King Charles III coronation timetables (Saturday 6th May)

[philosopher]

What timetable plans do railway operators have for King Charles III coronation on Saturday 6th May? Are any operators running enhanced or perhaps reduced timetables?

I can imagine flows on Saturday 6th will be very high into London in the morning and out of London in the late afternoon / evening. Elsewhere on the network I am guessing flows will be lower than a normal Saturday.

 

[Dstock7080]

LU have normal Saturday service with usual Night Tube on Saturday night.

 

[jojoseph72]

So far I haven’t heard or seen anything from any TOC, but if they were to put on extra services my bet is it would most likely be a repeat of what TOCs did for the Queens death.

 

[Watershed]

It's not so much a question of what the TOCs are planning as what the RMT and ASLEF are...

 

[irish_rail]

It's not so much a question of what the TOCs are planning as what the RMT and ASLEF are...

Safe from Aslef at least as they are meeting again April 26th. The synic in me suggests RDG have done that on purpose as when they inevitably make no offer and walk away , the earliest strike date will be may 10th (after the coronation). It'll be peoples summer holidays ruined instead, but do the RDG really care about mere mortals?.

 

[dk1]

Safe from Aslef at least as they are meeting again April 26th. The synic in me suggests RDG have done that on purpose as when they inevitably make no offer and walk away , the earliest strike date will be may 10th (after the coronation). It'll be peoples summer holidays ruined instead, but do the RDG really care about mere mortals?.

I suppose a strike could always be announce prior to the 26th though to add pressure to the negotiations.

 

[newtownmgr]

It's not so much a question of what the TOCs are planning as what the RMT and ASLEF are...

I believe both unions have already stated they will not strike over that weekend.

 

[philosopher]

I believe both unions have already stated they will not strike over that weekend.

I too would be very surprised if there was a strike on that weekend given they deliberately avoided striking after the queen’s death. While strikes I think are not intended to be popular with the public, they would be absolutely vilified in the press if they chose to strike on the weekend of Charles III’s coronation.

 

[Bald Rick]

What timetable plans do railway operators have for King Charles III coronation on Saturday 6th May? Are any operators running enhanced or perhaps reduced timetables?

I can imagine flows on Saturday 6th will be very high into London in the morning and out of London in the late afternoon / evening. Elsewhere on the network I am guessing flows will be lower than a normal Saturday.

Generally a normal service on Saturday, and some extra services to/from Windsor for the concert on the Sunday.

Disruptive engineering works on routes into London on the Saturday have been postponed.

 

[Class 170101]

Generally a normal service on Saturday, and some extra services to/from Windsor for the concert on the Sunday.

Disruptive engineering works on routes into London on the Saturday have been postponed.

To Sunday and Monday

 

[Bald Rick]

To Sunday and Monday

Some of them, but not all.

 

[TrainTrackJack]

I take it there will be no need for such relief trains laid on for the state funeral last year - Avantis performance hasn't called for extras so far this year?

 

[philosopher]

I take it there will be no need for such relief trains laid on for the state funeral last year - Avantis performance hasn't called for extras so far this year?

Do Avanti have the resources to run additional trains?

 

[Hadders]

I wouldn't have thought the coronation itself would cause many more passengers to travel into London. @ChiefPlanner has toldb first hand stories of passenger numbers for Diana's funeral being a bit of a dam squib, despite it being a huge event for the country.

 

[philosopher]

I wouldn't have thought the coronation itself would cause many more passengers to travel into London. @ChiefPlanner has toldb first hand stories of passenger numbers for Diana's funeral being a bit of a dam squib, despite it being a huge event for the country.

Across the course of the day I think this would be the case. However on a normal Saturday demand would be somewhat spread out. On the day of the coronation I can imagine there would be loads of people wanting to arrive into London between 7am and 10am but few during the rest of the day.

 

[Hadders]

Across the course of the day I think this would be the case. However on a normal Saturday demand would be somewhat spread out. On the day of the coronation I can imagine there would be loads of people wanting to arrive into London between 7am and 10am but few during the rest of the day.

Like the weekday morning peak then (excluding Friday!)

 

[dk1]

Across the course of the day I think this would be the case. However on a normal Saturday demand would be somewhat spread out. On the day of the coronation I can imagine there would be loads of people wanting to arrive into London between 7am and 10am but few during the rest of the day.

You’ll have another large proportion of people who will also not venture down to London that day due to the anticipated crowds.

 

[Bald Rick]

I wouldn't have thought the coronation itself would cause many more passengers to travel into London. @ChiefPlanner has toldb first hand stories of passenger numbers for Diana's funeral being a bit of a dam squib, despite it being a huge event for the country.

And much more recently, for the late Queen’s funeral, where passenger numbers were much reduced.

 

[theageofthetra]

It's not so much a question of what the TOCs are planning as what the RMT and ASLEF are...

ASLEF meeting scheduled for 26th Apr, that would give less than the two weeks notice required.

 

[ChiefPlanner]

I wouldn't have thought the coronation itself would cause many more passengers to travel into London. @ChiefPlanner has toldb first hand stories of passenger numbers for Diana's funeral being a bit of a dam squib, despite it being a huge event for the country.

Never to be forgotten that ! - an 0300 start for not much results really (and after a massive planning excercise) - so I went home once the "Royal" to Long Buckby was safely off the patch and had a nap.

The normal Saturday service was more than enough , - not that anyone really travelled - the whole nation watched it on TV , bar the flower throwers along the M1 once the hearse passed.

 

[philosopher]

And much more recently, for the late Queen’s funeral, where passenger numbers were much reduced.

For the late Queen’s funeral most shops and attractions were shut which meant there would have been far less travel to visit shops and attractions. If the same happens with the coronation, then I can’t really see much demand for travel for much of the day.

 

[Bald Rick]

For the late Queen’s funeral most shops and attractions were shut which meant there would have been far less travel to visit shops and attractions. If the same happens with the coronation, then I can’t really see much demand for travel for much of the day.

exactly. Although interestingly the Premier League still has a few fixtures that afternoon, as do the lower leagues in Scotland.

 

[barbette165]

Chiltern have the following on their planned changes calendar

Saturday 6th May 2023:

An amended timetable will be in operation, in respect of the following:

• Special event - King Charles III Coronation (London).

An enhanced timetable will be in operation for most of the day, with some additional and specially-lengthened trains.

 

[deltic]

GWR have a number of very early morning trains starting around 3am from Swansea, Penzance, Plymouth and Bristol into Paddington

 

[Watershed]

GWR have a number of very early morning trains starting around 3am from Swansea, Penzance, Plymouth and Bristol into Paddington

Can't see those lasting, given the latest news from the RMT...

 

[dk1]

Additional ‘last’ trains from Liverpool Street announced by Greater Anglia on Saturday night/Sunday morning.

Cambridge - 00:36
Colchester - 00:46
Ipswich/Norwich - 00:40
Southend Victoria - 01:25

 

[DaveHarries]

From GWR:

First trains:
- from Swansea: 0356 (1L01)
- from Cardiff Central: 0514 (also 1L01 which arr. Cardiff Central 0448)
- from Gloucester: 0605 (1L61).
- from Cheltenham: no trains all day. First replacement bus to Gloucester scheduled for 0515 to arr. Gloucester 0535.
- from Penzance: 0316 (1A71)
- from Plymouth: 0008 (1A51: ECS working 2156 Bristol TM - Plymouth as 5A51 after working 1C32)
- from Westbury: 0809 (1A73)
- from Bristol Temple Meads: 0330 (1A00)
- from Weston-s-Mare: 0529 (1A03)

Last return trains from Paddington:
- to Swansea: 2048 (1B35)
- to Cardiff Central: 2048 (1B35)
- to Gloucester: 1928 (1G29)
- to Penzance: 1804 (1C92)
- to Plymouth: 2004 (1C96)
- to Westbury: 2004 (1C96)
- to Bristol Temple Meads: 2332 (1C38)
- to Weston-s-Mare: 1732 (1C25)

Source: RealTimeTrains, https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...23-05-06/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Dave

 

[irish_rail]

From GWR:

First trains:
- from Swansea: 0356 (1L01)
- from Cardiff Central: 0514 (also 1L01 which arr. Cardiff Central 0448)
- from Gloucester: 0605 (1L61).
- from Cheltenham: no trains all day. First replacement bus to Gloucester scheduled for 0515 to arr. Gloucester 0535.
- from Penzance: 0316 (1A71)
- from Plymouth: 0008 (1A51: ECS working 2156 Bristol TM - Plymouth as 5A51 after working 1C32)
- from Westbury: 0809 (1A73)
- from Bristol Temple Meads: 0330 (1A00)
- from Weston-s-Mare: 0529 (1A03)

Last return trains from Paddington:
- to Swansea: 2048 (1B35)
- to Cardiff Central: 2048 (1B35)
- to Gloucester: 1928 (1G29)
- to Penzance: 1804 (1C92)
- to Plymouth: 2004 (1C96)
- to Westbury: 2004 (1C96)
- to Bristol Temple Meads: 2332 (1C38)
- to Weston-s-Mare: 1732 (1C25)

Source: RealTimeTrains, https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...23-05-06/0000-2359?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt

Dave

Crikey , be interesting to see where they find those extra drivers on a Saturday!

 

[M&NEJ]

Do Avanti have the resources to run additional trains?

This morning (Saturday) there are the usual Avanti cancellations north of Preston - I bet Avanti will just try and run the service they should normally be offering, and that would be quite an achievement!

 

[TFN]

MTR Elizabeth Line will have a later finish on Sunday through the core.