SWR outgoing Metro fleet withdrawals (complete)

[Siemens Staines]

455870 15/12/22

455870 is in passenger service today (14/04) on 2J07 0636 London Waterloo to Hampton Court

One slightly unusual working this morning was 458535 + 458534 on 1A16 0641 Alton to London Waterloo
This is probably a hangover from yesterdays disruption

 

[Elorith]

Hearing rumours that with the May timetable change more 707s will be pulled off the Shepperton line with them going all over the suburban network

Would certainly make a lot of sense for them to be on the busier diagrams than running them, say, in the down direction to Shepperton at 08:00...

 

[swr444]

458509 27/03/22 (one year anniversary)

458509 is back in service today on 1N91. Just saw it leaving Wimbledon Park depot

 

[TEW]

Hearing rumours that with the May timetable change more 707s will be pulled off the Shepperton line with them going all over the suburban network

Would certainly make a lot of sense for them to be on the busier diagrams than running them, say, in the down direction to Shepperton at 08:00...

My guess based on what I've seen is that the diagram starting with the 0701 Dorking-Waterloo goes over to 707. The rest of the day this works Hampton Court/ Guildford via Epsom.

 

[swr444]

My guess based on what I've seen is that the diagram starting with the 0701 Dorking-Waterloo goes over to 707. The rest of the day this works Hampton Court/ Guildford via Epsom.

They’ll have to start training more guards and drivers on them again as those routes are worked by many depots that don’t sign them… will be interesting to see

 

[TEW]

They’ll have to start training more guards and drivers on them again as those routes are worked by many depots that don’t sign them… will be interesting to see

The May diagrams appear to have been altered to take account of the fact they will be 707.

 

[Goldfish62]

Hearing rumours that with the May timetable change more 707s will be pulled off the Shepperton line with them going all over the suburban network

Would certainly make a lot of sense for them to be on the busier diagrams than running them, say, in the down direction to Shepperton at 08:00...

Scrabbling around for 10 car trains on the busiest services. It's getting critical now with services getting busier.

 

[Robert Carroll]

My guess based on what I've seen is that the diagram starting with the 0701 Dorking-Waterloo goes over to 707. The rest of the day this works Hampton Court/ Guildford via Epsom.

That would be very welcome. I get on at Worcester Park and stopped using this service months ago because it was often rammed.

 

[TEW]

That would be very welcome. I get on at Worcester Park and stopped using this service months ago because it was often rammed.

I'm surprised you managed to find an alternative along there that was much better!

 

[Elorith]

Scrabbling around for 10 car trains on the busiest services. It's getting critical now with services getting busier.

I think off-peak performance might be one other factor

 

[swr444]

With more 458s fixed and back into service I wonder if we’ll see a few more diagrams with them pop up. Either that or it’ll allow a few 450s to be released from the suburban services.

 

[Robert Carroll]

I'm surprised you managed to find an alternative along there that was much better!

Only by catching the 06:46 from Worcester Park instead.

 

[geoffk]

Probably the wrong thread but is there any chance of the 701s entering service any time soon? Surely a few heads need to "roll". Too many fleets are being withdrawn before their replacements are ready.

 

[swr444]

Probably the wrong thread but is there any chance of the 701s entering service any time soon? Surely a few heads need to "roll". Too many fleets are being withdrawn before their replacements are ready.

Check the 701 thread and you’ll see there’s no sign of any coming in service any time soon.

 

[geoffk]

Check the 701 thread and you’ll see there’s no sign of any coming in service any time soon.

Thanks. A thread with 177 pages - speaks for itself!

 

[Siemens Staines]

455719 14/01/23

455719 is in passenger service today (27/04) on 2M05 0616 London Waterloo to Chessington South

 

[GW43125]

Excellent news, I need that one.

Does anyone know the status of 455722 and 455732 please?

 

[WarrenTManager]

5722 on 5Z50 XWP-WOK-XWP test run today. Currently on return leg. Hope we aren't foiled again on this attempt.

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Excellent news, I need that one.

Does anyone know the status of 455722 and 455732 please?

5732 is having coach heights measured and adjusted after a wheelset change and some attention to cab cooling.

 

[swr444]

5722 on 5Z50 XWP-WOK-XWP test run today. Currently on return leg. Hope we aren't foiled again on this attempt.

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5732 is having coach heights measured and adjusted after a wheelset change and some attention to cab cooling.

Looks like it ran into problems around Surbiton?

 

[WarrenTManager]

Looks like it ran into problems around Surbiton?

It was stuck behind a 2F stopper on the slow all the way back from what I saw watching it on OTT maps. It looked to always be on the move. The times shown on RTT miss a huge chunk between Woking and Hampton Court Junction which make it look worse. Genius shows 9L at Walton-on-Thames.

 

[swr444]

It was stuck behind a 2F stopper on the slow all the way back from what I saw watching it on OTT maps. It looked to always be on the move. The times shown on RTT miss a huge chunk between Woking and Hampton Court Junction which make it look worse. Genius shows 9L at Walton-onThames.

Ah that makes a lot of sense, good to know it wasn't a problem with the unit itself!

 

[37166]

Does anyone know how 5905 is progressing? TIA

 

[GW43125]

5722 on 5Z50 XWP-WOK-XWP test run today. Currently on return leg. Hope we aren't foiled again on this attempt.

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5732 is having coach heights measured and adjusted after a wheelset change and some attention to cab cooling.

Thank you.

 

[Siemens Staines]

Yesterday was 01/05/23, so it is time for me to post an update of the list of 458 & 455 that I have not recorded working in passenger service for over a month. The dates below are the last date that I have noticed them appear on a passenger train on RTT. This date is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.

458502 24/03/23
458506 09/11/22
458533 28/01/22

List excludes Off-lease 458505,507,517

455721 10/03/23
455722 06/12/22
455724 04/02/23
455849 04/02/23
455850 27/06/22
455863 02/03/23
455902 15/12/22
455905 04/07/22
455909 14/03/23
455915 23/10/22

List excludes Scrapped 455704,726,736,740,847,855,907,918

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Yesterday was 01/05/23, so it is time for me to post an update of the list of 458 & 455 that I have not recorded working in passenger service for over a month. The dates below are the last date that I have noticed them appear on a passenger train on RTT. This date is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.

458502 24/03/23
458506 09/11/22
458533 28/01/22

List excludes Off-lease 458505,507,517

455721 10/03/23
455722 06/12/22
455724 04/02/23
455849 04/02/23
455850 27/06/22
455863 02/03/23
455902 15/12/22
455905 04/07/22
455909 14/03/23
455915 23/10/22

List excludes Scrapped 455704,726,736,740,847,855,907,918

Every unit you post on this list seems to eventually make it back into service later, so what is the purpose of the absences? Exams I'm assuming.

 

[Snow1964]

Every unit you post on this list seems to eventually make it back into service later, so what is the purpose of the absences? Exams I'm assuming.

Seems to be a game of chicken by SWR, unit needs an exam or out of hours, so they park it, then another one needs exam so insufficient units, so patch one up.

Problem is will get to point where it isn't a minor or intermediate exam and start to get lots stopped needing serious work which costs big money.

The real crunch will come mid September when holiday season ends and get to busiest time of the year and 8car trains won't cope Tuesday-Thursday

 

[444045]

Yesterday was 01/05/23, so it is time for me to post an update of the list of 458 & 455 that I have not recorded working in passenger service for over a month. The dates below are the last date that I have noticed them appear on a passenger train on RTT. This date is not guaranteed to be 100% accurate.

458502 24/03/23
458506 09/11/22
458533 28/01/22

List excludes Off-lease 458505,507,517

455721 10/03/23
455722 06/12/22
455724 04/02/23
455849 04/02/23
455850 27/06/22
455863 02/03/23
455902 15/12/22
455905 04/07/22
455909 14/03/23
455915 23/10/22

List excludes Scrapped 455704,726,736,740,847,855,907,918

Thanks for the update @Siemens Staines .

U.5849 is at Bournemouth Depot on C4 - went down last week.

 

[Towers]

The real crunch will come mid September when holiday season ends and get to busiest time of the year and 8car trains won't cope Tuesday-Thursday

I’m not sure “won’t cope” is in the DfT’s lexicon any more is it? ‘We ran a train, the end’ seems more in line with current attitudes, who’s counting how many were left behind?! And precious little that TOCs can do about it.

 

[WarrenTManager]

5905 moved from outside to the lift shop last week, now in the main shed. Looks close to complete, I would imagine a return to service exam and main line test run are the next steps

 

[Siemens Staines]

455849 04/02/23

455849 is in passenger service today (17/05) on 2H93 1743 London Waterloo to Shepperton