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Vectare service 833 (Bingham Villager) ends today, as the contract passes over to Centrebus. With the service being dominated by Mercedes EVM Citylines, it will be interesting to see what goes on the service under its Centrebus operation.

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Nottingham don't really need 506 now with 741 over here, it's just the Rushcliffe Villager which needs a smaller spare bus where possible, but Volvos and Enviros can cope on it if required.
Maybe 506 can work the Red Arrow instead of 7 missing coaches.
 
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Vectare service 833 (Bingham Villager) ends today, as the contract passes over to Centrebus. With the service being dominated by Mercedes EVM Citylines, it will be interesting to see what goes on the service under its Centrebus operation.

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Centrebus have acquired two Islebus I-City minibuses for the service in plain white with branding for Bingham Connect.
 

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Centrebus have acquired two Islebus I-City minibuses for the service in plain white with branding for Bingham Connect.
Ah interesting thank you!

One of the final departures are shown here.
 

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Maybe 506 can work the Red Arrow instead of 7 missing coaches.
If only it could remain Derby...or just any spare bus.

the villager today started off with all 5 buses but by early afternoon only 2 were tracking resulting in a 2 hour gap in the service!
 

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If only it could remain Derby...or just any spare bus.

the villager today started off with all 5 buses but by early afternoon only 2 were tracking resulting in a 2 hour gap in the service!
The odd thing with that was two buses appear to have been taken off but then put back on, so not broken down? Unless they had to do some sort of quick maintenance then perhaps it was a driver issue?

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Over in Nottingham, a journey will almost never be missed. For example this evening after 505 broke down at the station, i4 130 has been put in to replace it on the Rushcliffe Villager
 

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If only it could remain Derby...or just any spare bus.

the villager today started off with all 5 buses but by early afternoon only 2 were tracking resulting in a 2 hour gap in the service!
Maybe some less than profitable journeys are being dropped .
 

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I notice 80 is tracking on red arrow, is it possible its actually out?

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Maybe some less than profitable journeys are being dropped .
Would it be worth it though since its not like the busses would be placed on a possibly more profitable service
 
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I notice 80 is tracking on red arrow, is it possible its actually out?
I would have thought it is more likely it is the ticket machine rather than the bus. If it was one in the row in B garage at Derby, few ever seem to move. But, never say never. If 82 shows then that definitely isn't the coach

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I notice 80 is tracking on red arrow, is it possible its actually out?

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Would it be worth it though since its not like the busses would be placed on a possibly more profitable service
But you could save the mpg and just have more passengers on less buses. Elsewhere, someone suggested more drivers were leaving. I think frustration levels are very high. It is a shame, they have some lovely drivers.

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I notice 80 is tracking on red arrow, is it possible its actually out?

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Would it be worth it though since its not like the busses would be placed on a possibly more profitable service
Notts and Derby 74 (FJ10 OXP) is now working Red Arrow services helping out Trentbarton, so it is possible that it is that coach that is tracking as coach 80. I've seen a picture of it, but not physically seen it myself.

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I would have thought it is more likely it is the ticket machine rather than the bus. If it was one in the row in B garage at Derby, few ever seem to move. But, never say never. If 82 shows then that definitely isn't the coach

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But you could save the mpg and just have more passengers on less buses. Elsewhere, someone suggested more drivers were leaving. I think frustration levels are very high. It is a shame, they have some lovely drivers.

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Notts and Derby 74 (FJ10 OXP) is now working Red Arrow services helping out Trentbarton, so it is possible that it is that coach that is tracking as coach 80. I've seen a picture of it, but not physically seen it myself.
Just had an update. Coach 74 is on Red Arrow, doesn't have a ticket machine fitted and isn't able to track. Freebie
 
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Time will tell if it is to get one.

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80 has been seen out, first time in months. 74 went back to depot at lunchtime.
Yeah I got on 80 about an 2 hours ago, couldn't really tell it was off for so long
 

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Maybe some less than profitable journeys are being dropped .
If that was the case then why was the 1615 and 1730 from Derby not run but all the evening ones did.

Notts and Derby 74 (FJ10 OXP) is now working Red Arrow services helping out Trentbarton, so it is possible that it is that coach that is tracking as coach 80. I've seen a picture of it, but not physically seen it myself.

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Just had an update. Coach 74 is on Red Arrow, doesn't have a ticket machine fitted and isn't able to track. Freebie
Very interesting. Hopefully the borrowing continues and you never know Derby depot might produce a full service one day.
 

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I've seen the 15.20 departure from Derby on 'The Swift' these past two days (Tuesday and Wednesday) Both days it was standing room only on a Solo, Tuesday it managed to show the destination, Wednesday it was showing 'Sorry, Not in Service'

It's sad to see the image descending into something resembling the cowboy operators of the early days of deregulation.
 

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Perhaps it's time for Trent to swallow their pride and buy some second hand buses, or, heaven forbid, some double deckers.
 

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In more positive news, a driver has said that NCT's first electric buses will enter service on Red 50 on Monday 8th April, all being well!
 
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In more positive news, a driver has said that NCT's first electric buses will enter service on Red 50, all being well!
Any timescale given? They do seem rather keen to get rid of/reduce mileage on the (long) Enviro 200s
 

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If that was the case then why was the 1615 and 1730 from Derby not run but all the evening ones did.


Very interesting. Hopefully the borrowing continues and you never know Derby depot might produce a full service one day.
Love optimists. Maybe over the summer Unibus 15 to 17 could help out too. There has actually been a full service for most of a day. Just once. Does the evening service (what time?) not have access to more vehicles as services thin out?

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Apologies I wrote it wrong :lol:

It was MEANT to say, they'll enter service on Monday 8th April!
Hopefully 2024.

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Perhaps it's time for Trent to swallow their pride and buy some second hand buses, or, heaven forbid, some double deckers.
Or lease some EvoRas. If something does not change , they will have a brand like Ratners did. Worth nothing.

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I've seen the 15.20 departure from Derby on 'The Swift' these past two days (Tuesday and Wednesday) Both days it was standing room only on a Solo, Tuesday it managed to show the destination, Wednesday it was showing 'Sorry, Not in Service'

It's sad to see the image descending into something resembling the cowboy operators of the early days of deregulation.
I actually find it worrying that it falls to the older Solos to deliver a front line service. TB are losing market share. The X17 from Wirksworth to Matlock must be the bus of choice. The train Derby to Nottingham. Full of people who would use TB, but now won't or can't. But when you say full. I wonder what those passengers paid? Did that revenue cover the cost of running the bus?

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Looks like the Ilkeston Flyer is down to 3 buses today, instead of 6. Three together then a one hour gap. Might be a few taxi refunds reimbursed there
 
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In further news, CT4N will take over the running of the 866 service from 7th May from Centrebus (Sutton Bonington- Loughborough).

An odd tender for them, but they have resolved issues of drivers and buses so growth would be good!
 

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With the Rail strike today, its great to see Wellglade putting on a full service for those people who can't use the train, say on the Kinch 9 or Red Arrow. Oh wait... 5 on the Red Arrow and more importantly 2 on the 9... Do they just not care?

Vectare and CT4N have advertised their services as 'rail replacement' but absolutely nothing from Trentbarton- I just don't understand it?
 

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With the Rail strike today, its great to see Wellglade putting on a full service for those people who can't use the train, say on the Kinch 9 or Red Arrow. Oh wait... 5 on the Red Arrow and more importantly 2 on the 9... Do they just not care?

Vectare and CT4N have advertised their services as 'rail replacement' but absolutely nothing from Trentbarton- I just don't understand it?
And 2 buses out of 3 on the comet. One of which is a solo. At least 499 is being used with Trent tracking as 750 on the V3.
 

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In further news, CT4N will take over the running of the 866 service from 7th May from Centrebus (Sutton Bonington- Loughborough).

An odd tender for them, but they have resolved issues of drivers and buses so growth would be good!
I thought it was more odd that Centrebus had the tender in the first place
 

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Campus shuttle Solo No6 on the Kinch 9 from Nottingham to Loughborough isn't exactly capacious - luckily it isn't very busy!
 
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