ETA for receiving Ticket Irregularity Report/Intent to Prosecute?

[temperedglass]

Hi all,

Many thanks for taking the time to read this post.

I want to ask for advice about process for Fare Evasion.

The short story:

I took the Greater Anglia train from A to C. I bought the ticket for B to C but not A to B. When an inspector asked me to provide a ticket for the first half of the journey, I bought one straight away and then presented it. Both tickets were Anytime Day Singles. The inspector claimed this was fraud and said it would have to be reported. This is fair and the consequences of my actions.

However, they did not take my details such as address and email (I have browsed this forum to try in vain to figure out what the procedure was). I have a valid 1/3rd off 16-25 railcard which they scanned, but I am unsure if that is enough for them to be confident that it’s my latest contact details. They didn’t give me a ticket or anything physical.

I would have been more relieved if they took my email and other information verbally because now I don’t know when and how they’ll contact me. I’m unsure in case it’s because they’re going over my e-ticket purchases, which I gather would be very quick (hopefully) since I buy every ticket from the Greater Anglia website directly, and it’s also the first time I’ve done this. The inspector was not very clear about this the process, since I mostly got a stern talking to, and when they brought up reporting it, it was simply two sentences (this is a warning, you can get fined £50-£100 next time, be truthful) with no information on what I should do next.

TL;DR: Whether I am persecuted for fraud or something else, right now I would be very grateful to know if anyone can give an ETA of when and how it will come through, because the inspector did not say anything.

Once again, many thanks for reading this.

 

[grumblingalong]

Sounds like you have been lucky to get away with a verbal warning this time, if no details were taken you won't be being pursued for it, if you were you would have been given a copy of the report/penalty fare.

 

[temperedglass]

Sounds like you have been lucky to get away with a verbal warning this time, if no details were taken you won't be being pursued for it, if you were you would have been given a copy of the report/penalty fare.

Oh, it would really be very lucky of me if it was a verbal warning. It’s just that I haven’t really been lucky before (can be seen from being inspected the first time I did this), so I’m in a bit of disbelief.

I was checking my spam email folder every chance I had in case I missed an email and was almost tempted to ring them up to ask if they needed my contact details properly. Only thing that stopped me was that the members here advising to wait for contact first in other posts.

I’m guessing I can kind of stop checking now? Hopefully the inspector did not forget to give me the copy in case they were pressed for time.

Thank you for the reassurance, and I’m definitely telling everyone I know to not skip fares you’ll end up paying anyways. More stress than worth saving a tenner or so, and now that I also know it’s fraud, it’s even scarier.

Edit: even if it was not fraud I shouldn’t have done that (sorry, wording was unclear)

 

[WesternLancer]

Oh, it would really be very lucky of me if it was a verbal warning. It’s just that I haven’t really been lucky before (can be seen from being inspected the first time I did this), so I’m in a bit of disbelief.

I was checking my spam email folder every chance I had in case I missed an email and was almost tempted to ring them up to ask if they needed my contact details properly. Only thing that stopped me was that the members here advising to wait for contact first in other posts.

I’m guessing I can kind of stop checking now? Hopefully the inspector did not forget to give me the copy in case they were pressed for time.

Thank you for the reassurance, and I’m definitely telling everyone I know to not skip fares you’ll end up paying anyways. More stress than worth saving a tenner or so, and now that I also know it’s fraud, it’s even scarier.

There will be traceable contact details on the ticket they scanned that they can use. Unless you bought a paper ticket with cash. You will need to watch out for e mail inc in spam folders and hard copy post for up to 6 months. But more likely the time frame of 4 to 8 weeks.

Try looking at some other threads involving greater anglia to see how people were typically contacted.

If / When you hear from them head back here for advice on what to do. I agree it isn’t helpful them not seeking your full contact details verbally.

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Sounds like you have been lucky to get away with a verbal warning this time, if no details were taken you won't be being pursued for it, if you were you would have been given a copy of the report/penalty fare.

I tend to disagree with you and think the suggestion you have made here is possible but unlikely. Obv the op will have to wait and see if anything further happens but I think there is a risk of that.

 

[temperedglass]

There will be traceable contact details on the ticket they scanned that they can use. Unless you bought a paper ticket with cash. You will need to watch out for e mail inc in spam folders and hard copy post for up to 6 months. But more likely the time frame of 4 to 8 weeks.

Try looking at some other threads involving greater anglia to see how people were typically contacted.

If / When you hear from them head back here for advice on what to do. I agree it isn’t helpful them not seeking your full contact details verbally.

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I tend to disagree with you and think the suggestion you have made here is possible but unlikely. Obv the op will have to wait and see if anything further happens but I think there is a risk of that.

Definitely! I tried looking up Greater Anglia in the forum and most posts discuss steps after they have gotten a physical copy/report asking them about the ticket irregularity, not before. I was also inspected while on the train, if that might explain anything.

One post had an image of receiving a letter dating 2 days back from the incident, and that’s the only reference I have, unfortunately.

My biggest guess is that they will use email because from my perspective it seems the most reliable since my railcard has my latest email. Hopefully that is what they use, but I’ll keep an eye out on the post as well.

If/when I do receive an email or post, I’d be grateful to receive advice on how to appropriately respond.

Thank you for the response!

Edit: I use Apple Pay, if that helps add anything

Edit 2: the inspector scanned other tickets after mine and then mentioned a warning. Since they were a bit further away, I caught the word warning, but not whether I would receive a warning letter or something else.

 

[Hadders]

If your ticket was an eticket and this was scanned then Greater Anglia will be able to access your contact details from the ticket retailer. If the railcard was also scanned then this would also be a way of obtaining your contact details.

Expect contact from GA to take a few weeks, they might want to research your online ticket purchasing history before writing to you.

If you do receive a letter from them then come back here and post a redacted copy of it in this thread and we can assist with how to reply.

 

[temperedglass]

If your ticket was an eticket and this was scanned then Greater Anglia will be able to access your contact details from the ticket retailer. If the railcard was also scanned then this would also be a way of obtaining your contact details.

Expect contact from GA to take a few weeks, they might want to research your online ticket purchasing history before writing to you.

If you do receive a letter from them then come back here and post a redacted copy of it in this thread and we can assist with how to reply.

Thank you for your advice! In the meantime I will wait for a response from them and I’ll give an update after 4-8 weeks (or 6 months?) if I receive a letter/email.