 328 entered service yesterday. Here it is on the Ilkeston Flyer today. My picture.

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Perhaps 498 will be the only bus in the Wellglade fleet with the most recent iteration of the Mango livery.

 

[Trainman40083]

Perhaps 498 will be the only bus in the Wellglade fleet with the most recent iteration of the Mango livery.

Well spotted....Maybe 328 will be redone

 

[aw94]

Skylink nottingham express seems to be struggling. All the branded solar off as well as 743 and now it looks like 744 has broken down. With 214 (indigo branded), 217 (mango) and 725 (mango) all tracking on there.

214 was to cover for 2 vehicles stuck behind an RTC on the A453

 

[overthewater]

Is there any word on Trentbarton responding to the Arriva X38 changes?

 

[bringiton]

Is there any word on Trentbarton responding to the Arriva X38 changes?

If they have, they haven't put in a new license yet. I guess that could be a smart move, leave it to the last minute to prevent Arriva doing anything else

 

[Trainman40083]

If they have, they haven't put in a new license yet. I guess that could be a smart move, leave it to the last minute to prevent Arriva doing anything else

Whatever happens, they still have to give notice of changes. Is it 42 or 56 days, these days?

 

[liamf656]

Is there any word on Trentbarton responding to the Arriva X38 changes?

They seem to want to continue as usual. I'm not sure if they'll change anything as their X38 will have a lopsided timetable now the gentleman's agreement is gone

 

[tram21]

They seem to want to continue as usual. I'm not sure if they'll change anything as their X38 will have a lopsided timetable now the gentleman's agreement is gone

If the Arriva one is every 20 minutes doesn't that mean that it will duplicate the Trentbarton bus

 

[43055]

If the Arriva one is every 20 minutes doesn't that mean that it will duplicate the Trentbarton bus

Arriva are moving the times 5 minutes ahead of what they are now.

 

[Andy Pacer]

Whatever happens, they still have to give notice of changes. Is it 42 or 56 days, these days?

70 days to enter consultation with LTA, then 42 days registration, but there are set change dates throughout the year.

 

[liamf656]

If the Arriva one is every 20 minutes doesn't that mean that it will duplicate the Trentbarton bus

Yes, but trentbartons side  alone will be lopsided as technically it'll be a different service to Arriva's X38. Until now if you had trentbarton tickets you could get any X38 bus regardless of operator, but now you could be waiting up to an hour

 

[bringiton]

Yes, but trentbartons side  alone will be lopsided as technically it'll be a different service to Arriva's X38. Until now if you had trentbarton tickets you could get any X38 bus regardless of operator, but now you could be waiting up to an hour

To be fair, depends how fast someone needs to leave, there is still v3 and villager which would be leaving during the waiting period which could probably get you to derby or burton before the wait + travel of getting trents x38.

 

[Trainman40083]

70 days to enter consultation with LTA, then 42 days registration, but there are set change dates throughout the year.

So, if TB were to enter into LTA consultation, it would be at least the end of September before any change. Let the market decide.

 

[Andy Pacer]

So, if TB were to enter into LTA consultation, it would be at least the end of September before any change. Let the market decide.

It would be the next change date which I think is October half term.

 

[derbybusdepot]

Yes, but trentbartons side  alone will be lopsided as technically it'll be a different service to Arriva's X38. Until now if you had trentbarton tickets you could get any X38 bus regardless of operator, but now you could be waiting up to an hour

Trent and arriva haven't accepted each other day tickets for quite some time - just returns, and some sort of x38 weekly ticket which could only be used on that route. Not sure how many bought the multi operator x38 tickets, maybe more just bought arriva period tickets, or £2 singles? Certainly made it difficult for Trent or arriva to market it as part of their networks.

 

[Davidsb3]

There is change coming with the Trent barton X38 which will happen at the start of September which will see an increase but for now I won't say too much more as I don't want to say that I'm not meant to yet.

 

[derbybusdepot]

There is change coming with the Trent barton X38 which will happen at the start of September which will see an increase but for now I won't say too much more as I don't want to say that I'm not meant to yet.

Personally I think 3 buses, and a 30 min frequency running via Stretton like the evening buses would be best option.

Every 20 minutes would need 4 buses, and is there really enough demand?

 

[Trainman40083]

Personally I think 3 buses, and a 30 min frequency running via Stretton like the evening buses would be best option.

Every 20 minutes would need 4 buses, and is there really enough demand?

You could have two operators, with a common route number, taking different routes, stopping in different places.

 

[Deerfold]

You could have two operators, with a common route number, taking different routes, stopping in different places.

That sounds like a recipe for passenger confusion.