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Ex LNER (and Grand Central) Mark 4 sets for TfW

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FrodshamJnct

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67016 out on test today between Crewe IEMD and Stafford. Not painted yet:

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Image shows locomotive 67016 in original EWS maroon and gold livery at Crewe.
 

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Seems both Crewe starts didn't make it off the depot, I believe they were HD01 and 03, HD01 I believe was 1V33 from Manchester which as stated "problem with the traction equipment". Basically 67008 has had an issue
 

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Seems both Crewe starts didn't make it off the depot, I believe they were HD01 and 03, HD01 I believe was 1V33 from Manchester which as stated "problem with the traction equipment". Basically 67008 has had an issue
There was a depot incident involving one of the Mk4s so neither were able to go.

HD01 should go out from Crewe on 1W19 at 15:30
 
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I'm planning on travelling on the 12:52 off Cardiff to Manchester in 2 weeks time on 22/6 - I'm aware only one Saturday has passed since the TT change but has the MK4 situation been alright? Was thinking of purchasing a first class ticket but didn't do so in the end, with concern over it being swapped for a unit.

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I'm planning on travelling on the 12:52 off Cardiff to Manchester in 2 weeks time on 22/6 - I'm aware only one Saturday has passed since the TT change but has the MK4 situation been alright? Was thinking of purchasing a first class ticket but didn't do so in the end, with concern over it being swapped for a unit.

Many thanks

A wise decision in my opinion - there are regular issues with the sets and locos.
 

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I’ve had some hard luck with 1V91 recently. Ended up with a 197 again, no fault of the 67 as 197017 has turned up as HD02 is stuck in Holyhead.

Does that mean 1W96 back might be a unit tonight to balance things?
 

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I’ve had some hard luck with 1V91 recently. Ended up with a 197 again, no fault of the 67 as 197017 has turned up as HD02 is stuck in Holyhead.

Does that mean 1W96 back might be a unit tonight to balance things?
Possibly, it depends if it's used later or if it just stays there all day.

Infrastructure issues and over-running engineering works have caused a lot more disruption to the diagrams than the trains these last few weeks.
 

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Possibly, it depends if it's used later or if it just stays there all day.

Infrastructure issues and over-running engineering works have caused a lot more disruption to the diagrams than the trains these last few weeks.
That’s very true it’s just unlucky, and no problem thank you, let’s see what I get.
 

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I'm planning on travelling on the 12:52 off Cardiff to Manchester in 2 weeks time on 22/6 - I'm aware only one Saturday has passed since the TT change but has the MK4 situation been alright? Was thinking of purchasing a first class ticket but didn't do so in the end, with concern over it being swapped for a unit.

Many thanks
If I'm not mistaken you can buy an upgrade to first onboard, so if you really want to you probably could if it did end up as MK4.
 

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Any idea where it went? It definitely went onto the DM at Holyhead.
Not sure where it's been all day but possibly just shunting between 2 of the depot, the stabling point and the station ready for the morning.
 

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Not sure where it's been all day but possibly just shunting between 2 of the depot, the stabling point and the station ready for the morning.
It had been sitting in the yard quiet all day (the one between platform 1 and the carriage wash). The shunt signal had DM in the route box so I assume it has shunted round as you said. Thanks :)
 

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Saw HD06's DVT poking out of the shed on Canton this morning, now that I've passed by Canton again it's vanished, any reason for HD06 sitting there or is it just on an exam?
 

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Saw HD06's DVT poking out of the shed on Canton this morning, now that I've passed by Canton again it's vanished, any reason for HD06 sitting there or is it just on an exam?
Just on an exam over the weekend along with 05 and 07 having exams at Crewe.
 
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This weeks 1W23, 16:49 Cardiff - Manchester slightly amended with it terminating at Crewe and going onto the shed with a 1H23 19:30 Crewe - Manchester replacing it formed of a 197. As a result, despite the train-crew working through from 1W23>1H23, because it fails the minimum connection time at Crewe it doesn’t show as a valid connection through to Manchester.

Not sure why the amended diagram though, I would imagine it’s to do with balancing the 197s from the “splitting” at Piccadilly.
 

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This weeks 1W23, 16:49 Cardiff - Manchester slightly amended with it terminating at Crewe and going onto the shed with a 1H23 19:30 Crewe - Manchester replacing it formed of a 197. As a result, despite the train-crew working through from 1W23>1H23, because it fails the minimum connection time at Crewe it doesn’t show as a valid connection through to Manchester.

Not sure why the amended diagram though, I would imagine it’s to do with balancing the 197s from the “splitting” at Piccadilly.
1W65 > 1H65 look to be the same with a a swap at Crewe at 21:37 and the set going to the shed.

The 19:30/21:30 splits at Piccadilly have become 18:30/20:30 splits at Crewe with both those services running 4 car to Crewe and splitting there on the way to Manchester with the unit then pottering off to ATC for an hour.
 

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Addeed to which 1V42 cape at Piccadilly due to brake fault, and an engine on its way to collect the stock.
Suspected dragging brakes on the DVT. As the loco Is trapped at the buffer end so can't run round it will require dragging back to avoid the DVT being an end vehicle.
 

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Not sure why the amended diagram though, I would imagine it’s to do with balancing the 197s from the “splitting” at Piccadilly.

Probably related to the "reduced" capacity at Manchester Piccadilly because of the work on the roof which has started today
 

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Seemingly took two hours to get the loco attached and a brake - at least part of the time unsurprisingly 6 was showing blocked,
 

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As a result of the HD02 issue, the 06:27 from Manchester will be a 197 tomorrow, spare set HD03 will then pick up the rest of the diagram from 12:49 off Cardiff.
HD01 will also swap off in the afternoon, with a unit covering the 16:49 from Cardiff, this will allow it to be the spare ar Canton on Wednesday and prevent overloading Crewe.

Non Mk4 67005 should head light engine to Canton tomorrow to collect 67007 and the pair should then head light engine to Crewe for attention to 007.
67016 has now completed testing and exam and has headed to Toton where it should be painted after all. It's likely (but not confirmed) to come out in the black livery of 020/022.

HD05 stopped at Crewe has completed its minor exam and moved straight to a heavy exam. This will see it made into a 5 car and balance the heavier exams better going forward as well as complete the 5 car program so 4 cars are now a thing of the past unless plans change.
 
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