Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
I disagree. I think they're much more comfortable and less claustrophobic with more legroom in standard and much fresher and more efficient air conditioning.
Each to their own though!
I've not used one yet, but I'm astonished to see someone claiming a 222 with its single-piece seating to be less claustrophobic!

Problem is theres nothing out there that beats a mk3, and there doesnt seem to be anything on the horizon that will. The next IEPs will come out to replace the voyagers soon, with smaller windows, airline seats, poor seat cushioning etc etc. Its so blaringly obvious that we need to go back to traditional values to improve the travelling experience.
IETs are a far, far better travelling experience than any 22x in my view. Yes, even with the lousy seats, but the Avanti ones will have the same seats as the Pendolino refurb. I'm not sure how a Mk3 is better than an IET as built, and you can't really compare retrofit seats because you could retrofit those to the IET as well.