Stagecoach East Scotland

[RomeoCharlie71]

Arbroath currently have 11567/8, 22572 and 54364 all on loan to cover for buses used for BBC radio 1 big weekend in dundee this weekend

No they don't. They have 11566/7 and additionally 10917.

 

[BobbyBKinross]

Service Update published today by Stagecoach regarding the Perth & Kinross area changes.

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From Monday the 3rd of July, services in Perth and Kinross will have some changes made to them. Below are the changes -

Service 6 – 2145 from City Centre will no longer operate on Friday and Saturday.

Service 12, Gannochy/Murray Royal – City Centre – Oakbank: Additional School holiday only and Saturday journeys will operate in the afternoon.

Service 13, Perth City Centre – Dobbies: New journey at 1500 on Saturday from City Centre to Campsie Road.

Service 14/A Perth City Centre – Dobbies or Pitcairngreen: Additional afternoon journeys Monday to Saturday.

Service 16B, Perth – Dundee: Sunday evening journey 2025 from Perth to Dundee will now terminate at Inchture and will not operate between Inchture and Dundee. 2220 Dundee to Perth journey will no longer operate.

Service 17, Auchterarder – Dunning – Perth – Aviva: Slight adjustment to morning timetable.

Service 19 and 892 will no longer operate. (Withdrawn)

Service 23/27, Aberfeldy or Pitlochry – Ballinluig – Perth: Due to a loss in school contracts in the Aberfeldy area some school day only journeys will no longer operate.

Service 57/A, Dundee – Blairgowrie – Perth: Saturday and Sunday evening journeys will no longer be operated by Xplore Dundee and will be operated by Stagecoach. 57C renumbered to 57U.

Service 59, Dundee – Blairgowrie: 2202 Blairgowrie to Dundee journey will no longer operate and the 2300 Dundee to Blairgowrie will start 15 minutes later at 2315. New journey at 1920 on Sunday from Blairgowrie to Dundee.

Service 71, Blairgowrie – Tarvie: No longer serving Spittal of Glenshee. New timetable Monday to Saturday.

Service 202, Kinross – Dollar – Tillicoultry: This is a new service. (Currently operated by Bay Travel)

Timetables will appear in due course.

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Intresting to see the 202 tender been taken up by Stagecoach. I wonder which depot will operate it and what size of bus will be used. A lot of dead miles involved unless they plan on using or extending the daytime 56/201 services.

Overall it seems to be fairly negative service changes but with few improvements on certain routes.

 

[Bedford OB]

Service Update published today by Stagecoach regarding the Perth & Kinross area changes.

ServiceUpdatesArticle

www.stagecoachbus.com

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Intresting to see the 202 tender been taken up by Stagecoach. I wonder which depot will operate it and what size of bus will be used. A lot of dead miles involved unless they plan on using or extending the daytime 56/201 services.

Overall it seems to be fairly negative service changes but with few improvements on certain routes.

All Perth & Kinross Council supported services (all operators) have been retendered, with new contracts starting the first week of July. There will be service changes across the board as a result of the Council's review, and some operator changes as a result of the tender process. The Stagecoach changes reflect this.

 

[ajrm]

What's happening in Dundee bus wise, just increased frequencies?

No increased frequencies on the regular network but there's a major contract to shift event attendees from Slessor Gardens outside the rail station to a drop-off point next to the Kingsway. Plenty of double-deckers involved.

 

[overthewater]

Following on from McGill losing the school Contracts in West Fife, there is talk of further swapping of contract and routes between Bay Travel and Stagecoach. It's unclear who picked up what, i think we should expect some changes

 

[PaulMc7]

Does anyone know what the changes to the X24 and X27 involve yet?

 

[J Burns]

Where are the ex East Scanias going?

 

[cnjb8]

Where are the ex East Scanias going?

15456-63 are going to East Scotland

 

[J Burns]

Thanks, obvious answer. I wanted to know if it was known which depot(s) are getting them.

 

[overthewater]

I wouldn't surprise me if they end up at Rennie's for the F59 before heading elsewhere.

 

[overthewater]

Does anyone know what the changes to the X24 and X27 involve yet?

The timetable is now on Traveline Scotland. It seems the journeys to Glasgow are up to 10mins earlier?

 

[Butts]

Boarded a Jet 747 at Ferrytoll at 0408 on Wednesday Morning and it was absolutely rammed - A Single Decker with luggage taking up all the wheelchair space and people standing from end to end on the vehicle all the way to the Airport.

Ironically a double decker had just gone in the opposite direction!!

I think it is possible people could be denied boarding if this pattern is repeated over the coming months.

Wonder if it will ever go back to a twenty minute frequency like it used to be at certain times?

 

[Fifescottish]

Boarded a Jet 747 at Ferrytoll at 0408 on Wednesday Morning and it was absolutely rammed - A Single Decker with luggage taking up all the wheelchair space and people standing from end to end on the vehicle all the way to the Airport.

Ironically a double decker had just gone in the opposite direction!!

I think it is possible people could be denied boarding if this pattern is repeated over the coming months.

Wonder if it will ever go back to a twenty minute frequency like it used to be at certain times?

Going back to a 20 min frequency from the 26th June

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Timetable change to 19 and JET 747 services from Monday 26th June19 May 2023 to 09 Jul 2023​

From Monday 26th June, there will be changes to services 19 and JET 747. Also, services 85 and 86 will be cancelled.

19 - We will make minor timetable changes to improve reliability. Also, the route has been revised in Ballingry to revert to pre-7th November 2022 service change. Please see new timetable here.

JET 747 - There will be an increase in frequency from every 30 minutes to every 20 minutes throughout the day. Please see new timetable here

 

[Butts]

Going back to a 20 min frequency from the 26th June

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Excellent, still a horrible gap between 0050 and 0220 from the Airport - believe me it wouldn't be the first even BA's last flight has come in late enough to arrive around 1am and Ryanair flights I've been on as well.

 

[DunsBus]

Volvo B5LH/ADL E400MMC 13042 (SJ15PUX) met a fiery end in Dundee this afternoon whilst on a 73A.

Passengers evacuated as bus destroyed by fire in Dundee

Emergency services were called to the blaze in Strathearn Road, Dundee, at about 14:30.

www.bbc.co.uk

Passengers have escaped without injury after a double-decker bus was destroyed by fire in Dundee.

Emergency services were called to the blaze on a Stagecoach bus on Strathearn Road at about 14:30.

The bus operator said all passengers were safely evacuated. The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service confirmed that there were no reported casualties.

A Stagecoach spokesperson said: "Safety is our priority and we are investigating the circumstances."

Police Scotland said road closures were in place on Strathern Road, Crawford Place, Fairfield Road and at Ralston Road.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Volvo B5LH/ADL E400MMC 13042 (SJ15PUX) met a fiery end in Dundee this afternoon whilst on a 73A.

While hopefully just a complete coincidence, you would certainly hope this has no similarities to the fire on Lothian’s 11 barely over a week ago. Both Volvo Hybrids and I want to say both very similar mechanically?

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

While hopefully just a complete coincidence, you would certainly hope this has no similarities to the fire on Lothian’s 11 barely over a week ago. Both Volvo Hybrids and I want to say both very similar mechanically?

The 7900s are B5LHs

 

[kez19]

Volvo B5LH/ADL E400MMC 13042 (SJ15PUX) met a fiery end in Dundee this afternoon whilst on a 73A.

Passengers evacuated as bus destroyed by fire in Dundee

Emergency services were called to the blaze in Strathearn Road, Dundee, at about 14:30.

www.bbc.co.uk

I noticed (no expert here), but on bustimes it started as a 39 then ran as a 73 then it stopped tracking on Strathern Road (about 1421 or just after), would the bus had any kind of mechanical warning beforehand? I mean let’s say in theory the bus starts it’s run in the morning would anything been noticed then or would it be within the last few minutes prior to the fire? I know this may read as if I’m speculating but I’m not just wondering the mechanics of it all.

I’m also surprised it seems to be the hybrids as I’m guessing it’s not only Stagecoach and as someone mentioned Lothian too I do wonder if they’ll be an investigation as to what why and how it happened.

 

[Blindtraveler]

It would be quite reassuring from a passenger perspective to see an investigation, there are hundreds of these running around in London on one body shell or another and other cities too, I think Manchester have some just as an example

 

[kez19]

It would be quite reassuring from a passenger perspective to see an investigation, there are hundreds of these running around in London on one body shell or another and other cities too, I think Manchester have some just as an example

Pretty much I reckon most bus companies do, I’m just surprised that it seems to be the younger buses not older (as you would expect)

 

[roadierway77]

Quite poor planning from Stagecoach today - the Royal Highland Show is still on and Edinburgh Pride is today, yet not a single double decker on the X55. On board an X55 service just now and we've had to leave Rosyth and Ferrytoll passengers behind. None of the Fife-Edinburgh express routes seem to have any deckers allocated today. I find it quite ironic that despite the recent coach shortage, the depots have managed to put a coach on almost every diagram today when decker capacity and vehicles rated for standees would be very beneficial.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

None of the Fife-Edinburgh express routes seem to have any deckers allocated today.

Don’t Stagecoach supply a lot of the in-site shuttles at the Royal Highland Show? If so, this is probably causing them to not run them on the X55, which normally happens every weekend.

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Quite poor planning from Stagecoach today - the Royal Highland Show is still on and Edinburgh Pride is today, yet not a single double decker on the X55. On board an X55 service just now and we've had to leave Rosyth and Ferrytoll passengers behind. None of the Fife-Edinburgh express routes seem to have any deckers allocated today. I find it quite ironic that despite the recent coach shortage, the depots have managed to put a coach on almost every diagram today when decker capacity and vehicles rated for standees would be very beneficial.

Don’t Stagecoach supply a lot of the in-site shuttles at the Royal Highland Show? If so, this is probably causing them to not run them on the X55, which normally happens every weekend.

Don't think there's any in-site shuttles as such, but they do seem to be focusing on providing duplicates on the 747 (which makes sense, IMO). There was also an event in Dunfermline today which Stagecoach were providing transport for using Rennies' Tridents

 

[overthewater]

Quite poor planning from Stagecoach today - the Royal Highland Show is still on and Edinburgh Pride is today, yet not a single double decker on the X55. On board an X55 service just now and we've had to leave Rosyth and Ferrytoll passengers behind. None of the Fife-Edinburgh express routes seem to have any deckers allocated today. I find it quite ironic that despite the recent coach shortage, the depots have managed to put a coach on almost every diagram today when decker capacity and vehicles rated for standees would be very beneficial.

There isn't really a coach shortage at Dunfermline as they use B8; in fact they have the newest coaches in the fleet. With the Highland show, there are at least 6 duplicates running about on top of the 747 normal runs which are mainly decker operated today, so it's not poor planning. However there are no spare drivers run dupes on the Edinburgh expresses.

Come the Edinburgh festival, the only possible solution has to be F59, does anyone know if it is coming back?

 

[fife_circle]

Why did east Scotland only purchase two 400EVs? (One in Perth and one in Dunfermline) Is there more coming or did they only order the two?

 

[computerSaysNo]

There isn't really a coach shortage at Dunfermline as they use B8; in fact they have the newest coaches in the fleet. With the Highland show, there are at least 6 duplicates running about on top of the 747 normal runs which are mainly decker operated today, so it's not poor planning. However there are no spare drivers run dupes on the Edinburgh expresses.

Come the Edinburgh festival, the only possible solution has to be F59, does anyone know if it is coming back?

What is B8 and F59?

 

[roadierway77]

Don't think there's any in-site shuttles as such, but they do seem to be focusing on providing duplicates on the 747 (which makes sense, IMO). There was also an event in Dunfermline today which Stagecoach were providing transport for using Rennies' Tridents

There isn't really a coach shortage at Dunfermline as they use B8; in fact they have the newest coaches in the fleet. With the Highland show, there are at least 6 duplicates running about on top of the 747 normal runs which are mainly decker operated today, so it's not poor planning. However there are no spare drivers run dupes on the Edinburgh expresses.

Ideally though there shouldn't be as heavy a focus on the singular event, but yes I can understand why a number of deckers are on RHS shuttles. However I do believe a higher number of diagrams should have been operated with deckers today - there are a number not being used which could have been put onto Edinburgh express routes instead of coaches to help with demand, as duplicate runs aren't possible. Though of course I also understand spare deckers may be undergoing maintenance. I took the AB1 back to Fife today as I didn't want to risk the express services being full (and overly hot).

Dunfermline doesn't have a coach shortage no but recently Aberhill and Glenrothes appear to.

What is B8 and F59?

B8 would be short for B8RLE i.e. Plaxton Panther LEs. I believe the F59 was a special events version of the X59 - it ran during the Fringe for example to provide extra capacity.

Come the Edinburgh festival, the only possible solution has to be F59, does anyone know if it is coming back?

The F59 registration was cancelled a few weeks back, so it seems unclear if it will or not.

 

[overthewater]

Ideally though there shouldn't be as heavy a focus on the singular event, but yes I can understand why a number of deckers are on RHS shuttles. However I do believe a higher number of diagrams should have been operated with deckers today - there are a number not being used which could have been put onto Edinburgh express routes instead of coaches to help with demand, as duplicate runs aren't possible. Though of course I also understand spare deckers may be undergoing maintenance. I took the AB1 back to Fife today as I didn't want to risk the express services being full (and overly hot).

If you check the bus trackers it would seem one of the Highland Show deckers was diverted to operate a run from Ferrytoll to Edinburgh around midday .

 

[Highland050261]

E400 19621-35 and 15456-63 are coming to east scotland.

 

[roadierway77]

E400 19621-35 and 15456-63 are coming to east scotland.

457, 459 and 461 have already moved up and are at Glenrothes.

I assume these'll be replacing some of the oldest Tridents.

I've noticed a few cancellations have shown up on VOL (Vehicle Operator Licensing) sandwiched among the routine school contract changes. I wonder if more cuts are coming:

• PM0000004/410 Cancelled​

  FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD
  Route: Ladybank rail station to St Andrews bus station
  Service number: F094S (94A, 94)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Aug 2023

• PM0000004/708 Cancelled​

  FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD
  Route: Newburgh to St Andrews
  Service number: F094X (94X)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Aug 2023

• PM0000004/373 Cancelled​

  FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD
  Route: Dunfermline bus station to North Queensferry railway station
  Service number: F087 (87)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Aug 2023

• PM0000004/409 Cancelled​

  FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD
  Route: Newburgh High Street to Ladybank rail station
  Service number: F094N (94A, 94)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Aug 2023

• PM0000004/679 Cancelled​

  FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD
  Route: Dunfermline bus station to Dalgety Bay St Davids
  Service number: F083 (83)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Aug 2023

• PM0000004/927 Cancelled​

  FIFE SCOTTISH OMNIBUSES LTD
  Route: Lochgelly Bank Street to Lochgelly Bank Street
  Service number: F020A (20, 20A)
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 14 Aug 2023