Utility cycling, hills and other practicalities - the Netherlands vs. elsewhere

[Bikeman78]

Buses can also be driven extremely badly, especially against cyclists. Bus only restrictions are useful for reducing the overall volume of traffic on a road, but I'd still want a separate cycle lane if there's room for it.

I've very rarely had any bother with buses. They have several external cameras and the company name written all over them. Only an utter fool would try anything. I did have an altercation last year where a bus drove far too close. He refused to back off so I went slower and slower and then stopped. It never occurred to the driver to move over to the next lane and overtake.

 

[zwk500]

I've very rarely had any bother with buses. They have several external cameras and the company name written all over them. Only an utter fool would try anything. I did have an altercation last year where a bus drove far too close. He refused to back off so I went slower and slower and then stopped. It never occurred to the driver to move over to the next lane and overtake.

I've seen plenty of examples of bad bus driving against cycling online, although how representative they are is another question. The cameras and traceability apply to most motorists these days, yet the argumentative spirit still exists.

 

[Shaw S Hunter]

I've seen plenty of examples of bad bus driving against cycling online, although how representative they are is another question. The cameras and traceability apply to most motorists these days, yet the argumentative spirit still exists.

Back in the day (way back!) I used to manage the opposite: London's old (DMS) Fleetlines were brilliant for slipstreaming. Catching them as they set off from a stop going uphill would allow a decent length tow while they slowly got up to speed.