Merseyrail legacy fleet updates (Class 507/508)

[Borkyyy]

Fully 6 car on Southport - Hunts X

507017 + 507003
507007 + 507016
507023 + 507029

Nice to see 016 back out and running. 017 has had really poor performance regarding its acceleration going up to Southport, not quite sure what is wrong with it. Unsure what is on Wirral lines but I'll have a look.

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Anybody know what 016s first service will be tomorrow? Gonna give a little go on it, preferably what time it gets into Brunswick. Thanks

Not sure as they tend to change each day

 

[MR-507508]

Anybody know what 016s first service will be tomorrow? Gonna give a little go on it, preferably what time it gets into Brunswick. Thanks

It ends at Birkenhead North depot tonight. Highly likely it will be out again on the Southport line tomorrow, given the only 507s at North depot are; 001 and 018 (& both are not serviceable at the moment).
If so, it will work the following tomorrow;
From Hunts Cross: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
From Southport: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012

 

[507016]

Somethings happened on the northern line, the 20:19 out of Brunswick is terminating at Sandhills and has been changed from a 6 car to a 4 car, any info?

 

[ccityplanner12]

I'm on '7016 back to my hotel, & the Bootleite sitting behind me has just said he was getting off at "Marsh Lane"!

 

[prod_pep]

Somethings happened on the northern line, the 20:19 out of Brunswick is terminating at Sandhills and has been changed from a 6 car to a 4 car, any info?

This service is currently booked to terminate at Sandhills as part of the current raft of 'planned cancellations': https://www.merseyrail.org/journey-planning/plan-your-journey/northern-line-planned-cancellations. It isn't planned to be worked by a six-car.

 

[ccityplanner12]

It ends at Birkenhead North depot tonight. Highly likely it will be out again on the Southport line tomorrow, given the only 507s at North depot are; 001 and 018 (& both are not serviceable at the moment).
If so, it will work the following tomorrow;
From Hunts Cross: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
From Southport: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012

Hoping somebody might then go down to film them pass through platform 2 at James Street at 5:48. My hotel's in Southport so I'm out of position.

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From observation over the course of this week, the class 507s seem to be diagrammed onto these services to start off with. The convoy then recirculates on a 2½ hour cycle.

N.b. that I haven't observed the specific services highlighted, it's just that the services I did observe were in the "Then At These Times Past Each Hour" bit.

As for why they run them in convoy like this, I have no idea. Note that it passes through Liverpool southbound at 8am & northbound at 5pm, so it could be to provide extra capacity for the rush. Alternatively, perhaps the 777s are designed to be able to assist each-other like old SR EMUs used to do, but I think this is unlikely.

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[507016]

Hoping somebody might then go down to film them pass through platform 2 at James Street at 5:48. My hotel's in Southport so I'm out of position.

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From observation over the course of this week, the class 507s seem to be diagrammed onto these services to start off with. The convoy then recirculates on a 2½ hour cycle.
View attachment 159109View attachment 159110
N.b. that I haven't observed the specific services highlighted, it's just that the services I did observe were in the "Then At These Times Past Each Hour" bit.

As for why they run them in convoy like this, I have no idea. Note that it passes through Liverpool southbound at 8am & northbound at 5pm, so it could be to provide extra capacity for the rush. Alternatively, perhaps the 777s are designed to be able to assist each-other like old SR EMUs used to do, but I think this is unlikely.

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I could possibly get them through 2 and then run back to central, but that’s if I have the bother to walk to James street at 5am

 

[CallmeDave]

Todays workings

diagrams below
1 is 507016 507007
2 is 507023 507029
3 is 507003 507017

From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1027 1257 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 2042 2257

From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1136 1406 1636 1909 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 1921 2151

507001 Birkenhead 26/05 reps
507018 Birkenhead 20/05 reps
507029 Kirkdale Servicable

Enjoy the day.

 

[childwallblues]

I'm on '7016 back to my hotel, & the Bootleite sitting behind me has just said he was getting off at "Marsh Lane"!

He is getting off at Marsh Lane & Strand Road which is the old name for Bootle New Strand. The station name was changed in 1968 when the nearby New Strand Shopping Centre opened.

 

[ccityplanner12]

I could possibly get them through 2 and then run back to central, but that’s if I have the bother to walk to James street at 5am

Alas, London has at least a half-hourly service 24/7 to everywhere in the city, Liverpool has in bus deregulation yet another reason to hate Thatcher.

 

[childwallblues]

Having visited the Pier Head this morning to see the new Cunard liner Queen Anne I arrived back at Liverpool Central expecting to catch the 1113 to Liverpool South Parkway. However screens said that the 1058 was running seven minutes late. I was surprised when it arrived as it was 507029, a type that I had not ridden for about three months,. A bigger surprise was that as the train was late it would run non stop to Hunts Cross. So a little bit of a bonus for me on a 15 minute fast run. I did of course have to stay on for the 1.5 mile return to Liverpool South Parkway.

 

[DJH1971]

Any more news on 507001?

 

[M28361M]

The 0742 from Southport this morning was 507016 solo which I imagine was rather cosy for the morning commuters. Unsurprisingly it lost time on its way into Liverpool and was 7 minutes late when I saw it at Aigburth.

Anyone who couldn’t board that train due to crowding was really out of luck as the following train, the 0757, only got as far as Birkdale before being cancelled "due to a problem with the train".

Any more news on 507001?

Still awaiting attention at Birkenhead North. It seems the intention is to get it back into service, but not sure when that will be.

 

[507016]

Any diagrams today?

 

[finnyus]

Evening all, would anyone know if there are any 507 diagrams operating tomorrow (Saturday 08 June). Thank you

 

[Sam 76]

Evening all, would anyone know if there are any 507 diagrams operating tomorrow (Saturday 08 June). Thank you

Diagrams with 2S02 , 2S03 and 2S04 on Southports are booked as 507s

 

[507016]

Departures I Seen while sat at Southport on 016



07:42: 507007 + 507023



07:57: 507016 Solo (Onboard)



08:12: 507010 + 507029

 

[finnyus]

Diagrams with 2S02 , 2S03 and 2S04 on Southports are booked as 507s

Thanks for that @Sam 76 !

507029 507010 working 0921 off Hunts Cross (spotted at Aigburth)

 

[Class777]

Just a note for anyone travelling on SOP-HNX line. Have just been onboard 507016, just terminated and departed Bootle New Strand due to a brake fault. Stadler engineer was unable to fix the issue.

 

[8A Rail]

Just a note for anyone travelling on SOP-HNX line. Have just been onboard 507016, just terminated and departed Bootle New Strand due to a brake fault. Stadler engineer was unable to fix the issue.

Noted on FB, the Unit has been fixed and waiting to come back out.

 

[Class777]

Ah, that’s good. Hopefully, the issue does not repeat.

 

[irish_rail]

Would be very appreciative of any 507 diagrams for today (monday). Many thanks.

 

[TheSel]

From observation (I'm on 507016)

1012 SOP-HNX = 507016 (solo)
1027 SOP-HNX = 507010 (solo)
1042 SOP-HNX = 2x507 (couldn't identify the specific sets).

Should return as 1121, 1136 & 1151 HNX-SOP respectively, and repeat every two and a half hours (but the nominal 1812 ex SOP is a scheduled cancellation for training purposes).

 

[prod_pep]

507016 has failed once again, this time at Bootle whilst working the 12.42 service from Southport.

On a brighter note, 507001 has been moving about today. It ventured from Birkenhead North to Kirkdale this morning to collect 507029 which I believe has acquired a fault. Having dropped 029 off at North, I think it has returned to Kirkdale. A return to service is imminent with a bit of luck.

507017 had spent a few days stabled at New Brighton but has now moved to Birkenhead North, with another unit trading places earlier (507003?).

 

[Class777]

Not good

507016 has failed once again, this time at Bootle whilst working the 12.42 service from Southport.

On a brighter note, 507001 has been moving about today. It ventured from Birkenhead North to Kirkdale this morning to collect 507029 which I believe has acquired a fault. Having dropped 029 off at North, I think it has returned to Kirkdale. A return to service is imminent with a bit of luck.

507017 had spent a few days stabled at New Brighton but has now moved to Birkenhead North, with another unit trading places earlier (507003?).

That’s not good at all that 016 is experiencing multiple brake failures in a span of a few days. Hopefully 001 can come out to play soon.

 

[peter.owen]

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On a brighter note, 507001 has been moving about today. It ventured from Birkenhead North to Kirkdale this morning to collect 507029 which I believe has acquired a fault. Having dropped 029 off at North, I think it has returned to Kirkdale. A return to service is imminent with a bit of luck.

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507001 was at Kirkdale when I passed there about 1340 today.

 

[Yoboys45]

Hope everyone's having a great afternoon, does anybody know the diagrams for Tuesday, thanks in advance

 

[irish_rail]

From observation (I'm on 507016)

1012 SOP-HNX = 507016 (solo)
1027 SOP-HNX = 507010 (solo)
1042 SOP-HNX = 2x507 (couldn't identify the specific sets).

Should return as 1121, 1136 & 1151 HNX-SOP respectively, and repeat every two and a half hours (but the nominal 1812 ex SOP is a scheduled cancellation for training purposes).

Thank-you.

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507016 has failed once again, this time at Bootle whilst working the 12.42 service from Southport.

On a brighter note, 507001 has been moving about today. It ventured from Birkenhead North to Kirkdale this morning to collect 507029 which I believe has acquired a fault. Having dropped 029 off at North, I think it has returned to Kirkdale. A return to service is imminent with a bit of luck.

507017 had spent a few days stabled at New Brighton but has now moved to Birkenhead North, with another unit trading places earlier (507003?).

016 sounded more like a diesel train when it passed me this morning at Ainsdale!

 

[Sun Chariot]

016 sounded more like a diesel train when it passed me this morning at Ainsdale!

Slightly OT - still about beautiful PEP noise though.
If it's any consolidation, the final few weeks of 313s service, they were often "thrashed" out of Havant towards Farlington Junction - and they screamed like a Formula 1 engine!

 

[irish_rail]

Slightly OT - still about beautiful PEP noise though.
If it's any consolidation, the final few weeks of 313s service, they were often "thrashed" out of Havant towards Farlington Junction - and they screamed like a Formula 1 engine!

016 sounded like a diesel whilst stationary though!