Must be an odd number of cars. 5,7,9 are definetley OK, 11 might be.
We'll I'd tend to order a hot meal whenever I could - but have never worked anywhere where my employer would pay for it. Just happy to pay from my own income.They were the only ones who could afford to buy a cooked meal on-board
There are cases in the current timetable when a Sheffield train will depart St Pancras a couple of minutes ahead of a Nottingham train, both from the same platform. Another issue could be maintenance shed space - it doesn’t appear that the new shed being built at Etches Park is long enough for a nine/ten car unit - but of course if trains that length had been specced then I’m sure a bigger shed could have been built (whether at Etches Park or elsewhere).
They are currently building 7 car for Avanti.
Given that 222s have run in 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 car formations, surely it must be relatively easy to make, for example, a 6 car 8xx? Not saying that EMR should get a train of that length, of course; but the principle of constructing X number of cars shouldn’t be that much harder to do.
The 222s are self-contained vehicles so are very flexible, the AT300s are not.
You can make an 8Xx any length, 6, 7, 8 etc, however when extra coach added it needs all the train management software amending.
There would be even more complaints on here if they had built 6 and 4 car units to fit the platforms at St Pancras.
Yes indeed, which is why I added the bit that reads “Not saying that EMR should get a train of that length, of course”. We all know it would be wholly inappropriate for EMR to run anything other than 5 or 10 car 810s for reasons that we’re all familiar with - I was merely making the point that it should be possible to make an 8xx in any length (in response to another poster saying the 8xx have only come in certain lengths thus far).
Can only be 810001.
No reason. Timetables can always be recast.
That would be based on the fleet they were supposed to be getting, and no-one thought to re-check if there'd be enough space.
For the benefit of those with failing memories, i.e. yours truly, what fleet were they supposed to be getting?
loads of operators don't fill their services all day so you have to strike a balance surely
It's a bit less from Nottingham: the xx50 takes 1h37m; the xx12 takes 1h43h. And I'm not sure if you need a full 30 minutes at each end. I think the logic was 2x5 sets for Sheffield and 2x4 for Nottingham, giving 18 overall. If half of them are doubled up, that leaves 6 spare out of 33.
a 9-car 80x fits with 6 meters to spare, and a single 5 also fits. it's a double 5 that wouldn't, hence the slightly shorter 810 vehicles so a double 810 does fit in the platforms
From Doncaster it goes down the MML via Beighton and the Erewash line, but only Hull Trains practices this as they're the only ECML operator that were allowed paths
so why not just the IEP-style mix of 5-car and 9-car variants?
I don't know the exact reason. But I'm guessing that it's because between Bedford and London it's 100 max under the wires.
Could it also be because the demand from yet another train would be too much for the electricity supply? I seem to remember this being the reason why TPE have to run (some or all of?) their 802s in diesel along the ECML.
To be fair, yes it was reasonably priced. I think I got a fairly big bowl of tomato soup for something like £2.49 - wasn’t bad either!
