GRALISTAIR
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Ohio is also no longer a swing state. At one time, whoever won Ohio won the presidency. No more. Now pretty strong red state. I lived there for 4 years btw.
Red meaning Republican.Ohio is also no longer a swing state. At one time, whoever won Ohio won the presidency. No more. Now pretty strong red state. I lived there for 4 years btw.
Liz Truss turned up at the convention in a striking red dress, looked quite odd all considering. Quite what wisdom she can provide the GOP is unknown.
The deputy prime minister has dismissed comments by Donald Trump's running mate for US vice president that UK under Labour might be the first "truly Islamist" country with nuclear weapons.
JD Vance, the Ohio senator chosen as Trump's vice presidential candidate on Monday night, made the comments while at the National Conservatism conference in Washington DC last week.
The 39-year-old said he was "beating up" on the UK, and had discussed with a friend “what is the first truly Islamist country to get a nuclear weapon", then joked "maybe it's Iran, maybe Pakistan kind of counts, and then we sort of decided maybe it's actually the UK since Labour just took over".
A remark like that cannot go unanswered by Starmer and I'll be very interested to see how he reacts to it, but there again he is not really one for giving straight answers to straight questions so we'll probably never find out anyway.According to JD Vance, now Labour are in power Britain is the first truly Islamic country to get nuclear weapons.
Having watched the clip at https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/jd-vance-uk-islamist-nuclear-weapons-labour/ it seems fairly clear he’s joking. I don’t think Starmer really needs to respond.A remark like that cannot go unanswered by Starmer and I'll be very interested to see how he reacts to it, but there again he is not really one for giving straight answers to straight questions so we'll probably never find out anyway.
If ever we needed a reason to believe that Liz Truss was/would have been, one of the worst or even the worst Prime Minister the UK ever had, this probably enforced it. The only thing Liz Truss thinks of is Liz Truss.Liz Truss turned up at the convention in a striking red dress, looked quite odd all considering. Quite what wisdom she can provide the GOP is unknown.
It was a joke. Not a very good one, and poorly delivered. Best ignored to be honest.A remark like that cannot go unanswered by Starmer and I'll be very interested to see how he reacts to it, but there again he is not really one for giving straight answers to straight questions so we'll probably never find out anyway.
JD Vance is his running mate, which is no surprise given he was the favourite in recent days/weeks. He's also an example of someone who was once critic now super-loyal follower of Trump:
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I wonder if Trump's running mate is even more unhinged than Trump himself...According to JD Vance, now Labour are in power Britain is the first truly Islamic country to get nuclear weapons.
At least it wasn't Marjorie Taylor Greene.I wonder if Trump's running mate is even more unhinged than Trump himself...
It was a joke. Not a very good one, and poorly delivered. Best ignored to be honest.
At least it wasn't MTG.
Thats right, the woman who told then Foreign Secretary Cameron to kiss her backside.Had to look up that. I presume you mean this ultra-right-wing extremist?
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Marjorie Taylor Greene - Wikipedia
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Thats right, the woman who told then Foreign Secretary Cameron to kiss her backside.
My boss lives there and recently wrote to her to request help with a visa for a friend of his family. Full disclosure- you won’t be visiting me either! I live in the 14th District! She is our representative.Good grief. Never mind far-right: in my opinion this person belongs firmly in the ultra-right category. Remind me to never, ever visit Georgia's 14th district.
I can't imagine much success forthcoming to be honest. From what else I see about her, I can't imagine helping people get visas would be particularly high on her priority list.My boss lives there and recently wrote to her to request help with a visa for a friend of his family.
Full disclosure- you won’t be visiting me either! I live in the 14th District! She is our representative.
Ohio is also no longer a swing state. At one time, whoever won Ohio won the presidency. No more. Now pretty strong red state. I lived there for 4 years btw.
On the contrary, I take the opposite view in life - the one the late great Anthony Bourdain tried to take. When there are people ( right or left) who you disagree vehemently with, sit down and have a beer with them. Get to know them better and find out why they think the way they do. I would love to have a drink with Jeremy Corbin for example. Jaw Jaw rather than war war.Poor you!![]()
On the contrary, I take the opposite view in life - the one the late great Anthony Bourdain tried to take. When there are people ( right or left) who you disagree vehemently with, sit down and have a beer with them. Get to know them better and find out why they think the way they do. I woul love to have a drink with Jeremy Corbin for example. Jaw Jaw rather than war war.
Having now seen the clip it is clearly a poor joke. Reading the comments in print it comes across as anything but.It was a joke. Not a very good one, and poorly delivered. Best ignored to be honest.
Associate justices of SCOTUS the late greats Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsburg being the gold standard in that regard. Diametrically opposed but really great friends.
Having now seen the clip it is clearly a poor joke. Reading the comments in print it comes across as anything but.
I believe certain media outlets over here have latched onto Vance's comments, you can probably guess which.![]()
A convention of losers.
Maybe the presence of Truss will cause Trump to lose the election marginally. We can only hope.
Until it was written like that I never clocked that the first 3 letters of their names were the same - never thought about it before.
Also Truman and Trudeau (both of them).
that is a fair point.Worse, it's a joke that is likely to spread misinformation. Making jokes as a politician is fine - but the idea is the joke would normally be (a) funny, and (b) so obviously a joke that no-one listening to it is likely to take it seriously. The problem here is that some US Trump-supporters are actually inclined to seriously believe that the UK is an Islamist country. Trump has after all quite seriously made roughly that claim, at least about London. So for Vance to make that claim in a context that's only borderline funny (doesn't have any self-deprecation or any pun or play on words or any of the other qualities that would normally make a joke funny) starts to look like misinformation as much as a joke.