At that point was smoking outlawed on trains?
Must say they are usually on their own out of the way when I see them. I just can't be bothered to get involved.
The relevant byelaw is Number 3:
Railway Byelaws said:
This was one of the reasons the blanket ban was brought in on stations, open air or not. It was felt that there would be an effect on peformance - particularly on long-distance services - as the addicts got off the train for a cancer stick.
But without staff there, it makes it practically unenforceable and thus surely pointless?
Still comes down to what "near" means. If there's a sign at one end of a 12-coach platform, is the other end "near" the sign?
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As will I - it's an incredibly selfish, anti-social thing to do. In the case of a lone person smoking on an otherwise deserted open-aired platform, I'll most likely turn a blind eye, but in the vicinity of other passengers? No chance.
Same argument could be made about bus shelters. But the point is it is nicer and healthier for everyone.
In those days there were proper ash trays for disposing of the hot fag ends. Someone lighting up in a train toilet on the other hand will probably just bin it with the potential for something else in the bin to ignite.Amazing when smoking was permitted on Trains for well over a 100 Years how few fires there were
One of our guards was telling a story the other day of how he’d challenged some passengers for smoking, based on a strong smell of cigarette smoke in the carriage. They flatly denied it, so he read them the proverbial riot act: “well you clearly have been, I can smell it. It’s illegal to smoke on here, don’t you know? If you carry on I’ll have to call the BTP” etc.
Then he realised they were right at the front of the train and the smell was emanating from the active driving cab
Did he go and have words with the driver?One of our guards was telling a story the other day of how he’d challenged some passengers for smoking, based on a strong smell of cigarette smoke in the carriage. They flatly denied it, so he read them the proverbial riot act: “well you clearly have been, I can smell it. It’s illegal to smoke on here, don’t you know? If you carry on I’ll have to call the BTP” etc.
Then he realised they were right at the front of the train and the smell was emanating from the active driving cab
Whilst it might be nicer and healthier for everyone, what can they do to stop it as it is an unmanned train station?
I have seen this once.
Which is the reason that ashtrays are still included on every seat of aircraft.
I would but I’d be afraid of getting stabbed.
No smoking signs are present at most bus shelters. To avoid confusion on how surrounded that particular shelter is TfL and many other authorities just banned smoking in all of them.
Why can’t people be considerate and obey signage even when they are not being watched?
That would be lovely but we have a police force in this country for a reason.
That doesn't mean it should be allowed. There are lots of things that are not allowed but are difficult to enforce. Why does it matter that enforcement can't easily take place, thats not a reason to allow something.
It just seems futile to me.
So should other things where its not allowed to do something but no one is watching also just be given up on?
I was about to say the same - it is like saying that the speed limit for roads should be unlimited except where there are working speed cameras. Just because something is not always monitored doesn't make it futile.
