Envoy
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Why does Real Times Trains still mark TfW trains as being operated by AW (Arriva Wales) when this has not been the case for years.
Don't over think it, why change it when it doesn't need to be.Why does Real Times Trains still mark TfW trains as being operated by AW (Arriva Wales) when this has not been the case for years.
The really silly thing about this is the TOCs already have Arbitrary 2-letter codes in things like TPS - e.g. SWR are HY, Northern are ED, GWR are EF. http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/operators/servicegroups.shtmThis is a typical IT dilemma. Often you will have a code in the background representing something, e.g. the name of an assignment group on a helpdesk, so that you can change the display text later if you want. But people object if that code in the background looks too much like the text and then the text changes like it has here.
The way you avoid this is by having the code *not* resemble the text, e.g. you'd just number the TOCs arbitrarily, or use arbitrary random letter codes. But we are where we are.
LD happens to be one of the few cases where the public timetable code is the same as the internal business code. Probably because the other options don't work (as you said), so it may be simpler to make the two match.Lumo can't be LM, LO (London Overground), or LU (London Underground), so LD it is.
Locomotive Services (LS) are the only other TOC where they match.LD happens to be one of the few cases where the public timetable code is the same as the internal business code. Probably because the other options don't work (as you said), so it may be simpler to make the two match.
The South Central case seems to be unique in that it's flipped between the two (See http://www.railwaycodes.org.uk/operators/franchises1.shtm#sn). However it's never been impossible to change, just not worth the bother. In this situation, confusion with a scottish operator is possible so this may have prompted the change (Scotrail using SR). Or the new Franchisee had a strong desire to change the code (Notably GNER changed from EC to GR in 1997).It has always seemed a little strange to me that nowadays the codes seem to be set in stone, whereas it doesn’t seem that long ago (2005? Wikipedia says 2003 but doesn’t cite a reference, and that sounds too early to me.) that South Central rebranded to Southern and had their code changed from SC to SN; just a simple rebranding and not even a franchise renewal or anything.

No consultants needed for something like this. TOC would ask for the change, NR would tell them the price and then its be up to the TOC to fund it.Don't forget that changing things like this costs money, and with the DfT and Treasury controlling much of the railway at present, there are far more important things to spend the reducing income on, than changing a code that doesn't really matter. The way the railway seems to work nowadays, you would need to have a committee of 100 people (and half of those would be expensive consultants) to ensure that everyone agrees to the change![]()
Not the only other, EM is the business code and timetable code for East Midlands Railway.Locomotive Services (LS) are the only other TOC where they match.