Another fantastic day with Avanti

[voyagerdude220]

A Cross Country train is stranded at Norton Bridge which could affect things.

What happened?

 

[Halish Railway]

Updates:

14:49 HHD to EUS Cancelled due to shortage of train crew
15:02 EUS to HHD Cancelled due to shortage of train crew

Of the promised 5 direct trains only one or two two might run. The 17:02 Euston to Holyhead is still scheduled, but has three stops before Crewe.


15:32 Chester to Euston started from Crewe.

Transport for Wales (TfW) are not having the best day either. There is a signal boxed closed due to shortage of staff closing the Borderlands line. Several cancellations because "More than usual number of trains require repairs."

My (TfW) ride home will be delayed by six minutes. TfW cancled the original service and replaced it with an additional STP (Short Term Plan) Shrewsbury to Holyhead. It just left Prestatyn "on time"

The aforementioned Voyager-worked 14:30 Euston to Glasgow Central has also been capped at Preston.

 

[londonmidland]

Who thought implementing a new timetable would be a good idea with the current staffing and train crew issues?

Several trains at Euston showing up as delayed. This is now a daily occurrence.

 

[Bletchleyite]

Nowt wrong with a new timetable. Plenty wrong with one they can't run, which was entirely predictable.

 

[footprints]

Who thought implementing a new timetable would be a good idea with the current staffing and train crew issues?

Several trains at Euston showing up as delayed. This is now a daily occurrence.

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There's a fire next to the track between Watford Junction and Willesden Junction that's causing the delays this evening.

 

[londonmidland]

There's a fire next to the track between Watford Junction and Willesden Junction that's causing the delays this evening.

I was under the impression this was only affecting London Overground services?

Nothing on NRE or social media platforms stating it is affecting AWC or LNR services.

 

[Jimini]

If RTT is correct, then the delayed 1616 from Euston to Edinburgh is a) 91 mins late, and b) a five car Voyager. That’ll be cosy if so! Looks like it’s going to head up the Trent valley and swerve Brum so that’ll free a bit of space up, but still..

 

[Huntergreed]

If RTT is correct, then the delayed 1616 from Euston to Edinburgh is a) 91 mins late, and b) a five car Voyager. That’ll be cosy if so! Looks like it’s going to head up the Trent valley and swerve Brum so that’ll free a bit of space up, but still..

Wasn’t last week to be the last ever week of Voyager operation north of Preston? Clearly not happened!

 

[Lewisham2221]

I was under the impression this was only affecting London Overground services?

Nothing on NRE or social media platforms stating it is affecting AWC or LNR services.

Viewing the live departure board for SOT on the NRE website, thr following is shown above the departures:

The lifts are out of order between platform 1 and 2 and exit at Stoke-On-Trent station.
Disruption between Watford Junction and Willesden Junction due to a fire next to the track.

 

[peter166]

I don't know where we got the idea that the traincrew situation was suddenly going to change overnight! This company really is taking the proverbial aren't they?

It was of course Avanti in various press briefings who stated that the full new timetable was deliverable because it was fully rostered. Days 1 & 2 seem to suggest otherwise. Avanti management need to be brought to account for their false promises made to the likes of the DfT, the mayors of Liverpool & Manchester & the travelling public.

 

[footprints]

I was under the impression this was only affecting London Overground services?

Nothing on NRE or social media platforms stating it is affecting AWC or LNR services.

You're right! Looks like it's just Avanti being peak Avanti as usual then.

 

[voyagerdude220]

Wasn’t last week to be the last ever week of Voyager operation north of Preston? Clearly not happened!

No- 16:53 Preston to Glasgow Central and 20:06 Glasgow Central to Crewe still booked 2x221.

I believe Polmadie will no longer have any 221s stabling overnight though.

 

[Peter0124]

No- 16:53 Preston to Glasgow Central and 20:06 Glasgow Central to Crewe still booked 2x221.

I believe Polmadie will no longer have any 221s stabling overnight though.

I assume these will be worked by Preston crews then up to GLC?

 

[Huntergreed]

20:06 Glasgow Central to Crewe still booked 2x221.

Is this every day? Was a 390 every day until last week!

 

[voyagerdude220]

Is this every day? Was a 390 every day until last week!

I think it's Sunday to Friday (Strikes permitting of course!)

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I assume these will be worked by Preston crews then up to GLC?

I don't know.

 

[Jimini]

Wasn’t last week to be the last ever week of Voyager operation north of Preston? Clearly not happened!

Terminated short at Crewe at 1949 (+42), despite making some time up by diverting up the TV lines.

 

[londonmidland]

Today's PPM for Avanti West Coast. Shocking sums it up I think.

 

[Kite159]

Going back to 3tph Manchester was nuts. If they thought they had enough drivers, 2 would have made more sense for now, even if they were just 2 of the 3 with a long and a short gap.

Agreed, 2tph with 1 going via Crewe the other via Stoke with the stops at Nuneaton/Rugby/Milton Keynes etc split between them

 

[Jamesrob637]

What happened?

Realtime Trains | 1H17 0726 Birmingham New Street to Manchester Piccadilly | 12/12/2022

Real-time train running information for 1H17 0726 departure from Birmingham New Street to Manchester Piccadilly on 12/12/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

It's apparently still stuck near Norton Bridge!

 

[D6130]

It's apparently still stuck near Norton Bridge!

Nothing currently shown on Traksy as being stuck in the Norton Bridge area.

 

[Jamesrob637]

Nothing currently shown on Traksy as being stuck in the Norton Bridge area.

The Curious Case Of the Vanishing Voyager?!

The Ghost of Cross Country Past, Présent and Future?!

 

[gazzaa2]

Going back to 3tph Manchester was nuts. If they thought they had enough drivers, 2 would have made more sense for now, even if they were just 2 of the 3 with a long and a short gap.

It's just designed to keep Andy Burnham quiet, regardless of whether they can actually run the services.

 

[LOL The Irony]

It's just designed to keep Andy Burnham quiet, regardless of whether they can actually run the services.

Wasn't very well planned then, because he'll still moan.

 

[North-Valiant]

Seems like Stoke has gotten loads more trains to Manchester from this new timetable (not that they will run)

 

[Pumbaa]

The Curious Case Of the Vanishing Voyager?!

The Ghost of Cross Country Past, Présent and Future?!

Diverted and terminated at Macclesfield for return working.

 

[LOL The Irony]

Seems like Stoke has gotten loads more trains to Manchester from this new timetable (not that they will run)

It got its 2nd tph back and it isn't really a new timetable, just the old one has come back with a few improvements.

 

[North-Valiant]

It got its 2nd tph back and it isn't really a new timetable, just the old one has come back with a few improvements.

Sure but seems like we've gone from 3tph in total (1x northern, 1 x XC and 1x AWC) to 5 tph (1x Northern, 2 x XC and 2 x AWC) so big improvement really

 

[Jamesrob637]

Diverted and terminated at Macclesfield for return working.

So why doesn't Real Time Trains say "Terminated at Macclesfield?" then?

 

[D6130]

So why doesn't Real Time Trains say "Terminated at Macclesfield?" then?

Possibly because they may not have received data updates from Network Rail?

 

[BurtonM]

Wasn't very well planned then, because he'll still moan.

Burnham wants Avanti out and replaced by the OLR unless they improve by Feb, he's got a constant eye on them. Nothing will 'shut him up', he's extremely vocal.