Merseyrail legacy fleet updates (Class 507/508)

[WirralLine]

The only things that should be making a noise when the train is stopped are the compressor and possibly the motor blowers. The latter normally stop a few seconds after the train stops but they do keep going longer in hot weather.

Could possibly be a knackered MA, resistor fan or knackered compressor as they're the only moving important components when the train is stationary. Given its previous issue reported as a "brake fault", perhaps the compressor has been on its last legs causing air supply issues and finally given up the ghost with a lot of noise and smoke. All speculative but an educated guess!

507003 was reported in the control log a few days ago as having a driver/guard bell fault, nothing too unusual!

 

[507016]

Could possibly be a knackered MA, resistor fan or knackered compressor as they're the only moving important components when the train is stationary. Given its previous issue reported as a "brake fault", perhaps the compressor has been on its last legs causing air supply issues and finally given up the ghost with a lot of noise and smoke. All speculative but an educated guess!

507003 was reported in the control log a few days ago as having a driver/guard bell fault, nothing too unusual!

016 got a new MA in 64382? But I guess it has been the worst performing the past few months

 

[Neil Polo]

Might ask if I can get another one at that price, it would make a nice garden ornament

Wouldn’t be great if we could buy all of them?

 

[SeaKing]

507003-507023, 507017-507001 & 507029-507010 were all on Southports today.

 

[DJH1971]

Any news on the next withdrawal?

 

[8A Rail]

Any news on the next withdrawal?

No. Currently the nine Class 507's to remain operational. I'm sure when there is a planned withdrawal, you soon know about it.

 

[507016]

Anybody got any news on 507018 and it’s new coupler fitting?

 

[prod_pep]

Quick fleet update: today's Southport line 507s at present are 507001 + 507017, 507010 + 507029 and 507003 + 507023. 507007 and 507016 are inside Birkenhead North shed.

507018 is currently in Southport sidings with with a driver aboard, about to make its return to service. It is replacing 003 + 023 on the 15.42 Southport - Hunts Cross. A three-car on the return working of this will be nightmarish.

Riding it now and the motors in coach 64384 of 018 still sound superb. By a mile the loudest of any unit left. What a din, particularly under braking!

 

[Sun Chariot]

Riding it now and the motors in coach 64384 of 018 still sound superb. By a mile the loudest of any unit left. What a din, particularly under braking!

i am jealous! If any 507 rider manages to record audio of 507018's car 64384 and add your file to this thread, that will be greatly enjoyed and much appreciated.
We southern folk have missed such lovely noises.

 

[507016]

i am jealous! If any 507 rider manages to record audio of 507018's car 64384 and add your file to this thread, that will be greatly enjoyed and much appreciated.
We southern folk have missed such lovely noises.

Oh I’ve got plenty, I’ll attach the file here this is 64384 Leading, hopefully it uploads this time

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Oh I’ve got plenty, I’ll attach the file here this is 64384 Leading, hopefully it uploads this time

Turns out the files too big to upload, so I’m not sure how to go from here, sorry about that

 

[pokemonsuper9]

Turns out the files too big to upload, so I’m not sure how to go from here, sorry about that

You could try YouTube

 

[507016]

You could try YouTube

Well ok then that’s sorted! Didn’t think of that

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Here we are, the finest sounds left on the merseyrail

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Does anyone have an idea of what causes that high speed hum or ‘growl’ as I call it on the merseypeps? I understand traction motors especially old dc motors do get louder over time such as many of the southern 313s, but I’ve never heard the sound as loud as on the merseypeps?, either way I love the sound

 

[WirralLine]

Well ok then that’s sorted! Didn’t think of that

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Here we are, the finest sounds left on the merseyrail

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Does anyone have an idea of what causes that high speed hum or ‘growl’ as I call it on the merseypeps? I understand traction motors especially old dc motors do get louder over time such as many of the southern 313s, but I’ve never heard the sound as loud as on the merseypeps?, either way I love the sound

Just had a listen to your recording, excellent sound and lovely rheostatic braking too! I noticed toward the end the rails sound like they've been recently had a date with the grinding machine. That bit possibly recorded on the Central-Hunts Cross section as I remember that sounding particularly freshly ground a few months ago?

 

[Sun Chariot]

Well ok then that’s sorted! Didn’t think of that
Here we are, the finest sounds left on the merseysrail.

Thanks so much what a morning treat. .

My dog loves barking and spinning round as Southern + SWR trains pass us, on his morning walk; I've just played this audio loud - and my dog is excitedly looking for the train to pass us!

 

[507016]

Just had a listen to your recording, excellent sound and lovely rheostatic braking too! I noticed toward the end the rails sound like they've been recently had a date with the grinding machine. That bit possibly recorded on the Central-Hunts Cross section as I remember that sounding particularly freshly ground a few months ago?

Yes the tracks between Brunswick and Aigburth has been Grinded but cuts off just before Aigburth station

 

[Westinghouse]

Well ok then that’s sorted! Didn’t think of that

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Here we are, the finest sounds left on the merseyrail

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Does anyone have an idea of what causes that high speed hum or ‘growl’ as I call it on the merseypeps? I understand traction motors especially old dc motors do get louder over time such as many of the southern 313s, but I’ve never heard the sound as loud as on the merseypeps?, either way I love the sound

Sweet, sweet music !! Many thanks indeed.

 

[507016]

Sweet, sweet music !! Many thanks indeed.

I’ve now made one demonstrating the motors in 507016s Coach 64382 the only problem with that is 016s rheostatics no longer work so the audio very roughly cuts to the next recording

 

[507001]

Today 1012 07+18 1027 01+17 and 1042 29 solo (after 010 worked ECS southbound about 1030) 29 wouldnt take full power and lost about 15-20 mins where it was terminated at Sandhills) problem rectified as it ran in service to Southport. 507007 appeared solo on 1242 and 01/17 did 1257 29+18 were paired up and did the 1312.

 

[Borkyyy]

Did a 777 fail as 507007 is running 2S08 07:51 Hunts Cross to Southport which shouldn't be happening

 

[507016]

007 seems to be the only pep running? I’ve just ran down Brunswick and there’s usually 2 that follow behind one, has something happened?

 

[prod_pep]

007 seems to be the only pep running? I’ve just ran down Brunswick and there’s usually 2 that follow behind one, has something happened?

Covering a 777 diagram. The other 507 diagrams are running as normal.

 

[507016]

Covering a 777 diagram. The other 507 diagrams are running as normal.

Ah ok, do we have diagrams for them?

 

[M28361M]

Ah ok, do we have diagrams for them?

These are the Monday-Saturday diagrams, posted a few pages back on this thread. I think they are still correct:

From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1027 1257 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 2042 2257

From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1136 1406 1636 1909 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 1921 2151

 

[507016]

These are the Monday-Saturday diagrams, posted a few pages back on this thread. I think they are still correct:

Thanks for this, Currently on 507018 in 64384 and its motors are very much a treat to listen to!, sadly it’s rheostatics are off today

 

[D1012]

Sad to see 003 & 023 partially graffitied by some scrote.

 

[Neil Polo]

I noticed this morning, too. Scum.

She’s just passed my house heading south. I wonder if there’s a chance it’ll be cleaned off before she leaves service.

 

[Barnsley]

2 pairs will be out today! Times just taken from Trust

Southport departures (to Liverpool Central only)

507018+507029 - 1012 1212 1412 1612 1812
507001+507017 - 1142 1342 1542 1742

Liverpool Central departures

507001+507017 - 1038 1238 1438 1638 1838
507018+507029 - 1108 1308 1508 1708 1908

 

[Merseytrainfan]

how long have the 507s got left do we think?
i tried to find some on Thurs but didn't manage to

 

[8A Rail]

how long have the 507s got left do we think?
i tried to find some on Thurs but didn't manage to

I'm not sure how you manage not to find any, as there are three diagrams they are allocated too on the Southport line and they are consecutive too. Below is the usual diagrams Monday to Saturday.

1) 2U00, 2S03, 2U10, 2S13, 2U20, 2S23, 2U30, 2S33, 2U40, 2S43, 2U50, 2S54, 2U60, 2S64, 2U69.
2) 2U01, 2S04, 2U11, 2S14, 2U21, 2S24, 2U31, 2S34, 2U41, 2S44, 2U51, 2S55, 2U61, 2S65, 2U70 and 5D70.
3) 2S02, 2U09, 2S12, 2U19, 2S22, 2U29, 2S32, 2U39, 2S42, 2U49, 2S53, 2U59 and 2S63

 

[Merseytrainfan]

Turns out i was 15 minutes too early at Central for the evening sets off Southport!

I'm not sure how you manage not to find any, as there are three diagrams they are allocated too on the Southport line and they are consecutive too. Below is the usual diagrams Monday to Saturday.

1) 2U00, 2S03, 2U10, 2S13, 2U20, 2S23, 2U30, 2S33, 2U40, 2S43, 2U50, 2S54, 2U60, 2S64, 2U69.
2) 2U01, 2S04, 2U11, 2S14, 2U21, 2S24, 2U31, 2S34, 2U41, 2S44, 2U51, 2S55, 2U61, 2S65, 2U70 and 5D70.
3) 2S02, 2U09, 2S12, 2U19, 2S22, 2U29, 2S32, 2U39, 2S42, 2U49, 2S53, 2U59 and 2S63