Stagecoach North West Discussion

[stagecoachuk]

14257 withdrawn

14258 and 14234 cannot be far behind now...

34048 went missed from Carlisle today, not in Carlisle or on the Annan town service so probably at Penrith.

 

[Lilly Hall]

The East Lancs Spryte has also gone from Carlisle this morning.

...and guess where it is now?

http://gallerynorth.fotopic.net/p69325126.html

http://gallerynorth.fotopic.net/p69325127.html

 

[jonesy3001]

Finally got Kirkby Lonsdale's solo on the 42
http://darryl-p-jones.fotopic.net/p69325445.html

 

[KendalKing]

Finally got Kirkby Lonsdale's solo on the 42
http://darryl-p-jones.fotopic.net/p69325445.html

Ex KLCH Solo 47247 is looking tatty, compared to the other two, which have recently been re-painted.

 

[jonesy3001]

When they turned up at morecambe 47247 and 47249 got repainted at carlisle and 47248 was in house painted at morecambe,47247 and 47248 have both had recent repaints in the past year, just 47249 to do if they do it.

 

[cainebj]

15686's rear, with repaired rear n/s corner.

 

[Cumberland Lad]

........

 

[Dallamlad]

16103 in service in Preston:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/psbusdriver/5458169422/

 

[TRN481V]

Hello all,

Does anybody know (ALX400 maybe?) what the changes to the 125/6 and X61 mentioned earlier in this thread and due to come in on 29 April are please?

I work at Chorley depot but am currently off sick so I'm a bit out of the loop!

Also, can ALX400 be a little more specific about the proposed fleet movements, or would he have to kill me if he told me?

Cheers.

 

[cainebj]

Does anybody know (ALX400 maybe?) what the changes to the 125/6 and X61 mentioned earlier in this thread and due to come in on 29 April are please?

The X61 is being split into X60 and X61, to avoid a driver change at Chorley all of the time. Just means a driver can do a full Chorley - Manchester - Blackpool - Chorley, without a tacho. Apparently a driver change every time at Chorley is taking up a little too much time, forcing it to run late

 

[Dallamlad]

Hello all,

Does anybody know (ALX400 maybe?) what the changes to the 125/6 and X61 mentioned earlier in this thread and due to come in on 29 April are please?

I work at Chorley depot but am currently off sick so I'm a bit out of the loop!

Also, can ALX400 be a little more specific about the proposed fleet movements, or would he have to kill me if he told me?

Cheers.

Welcome to the forum!

 

[TRN481V]

Welcome to the forum!

Thank you
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---

The X61 is being split into X60 and X61, to avoid a driver change at Chorley all of the time. Just means a driver can do a full Chorley - Manchester - Blackpool - Chorley, without a tacho. Apparently a driver change every time at Chorley is taking up a little too much time, forcing it to run late

Oh, great! It was quite nice just having a Manchester as your second half! Now it's another excuse for the schedulers to give us a 5 hour first half, a minimum break, then a 5 hour second half! And I really don't fancy 5 hours behind the wheel of 16653...

 

[rosswatson]

Oh, great! It was quite nice just having a Manchester as your second half! Now it's another excuse for the schedulers to give us a 5 hour first half, a minimum break, then a 5 hour second half! And I really don't fancy 5 hours behind the wheel of 16653...

16653.... Oh how it's not missed Guessing it still needs a bomb up its arse? :roll:

Also, welcome to the forum!

15473 arrived in Carlisle early this afternoon for paint;

(My shot!)

 

[TRN481V]

16653.... Oh how it's not missed Guessing it still needs a bomb up its arse? :roll:

Also, welcome to the forum!

Thank you!

I've been off for nearly five weeks now so I'm not sure if our fitters have fettled it yet, but it was an utter shed - wouldn't go above 45mph on the M61! I point blank refused to take it one day. Also rather confusingly, it's got a B10 steering wheel fitted.

 

[Dallamlad]

16653.... Oh how it's not missed Guessing it still needs a bomb up its arse? :roll:

Also, welcome to the forum!

15473 arrived in Carlisle early this afternoon for paint;

(My shot!)

Nice shot, for those who haven't see them before those are the seats that KL's Scans are meant to be having, shown quite clearly in this shot

Thank you!

I've been off for nearly five weeks now so I'm not sure if our fitters have fettled it yet, but it was an utter shed - wouldn't go above 45mph on the M61! I point blank refused to take it one day. Also rather confusingly, it's got a B10 steering wheel fitted.

Bit of a mash up of crap then 16653 lol. I hope you get well soon!

 

[rosswatson]

Also rather confusingly, it's got a B10 steering wheel fitted.

Shame it doesn't go like a B10 :roll:

 

[Stagecoach NW]

Rotala orders hybrids

Rotala has ordered 15 Versa hybrids as part of a 20-vehicle £3.6million order placed with Optare. The hybrids are supported by £1.7million from the government’s Green Bus Fund. The other five vehicles are three Solo SRs and two Versas, all with diesel engines.

All of the new buses are to the same high specification as four Solo SRs delivered last year for Signature-branded services in Solihull. They will have Esteban leather seats, blue LED underseat lighting, an ACIS real-time information system, and wi-fi connectivity. ?

Simon Dunn, chief executive officer of Rotala, says: “The luxurious specification is aimed at making bus travel more attractive to the public by creating a pleasant and comfortable environment in which to travel. Other features like wi-fi connectivity further improve the customer experience. Additionally the usage of hybrid power provides both an environmentally friendly option and also reduces fuel consumption.”

These Might be From Preston Bus but i don't know

 

[Dallamlad]

Rotala orders hybrids

Rotala has ordered 15 Versa hybrids as part of a 20-vehicle £3.6million order placed with Optare. The hybrids are supported by £1.7million from the government’s Green Bus Fund. The other five vehicles are three Solo SRs and two Versas, all with diesel engines.

All of the new buses are to the same high specification as four Solo SRs delivered last year for Signature-branded services in Solihull. They will have Esteban leather seats, blue LED underseat lighting, an ACIS real-time information system, and wi-fi connectivity. ?

Simon Dunn, chief executive officer of Rotala, says: “The luxurious specification is aimed at making bus travel more attractive to the public by creating a pleasant and comfortable environment in which to travel. Other features like wi-fi connectivity further improve the customer experience. Additionally the usage of hybrid power provides both an environmentally friendly option and also reduces fuel consumption.”

These Might be From Preston Bus but i don't know

If some do end up with PB it seems Rotala are bringing the fight to Stagecoach!

However saying that PBs single decker fleet looks OK. It's the older deckers that could do with replacing if they replace anything at all any time soon.

 

[Lilly Hall]

The jaws of the Death Lanes snag another victim;

http://gallerynorth.fotopic.net/p69349033.html

Oooh, smell that paint;

http://gallerynorth.fotopic.net/p69349035.html

 

[Dallamlad]

Do we know what's happening to these bloody N reg's yet lol?

 

[07andrew]

47059 has been on Harrington and Seaton today.

 

[cainebj]

Cumbria area service changes – 11th April 2011

Stagecoach is making a number of changes to services from the above date, particularly affecting services throughout the Lake District, as we introduce our 2011 season timetables. In addition, a number of longer-distance routes throughout the County will have some service number changes. Full details are given below (in service number order).

30, 31 Maryport – Workington – Whitehaven – Thornhill or Frizington
A revised Monday to Saturday timetable will be in operation, with many journey times changing. The frequency of buses and overall level of service will remain the same.

38 Carlisle – Silloth
We are pleased to announce our new summer Sunday service for 2011, providing three return trips per day between Carlisle and Silloth. This service commences on Sunday 10th April and runs until Sunday 30th October.

66 Carlisle – Blackwell – Durdar – Stoneraise School
There will be some minor timetable changes, following customer suggestions. The journeys which currently operate on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays only, will now operate throughout the week, but check the new timetable carefully, as some journey times will change.

73, 73A, 74 Calbeck Rambler (Carlisle – Caldbeck – Keswick)
The timetable will be revised, with buses between Carlisle and Caldbeck operating as service 74, then changing at Caldbeck to become service 73/73A. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus, as the buses will simply change their number in Caldbeck.
In addition, we will be operating a new daily return journey from Carlisle to Keswick, which will provide extra opportunities for customers wishing to travel direct, but for whom the 554 times are not suitable.

77, 77A Honister Rambler services
These services will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

78 Keswick – Seatoller
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

86 Keswick – Portinscale
The return journeys leaving Keswick at 1011 and 1311 hours will be withdrawn. Customers should alternatively use services 77 and 77A instead.

106 Penrith – Shap – Kendal
The Stagecoach journeys on this service will show the number 107 between Penrith and Shap. At Shap, the bus will then change number to 106 before continuing to Kendal. There will be no changes to the timetable and journeys provided by Apollo 8 travel will remain unaffected throughout.

108 Penrith – Patterdale Hotel
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, with minor changes to the Sunday times.

300, 301 Carlisle – Wigton – Aspatria – Maryport – Workington – Whitehaven
These services will be revised to become:
300 Carlisle – Wigton – Aspatria – Maryport
with guaranteed connections at Maryport for
301, 302 Maryport – Workington – Lillyhall (302) / Harrington (301) – Whitehaven
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate these bus services, route 300/301 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Maryport and then Maryport to Whitehaven. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Maryport, as the buses will simply change their number at Curzon Street.

As a result of the above, there will be some minor timetable changes, but the overall level of service will remain the same. Between Workington and Whitehaven, buses on what will be service 302 will now have an even 30 minute frequency throughout the day.

505 Windermere – Coniston
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

516 Ambleside – Dungeon Ghyll
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

517 Bowness – Glenridding
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

530, 531 Kendal – Grange – Cartmel / Cark / Flookburgh
In connection with additional school journeys that Stagecoach are now providing to Priory School (Cartmel), additional shoppers journeys have been introduced from the Grange peninsula area to/from Kendal. Please refer to the new timetable for details.

552 Kendal – Arnside
From 30th April 2011, Cumbria County Council is ceasing subsidy, which currently provides for a number of journeys to divert via Levens Village. As a result, this service will no longer serve Levens Village after 30th April, but there will be no other changes to the timetable.

554 Carlisle – Wigton – Keswick
This service will be revised to become:
553 Carlisle – Wigton
with guaranteed connections at Wigton for
554 Wigton – Keswick
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route 554 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Wigton and then Wigton to Keswick. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Wigton, as the buses will simply change their number at King Street.
For the 2011 season, we are making some changes to the timetable. The first journey will be delayed from Carlisle to allow concessionary travellers to use their passes. At the same time, we have also tried to improve connections with the 685 service, following customer requests.

555, 556, X55 Lancaster – Kendal – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere – Keswick
A revised timetable will be in operation for the summer 2011 season, to try and improve reliability. In addition, following customer requests, several Monday to Saturday late evening journeys will divert to serve Bowness on Windermere, operating as far as Bowness Pier.

567 Kendal – Kirkby Lonsdale
Minor timetable changes will be introduced.

599 Bowness – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere (Open Top route)
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

600 Carlisle – Wigton – Cockermouth – Whitehaven
This service will be revised to become:
600 Carlisle – Wigton – Cockermouth
with guaranteed connections at Cockermouth for
601 Cockermouth – Lakes College – Whitehaven
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route 600 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Cockermouth and then Cockermouth to Whitehaven. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Cockermouth, as the buses will simply change their number at Main Street.

As a result of the above, there will be some minor timetable changes, but the overall level of service will remain the same. There will be morning peak time changes between Cockermouth and Lakes College.

685 Carlisle – Brampton – Haltwhistle – Hexham – Newcastle
The Stagecoach Sunday journeys between Carlisle and Hexham will be revised. In addition, on Sundays only, buses will display 85 as the service number between Haltwhistle and Hexham, instead of 685.

X4, X5 Workington – Cockermouth – Keswick – Penrith
These services will be revised to become:
X5 Workington – Cockermouth – Embleton – Thornthwaite – Braithwaite – Keswick
with guaranteed connections at Keswick for
X50 Keswick – Threlkeld – Penruddock – Stainton – Penrith
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route X4/X5 will be split into two sections, operating Workington to Keswick and then Keswick to Penrith. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Keswick, as the buses will simply change their number at the bus station.

At the same time, we will be revising the route and timetable to allow all buses to operate the X5 route between Workington and Keswick. As a result, the X4 route variation will no longer operate and customers for the east side of Bassenthwaite Lake should use services 73, 554 and X58 instead.
We are taking the opportunity to try and improve train connection opportunities at Penrith and there will be an improved early morning and late evening service for Stainton, following customer requests. Most buses will also operate via Stainton on Sundays too.

X8 Chorley – Preston – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere – Keswick
This service will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, operating on Saturdays only from 9th April until 29th October inclusive. The timetable will be the same as that which operated last year.

X35 Barrow – Ulverston – Grange – Kendal
At the request of Cumbria County Council, a couple of journeys in each direction will be diverted to serve Greenodd village, instead of High Newton. Otherwise the service remains unchanged.

X58 Maryport – Cockermouth – Castle Inn Hotel – Keswick
This service will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, operating in the Easter, May and Summer school holidays. The route will be revised between Embleton and Keswick to operate via Castle Inn, Bassenthwaite (main road) and Mirehouse / Dodd Wood, partially replacing service X4.

from Stagecoach website

 

[Chris26584]

Nice shot, for those who haven't see them before those are the seats that KL's Scans are meant to be having, shown quite clearly in this shot



Bit of a mash up of crap then 16653 lol. I hope you get well soon!

Odd... painting Scania's which are only just and I mean just 2 years old...unless its had accident damage and yet only 19031,2,/40 have been painted out of the enviros, of which the others have never received a full repaint since new in 2007.
47249 looks to have had its rear red and blue area painted and vanished recently, very shiny. Rest of the paintwork looks a little tatty, which suggests patch up from accident damage to the rear.

 

[KendalKing]

Optare Solo 47730 (PX10DZJ) got towed in this afternoon, after it spent a little over two hours sat down in the middle Cable Street.

I have never known a depot to have as many breakdowns as Morecambe depot appear to be having!
It's really is about time at Morecambe depot got some new or more reliable buses.

Oh i am sorry, this is one of Morecambe's newest buses.

 

[07andrew]

Cumbria area service changes – 11th April 2011

Stagecoach is making a number of changes to services from the above date, particularly affecting services throughout the Lake District, as we introduce our 2011 season timetables. In addition, a number of longer-distance routes throughout the County will have some service number changes. Full details are given below (in service number order).

30, 31 Maryport – Workington – Whitehaven – Thornhill or Frizington
A revised Monday to Saturday timetable will be in operation, with many journey times changing. The frequency of buses and overall level of service will remain the same.

38 Carlisle – Silloth
We are pleased to announce our new summer Sunday service for 2011, providing three return trips per day between Carlisle and Silloth. This service commences on Sunday 10th April and runs until Sunday 30th October.

66 Carlisle – Blackwell – Durdar – Stoneraise School
There will be some minor timetable changes, following customer suggestions. The journeys which currently operate on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays only, will now operate throughout the week, but check the new timetable carefully, as some journey times will change.

73, 73A, 74 Calbeck Rambler (Carlisle – Caldbeck – Keswick)
The timetable will be revised, with buses between Carlisle and Caldbeck operating as service 74, then changing at Caldbeck to become service 73/73A. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus, as the buses will simply change their number in Caldbeck.
In addition, we will be operating a new daily return journey from Carlisle to Keswick, which will provide extra opportunities for customers wishing to travel direct, but for whom the 554 times are not suitable.

77, 77A Honister Rambler services
These services will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

78 Keswick – Seatoller
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

86 Keswick – Portinscale
The return journeys leaving Keswick at 1011 and 1311 hours will be withdrawn. Customers should alternatively use services 77 and 77A instead.

106 Penrith – Shap – Kendal
The Stagecoach journeys on this service will show the number 107 between Penrith and Shap. At Shap, the bus will then change number to 106 before continuing to Kendal. There will be no changes to the timetable and journeys provided by Apollo 8 travel will remain unaffected throughout.

108 Penrith – Patterdale Hotel
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, with minor changes to the Sunday times.

300, 301 Carlisle – Wigton – Aspatria – Maryport – Workington – Whitehaven
These services will be revised to become:
300 Carlisle – Wigton – Aspatria – Maryport
with guaranteed connections at Maryport for
301, 302 Maryport – Workington – Lillyhall (302) / Harrington (301) – Whitehaven
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate these bus services, route 300/301 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Maryport and then Maryport to Whitehaven. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Maryport, as the buses will simply change their number at Curzon Street.

As a result of the above, there will be some minor timetable changes, but the overall level of service will remain the same. Between Workington and Whitehaven, buses on what will be service 302 will now have an even 30 minute frequency throughout the day.

505 Windermere – Coniston
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

516 Ambleside – Dungeon Ghyll
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

517 Bowness – Glenridding
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be the same as that operated last year.

530, 531 Kendal – Grange – Cartmel / Cark / Flookburgh
In connection with additional school journeys that Stagecoach are now providing to Priory School (Cartmel), additional shoppers journeys have been introduced from the Grange peninsula area to/from Kendal. Please refer to the new timetable for details.

552 Kendal – Arnside
From 30th April 2011, Cumbria County Council is ceasing subsidy, which currently provides for a number of journeys to divert via Levens Village. As a result, this service will no longer serve Levens Village after 30th April, but there will be no other changes to the timetable.

554 Carlisle – Wigton – Keswick
This service will be revised to become:
553 Carlisle – Wigton
with guaranteed connections at Wigton for
554 Wigton – Keswick
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route 554 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Wigton and then Wigton to Keswick. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Wigton, as the buses will simply change their number at King Street.
For the 2011 season, we are making some changes to the timetable. The first journey will be delayed from Carlisle to allow concessionary travellers to use their passes. At the same time, we have also tried to improve connections with the 685 service, following customer requests.

555, 556, X55 Lancaster – Kendal – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere – Keswick
A revised timetable will be in operation for the summer 2011 season, to try and improve reliability. In addition, following customer requests, several Monday to Saturday late evening journeys will divert to serve Bowness on Windermere, operating as far as Bowness Pier.

567 Kendal – Kirkby Lonsdale
Minor timetable changes will be introduced.

599 Bowness – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere (Open Top route)
The summer timetable will be reintroduced for the 2011 season. The timetable will be largely the same as last year, with only minor changes.

600 Carlisle – Wigton – Cockermouth – Whitehaven
This service will be revised to become:
600 Carlisle – Wigton – Cockermouth
with guaranteed connections at Cockermouth for
601 Cockermouth – Lakes College – Whitehaven
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route 600 will be split into two sections, operating Carlisle to Cockermouth and then Cockermouth to Whitehaven. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Cockermouth, as the buses will simply change their number at Main Street.

As a result of the above, there will be some minor timetable changes, but the overall level of service will remain the same. There will be morning peak time changes between Cockermouth and Lakes College.

685 Carlisle – Brampton – Haltwhistle – Hexham – Newcastle
The Stagecoach Sunday journeys between Carlisle and Hexham will be revised. In addition, on Sundays only, buses will display 85 as the service number between Haltwhistle and Hexham, instead of 685.

X4, X5 Workington – Cockermouth – Keswick – Penrith
These services will be revised to become:
X5 Workington – Cockermouth – Embleton – Thornthwaite – Braithwaite – Keswick
with guaranteed connections at Keswick for
X50 Keswick – Threlkeld – Penruddock – Stainton – Penrith
In order to ensure that we can continue to effectively operate this bus service, route X4/X5 will be split into two sections, operating Workington to Keswick and then Keswick to Penrith. Customers should note that they will still be able to purchase through-tickets and will not even have to change bus in Keswick, as the buses will simply change their number at the bus station.

At the same time, we will be revising the route and timetable to allow all buses to operate the X5 route between Workington and Keswick. As a result, the X4 route variation will no longer operate and customers for the east side of Bassenthwaite Lake should use services 73, 554 and X58 instead.
We are taking the opportunity to try and improve train connection opportunities at Penrith and there will be an improved early morning and late evening service for Stainton, following customer requests. Most buses will also operate via Stainton on Sundays too.

X8 Chorley – Preston – Windermere – Ambleside – Grasmere – Keswick
This service will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, operating on Saturdays only from 9th April until 29th October inclusive. The timetable will be the same as that which operated last year.

X35 Barrow – Ulverston – Grange – Kendal
At the request of Cumbria County Council, a couple of journeys in each direction will be diverted to serve Greenodd village, instead of High Newton. Otherwise the service remains unchanged.

X58 Maryport – Cockermouth – Castle Inn Hotel – Keswick
This service will be reintroduced for the 2011 season, operating in the Easter, May and Summer school holidays. The route will be revised between Embleton and Keswick to operate via Castle Inn, Bassenthwaite (main road) and Mirehouse / Dodd Wood, partially replacing service X4.

from Stagecoach website

That will be a good birthday present for me then lol!
Service changes on my birthday.
--- old post above --- --- new post below ---
So whats the TransCumbria branding gonna be like on the 4 Profiles then?
This is what I want:
Either Stagecoach Corporate livery
Or Change the Branding. Because we've had that TransCumbria branding for 5 years now we had it when the joncks were here.

 

[cainebj]

So whats the TransCumbria branding gonna be like on the 4 Profiles then?
This is what I want:
Either Stagecoach Corporate livery
Or Change the Branding. Because we've had that TransCumbria branding for 5 years now we had it when the joncks were here.

Most likely remove the X4 stickers, and put X50 stickers on.

 

[andy 37]

16653.... Oh how it's not missed Guessing it still needs a bomb up its arse? :roll:

Also, welcome to the forum!

15473 arrived in Carlisle early this afternoon for paint;

(My shot!)

nice shot ross

 

[07andrew]

16653.... Oh how it's not missed Guessing it still needs a bomb up its arse? :roll:

Also, welcome to the forum!

15473 arrived in Carlisle early this afternoon for paint;

(My shot!)

I wish I could be as good as you at taking pics like that lol I'm nearly on 200 posts already I only joined on November 20.

 

[Mattdw92]

So whats the TransCumbria branding gonna be like on the 4 Profiles then?
This is what I want:
Either Stagecoach Corporate livery
Or Change the Branding. Because we've had that TransCumbria branding for 5 years now we had it when the joncks were here.

Nothing wrong with the TransCumbria, pretty smart.
The Cumbrian Connection was a good livery too, possibly leaning towards it as the better livery!

What was it..... Workington Hall, River Derwent, Bassenthwaite Lake and Penrith Castle - Can't remember which Jonck's were called which though! ...good times!

 

[07andrew]

They could put the Cumbrian Connexion livery on the Profiles they would suit it.