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Only when being dragged from Brum to Nuneaton with a 58 on the front.Class 87 + Mk3.
Only when being dragged from Brum to Nuneaton with a 58 on the front.Class 87 + Mk3.
I always thought the 379s were very comfortable trains, better than the Southern versions.The more comfortable older 377 2x2 mostly tables configuration is basically a modern day TSO but more comfy imo. Very underrated train. Does its role very well. Very good reliability considering how thin margins Southern have been running on since they got rid of their 455s.
Always looked more like a grimace than a smile to me. Much prefer the original Networker style cabs. The interiors were also ruined by the mid-life (which turned out to be near-end-of-life) refurbishment.Class 365 always happy to see you
Really? I think the Pendolino has a strong argument on the WCML.For my own personal comfort the early MarkII fresh air stock with original seats was the best, especially when it was being steam heated. It has been all downhill since then. I don't like aircon and, though I'm only a bit taller than average, most modern trains that I've experienced (which isn't very many) do not have sufficient legroom or seats of a suitable height.
For commercial impact the HST is way ahead of anything else.
Not a train though.Class 47. British Rail didn't order 512 of them for nothing.
I am not that loving the new sets, but for that treatment, wait until Chinese trains, those will get the Mark 5A treatment of not even lasting 4 year in service if they ever enter the UK market.will probably be in a Cardiff scrapyard rather sooner than the 142s 35 years.
I've been on a few, both within and outside of China. Ultimately they will build according to the amount the buyer pays... ie pay Temu price, get a Temu train. Some of their CRH stuff isn't that bad and should see a reasonable length of service, although they (CRRC) seem to struggle gaining UK/EU certification. That said, looking at some of the Spanish, Swiss and Japanese junk that has arrived in the UK in recent years, the target is not too difficult to beat.I am not that loving the new sets, but for that treatment, wait until Chinese trains, those will get the Mark 5A treatment of not even lasting 4 year in service if they ever enter the UK market.
From a business perspective, for the effort, investment and ultimate cost paid sadly... the 142 technically is the best. 35 years out of them was astonishing.
All your modern Alstom Corodeas, Azumawumas, Arteriobleeding, Evaero (mint flavour) - all that junk cost squillions in consultancy, design, build fees and will probably be in a Cardiff scrapyard rather sooner than the 142s 35 years.
All hail the dusty bin pacers, for they were righteous*
*and probably dangerous
Most of the older CRH stock are not CRRC-builtI've been on a few, both within and outside of China. Ultimately they will build according to the amount the buyer pays... ie pay Temu price, get a Temu train. Some of their CRH stuff isn't that bad and should see a reasonable length of service, although they (CRRC) seem to struggle gaining UK/EU certification. That said, looking at some of the Spanish, Swiss and Japanese junk that has arrived in the UK in recent years, the target is not too difficult to beat.
Better still, Mark 1s with a pair of 37s on the front.Mk 1s with a 37 on the front
Of course, no heat 37sBetter still, Mark 1s with a pair of 37s on the front.![]()
Discussion was in relation to the Chinese built stock, not imported stock. That said, the newer Chinese stock is a near perfect copy of what they bought.Most of the older CRH stock are not CRRC-built
You have ETR600s, Zefiros, and a Shinkansen.
Yes really. The Pendolino made a marginal difference on one route in a market that was rising rapidly anyway.Really? I think the Pendolino has a strong argument on the WCML.