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Cumbria area service changes – 11th April 2011

Stagecoach is making a number of changes to services from the above date, particularly affecting services throughout the Lake District, as we introduce our 2011 season timetables. In addition, a number of longer-distance routes throughout the County will have some service number changes. Full details are given below (in service number order).

30, 31 Maryport – Workington – Whitehaven – Thornhill or Frizington
A revised Monday to Saturday timetable will be in operation, with many journey times changing. The frequency of buses and overall level of service will remain the same.

38 Carlisle – Silloth
We are pleased to announce our new summer Sunday service for 2011, providing three return trips per day between Carlisle and Silloth. This service commences on Sunday 10th April and runs until Sunday 30th October.

66 Carlisle – Blackwell – Durdar – Stoneraise School
There will be some minor timetable changes, following customer suggestions. The journeys which currently operate on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays only, will now operate throughout the week, but check the new timetable carefully, as some journey times will change.

73, 73A, 74 Calbeck Rambler (Carlisle – Caldbeck – Keswick)
The timetable will be revised, with buses between Carlisle and Caldbeck operating as service 74, then changing at Caldbeck to become service 73/73A. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus, as the buses will simply change their number in Caldbeck.
In addition, we will be operating a new daily return journey from Carlisle to Keswick, which will provide extra opportunities for customers wishing to travel direct, but for whom the 554 times are not suitable.

77, 77A Honister Rambler services
These services will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

78 Keswick – Seatoller
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

86 Keswick – Portinscale
The return journeys leaving Keswick at 1011 and 1311 hours will be withdrawn. Customers should alternatively use services 77 and 77A instead.

106 Penrith – Shap – Kendal
The Stagecoach journeys on this service will show the number 107 between Penrith and Shap. At Shap, the bus will then change number to 106 before continuing to Kendal. There will be no changes to the timetable and journeys provided by Apollo 8 travel will remain unaffected throughout.

108 Penrith – Patterdale Hotel
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, with minor changes to the Sunday times.

300, 301 Carlisle – Wigton – Aspatria – Maryport – Workington – Whitehaven
These services will be revised to become:
300 Carlisle – Wigton – Aspatria – Maryport
with guaranteed connections at Maryport for
301, 302 Maryport – Workington – Lillyhall (302) / Harrington (301) – Whitehaven
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate these bus services, route 300/301 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Maryport and then Maryport to Whitehaven. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Maryport, as the buses will simply change their number at Curzon Street.

As a result of the above, there will be some minor timetable changes, but the overall level of service will remain the same. Between Workington and Whitehaven, buses on what will be service 302 will now have an even 30 minute frequency throughout the day.

505 Windermere – Coniston
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

516 Ambleside – Dungeon Ghyll
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

517 Bowness – Glenridding
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

530, 531 Kendal – Grange – Cartmel / Cark / Flookburgh
In connection with additional school journeys that Stagecoach are now providing to Priory School (Cartmel), additional shoppers journeys have been introduced from the Grange peninsula area to/from Kendal. Please refer to the new timetable for details.

552 Kendal – Arnside
From 30th April 2011, Cumbria County Council is ceasing subsidy, which currently provides for a number of journeys to divert via Levens Village. As a result, this service will no longer serve Levens Village after 30th April, but there will be no other changes to the timetable.

554 Carlisle – Wigton – Keswick
This service will be revised to become:
553 Carlisle – Wigton
with guaranteed connections at Wigton for
554 Wigton – Keswick
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route 554 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Wigton and then Wigton to Keswick. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Wigton, as the buses will simply change their number at King Street.
For the 2011 season, we are making some changes to the timetable. The first journey will be delayed from Carlisle to allow concessionary travellers to use their passes. At the same time, we have also tried to improve connections with the 685 service, following customer requests.

555, 556, X55 Lancaster – Kendal – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere – Keswick
A revised timetable will be in operation for the summer 2011 season, to try and improve reliability. In addition, following customer requests, several Monday to Saturday late evening journeys will divert to serve Bowness on Windermere, operating as far as Bowness Pier.

567 Kendal – Kirkby Lonsdale
Minor timetable changes will be introduced.

599 Bowness – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere (Open Top route)
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

600 Carlisle – Wigton – Cockermouth – Whitehaven
This service will be revised to become:
600 Carlisle – Wigton – Cockermouth
with guaranteed connections at Cockermouth for
601 Cockermouth – Lakes College – Whitehaven
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route 600 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Cockermouth and then Cockermouth to Whitehaven. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Cockermouth, as the buses will simply change their number at Main Street.

As a result of the above, there will be some minor timetable changes, but the overall level of service will remain the same. There will be morning peak time changes between Cockermouth and Lakes College.

685 Carlisle – Brampton – Haltwhistle – Hexham – Newcastle
The Stagecoach Sunday journeys between Carlisle and Hexham will be revised. In addition, on Sundays only, buses will display 85 as the service number between Haltwhistle and Hexham, instead of 685.

X4, X5 Workington – Cockermouth – Keswick – Penrith
These services will be revised to become:
X5 Workington – Cockermouth – Embleton – Thornthwaite – Braithwaite – Keswick
with guaranteed connections at Keswick for
X50 Keswick – Threlkeld – Penruddock – Stainton – Penrith
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route X4/X5 will be split into two sections, operating Workington to Keswick and then Keswick to Penrith. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Keswick, as the buses will simply change their number at the bus station.

At the same time, we will be revising the route and timetable to allow all buses to operate the X5 route between Workington and Keswick. As a result, the X4 route variation will no longer operate and customers for the east side of Bassenthwaite Lake should use services 73, 554 and X58 instead.
We are taking the opportunity to try and improve train connection opportunities at Penrith and there will be an improved early morning and late evening service for Stainton, following customer requests. Most buses will also operate via Stainton on Sundays too.

X8 Chorley – Preston – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere – Keswick
This service will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, operating on Saturdays only from 9th April until 29th October inclusive. The timetable will be the same as that which operated last year.

X35 Barrow – Ulverston – Grange – Kendal
At the request of Cumbria County Council, a couple of journeys in each direction will be diverted to serve Greenodd village, instead of High Newton. Otherwise the service remains unchanged.

X58 Maryport – Cockermouth – Castle Inn Hotel – Keswick
This service will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, operating in the Easter, May and Summer school holidays. The route will be revised between Embleton and Keswick to operate via Castle Inn, Bassenthwaite (main road) and Mirehouse / Dodd Wood, partially replacing service X4.

from Stagecoach website

They make the first 554 even later then it already is? No wonder it is a very under used service. Wish they would put some time and effort into this service and improve it. If you want to get into Keswick before 11am you have to travel via Penrith on the 104... Also, would have been nice for them to have a later one out of Keswick. Obvously not going to bother again this year.
 
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796 now 52626 got Penrith Castle.
797 now 52627 got Workington Hall.
798 now 52628 got River Derwent.
799 now 52629 got Bassenthwaite Lake.

200 posts in a short space of time!!
 

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Expect to see 18372 up at Carlisle soon - it's going to need some rather major work to the upper front N/S after hitting a tree at 50mph...
 

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15685 on 300 with a hole in the front n/s corner next to the headlights.
22600 on short 300's. Replaced on 1602 to Whitehaven by 47023.
16870, 34616, 35246 and 35249 on 30 and 31.
47007 on Moorclose 50.
47006 replaced 16733 on Moorclose 51.
34218, 47061 and 47062 on Harrington & Seaton.
14234 on 48's.
16331, 16649 and 16734 flying around not in service.
16124 staff shuttle before schools.

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15685 on 300 with a hole in the front n/s corner next to the headlights.
22600 on short 300's. Replaced on 1602 to Whitehaven by 47023.
16870, 34616, 35246 and 35249 on 30 and 31.
47007 on Moorclose 50.
47006 replaced 16733 on Moorclose 51.
34218, 47061 and 47062 on Harrington & Seaton.
14234 on 48's.
16331, 16649 and 16734 flying around not in service.
16124 staff shuttle before schools.

5512660862_7b514cab0b_z.jpg
Looks like its scratched along something and its torn through
 

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20436 been on Sellafield.
16184 (I think) on 30/31.
16649 and 22600 on annexe.

I got a bit cheesed off with Richard Burgess before who was driving 46 and 47 today, I was running to catch the bus it was 34218, Then he suddenly decided to drive off.
 

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I got a bit cheesed off with Richard Burgess before who was driving 46 and 47 today, I was running to catch the bus it was 34218, Then he suddenly decided to drive off.

Perhaps it was time for him to leave the stop? You can't keep waiting for everyone, you'd never get anywhere!

I'm sure that member Lilly Hall will have something to say about this...
 

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Perhaps it was time for him to leave the stop? You can't keep waiting for everyone, you'd never get anywhere!

I'm sure that member Lilly Hall will have something to say about this...

Yeah, but I was walking past the driver's rest room, plus I had a return ticket so he would of just stamped it.

Bus Drivers these days...
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Whats going to happen with 14257 and 14258 are they gonna go into Preservation or Scrap?
 

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Well, there's a least 1 member here (me) who has no sympathy with you Andrew...learn not to leave the bus till the last minute!

The Leylands will be sold - there's no particular reason to preserve them - and may even see further service like 14210 has.
 

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Well Richie must learn not to leave passengers to the last minute lol!

Bus due out at 17:10.
Left at 17:08 How dare he!

I'll have to get the camera back out on Saturday I haven't took any since Moday 21 February.
 
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14245 is still in service....though I do believe a preservation deal has provisionall been agreed.
 

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14257 and 14258 will probaly go into reserve.
Do you know where 14255 is now? it got withdrawn in July 2010.

If 14257/58 have offically been withdrawn then why the hell would they go on reserve lol.

14255 is listed as disposal at LL.

Not much to report today everything running as normal from what I saw.
 

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They make the first 554 even later then it already is? No wonder it is a very under used service. Wish they would put some time and effort into this service and improve it. If you want to get into Keswick before 11am you have to travel via Penrith on the 104... Also, would have been nice for them to have a later one out of Keswick. Obvously not going to bother again this year.

You can travel on the new 74 service at 08.50 daily via caldbeck and arrive at Keswick at 10.15.
 

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Yes, 16870, 16441, 16330 and 16351 (16353 was going to but is probaly getting scrapped) are all replacing 14257, 14258 (already gone) and 14234.

14257 has been down on the fleetcard as reserve since September 2010. The 5 Volvo Oly's from Carlisle were down, as far as I'm aware, to replace 14234, 14258 (now gone), 16714 (in mid-refurb), 16733 (fully refurbed), and 16734 (awaiting refurb).


...any news on 16447 It hasn't bee out for a while.

May have been in Whitehaven on 22 or 31A? Or generally just dead. Heard a rumour that its gearbox isn't playing nicely, not sure how true the rumour is, as it was seen working a full 300 after I heard it :lol:


Yeah, but I was walking past the driver's rest room, plus I had a return ticket so he would of just stamped it.

Bus Drivers these days...

It doesn't matter where you are, or what ticket you have. If it is after the departure time, the driver doesn't really have to stop. Most of them do if they see you clearly signal that you were wanting to get on the bus. Your best bet for that is wear something bright to make you stand out, then jump up and down waving your arms at the driver. Some drivers would still just laugh at you and drive off, but most, Richie included, would most likely stop if he saw your clear signal.
 

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Not much to report today everything running as normal from what I saw.

So you missed the traffic mayhem this morning then ?, caused by two lorries parked in King Street, which resulted in most buses (including me) in Lancaster, running over 30-mins late!

I passed a number of the Ripley School buses in South Road at about 9.05/09.10 enroute to the school.

Two B10M's on town services, 22805 & 22827 on 2/2A's, 16664 & UID Trident on short 3's.
 

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So you missed the traffic mayhem this morning then ?, caused by two lorries parked in King Street, which resulted in most buses (including me) in Lancaster, running over 30-mins late!

I passed a number of the Ripley School buses in South Road at about 9.05/09.10 enroute to the school.

Two B10M's on town services, 22805 & 22827 on 2/2A's, 16664 & UID Trident on short 3's.

Funny, wasn't bad when the 556 came in - we were right behind you KK :P

Morecambe made a boo-boo with the allocations today then; 22721 ventured out on the 0720 55 to Kendal (not booked low floor)
 

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May have been in Whitehaven on 22 or 31A? Or generally just dead. Heard a rumour that its gearbox isn't playing nicely, not sure how true the rumour is, as it was seen working a full 300 after I heard it :lol:


No problems with it when it was a Carlisle Bus
 

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Well Richie must learn not to leave passengers to the last minute lol!

Well you should learn to get there a couple of minutes before the departure time! I would suggest around 5 minutes. Richie is a nice chap, so give it a rest!
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I suggest you walk faster, or, better still, set your watch to the time of the Wayfarer.

Or..... not having the option of missing the bus.. and walk!!!
 

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No bus I drive leaves a stop before time.
If you've got a complaint about the way I do my job you need to complain to the office at Workington bus station, not slag me off on here.
Better still perhaps you'd like to speak to me in person rather than diss me from your computer chair.
The CCTV will back up the fact that the bus left on time. If you want to catch it, get there on time. It's not a taxi.
All would-be passengers who miss a bus are the same; it's everyone's fault but their own.
I suggest you walk faster, or, better still, set your watch to the time of the Wayfarer.
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Funny, wasn't bad when the 556 came in - we were right behind you KK :P

I was on-time upto 08.17 when i departed the bus stn, I didn't arrive at the market until 08.38, i was due there at 08.20. I finally got back into bus stn 09.24, i was due out at 09.02 to St. Chads, which got missed. i went stright out on the 09.27 South Circular.

Surprized that you didn't noticed the traffic, when you were walking up Gt. John Street.

Morecambe made a boo-boo with the allocations today then; 22721 ventured out on the 0720 55 to Kendal (not booked low floor)

Don't think so, i think it was a case of using what ever bus was available!, the duty inspector was trying to keep everthing running!!!
 
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No bus I drive leaves a stop before time.
If you've got a complaint regarding the way I do my job you need to complain to the office at Workington bus station, not slag me off on here.
Better still perhaps you'd like to speak to me in person rather than diss me from your computer chair.
The CCTV will back up the fact that the bus left on time. If you want to catch it, get there on time. It's not a taxi.
All would-be passengers who miss a bus are the same; it's everyone's fault but their own.
I suggest you walk faster, or, better still, set your watch to the time of the Wayfarer.

I don't have any complaints I was just trying to say that he left early (I thought) but my clock would of been wrong. I'm sorry
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May have been in Whitehaven on 22 or 31A? Or generally just dead. Heard a rumour that its gearbox isn't playing nicely, not sure how true the rumour is, as it was seen working a full 300 after I heard it :lol:


No problems with it when it was a Carlisle Bus

I hadn't seen for around a week now.
 

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You can travel on the new 74 service at 08.50 daily via caldbeck and arrive at Keswick at 10.15.

Thanks, missed that. Depends if I want to catch a Mini pointer all the way to Keswick! Suppose I will give it a go for the novelty value.
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Bit late now but Carlisle had 47722 out on the 685 yesterday morning. I passed it when I was on 52629 on the first 685. Around 20.00 hrs it was on the 75. Not sure if it supposed to do a 75 every night? 20908 was out on the 65 which is normally low floor too.
 
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