StephenHunter
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Maybe some small vinyls to indicate a route as NSE did?No. That’s just confusing. It’s an intercity train or it’s a regional train or it’s a whatever else train but it shouldn’t be area spefific.
Maybe some small vinyls to indicate a route as NSE did?No. That’s just confusing. It’s an intercity train or it’s a regional train or it’s a whatever else train but it shouldn’t be area spefific.
I don't see how it is nationalisation - there are still going to be TOCs and ROSCOs - it's more like London Overground than BR surely?GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps
Network rail has now registered these with the Intellectual Property Office:-I think you will find it will probably be more like this
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Network rail has now registered these with the Intellectual Property Office:-
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Is it just me, or is something really wrong with it? Like my first reaction was 'that's hideous!'.Network rail has now registered these with the Intellectual Property Office:-
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Nostalgia.With Rail Alphabet 1? Curious, why not the new version, I wonder?
I think they were going for red white and blue, just failed in the execution.Is it just me, or is something really wrong with it? Like my first reaction was 'that's hideous!'.
I think it is the new version, just in bold - you can tell by the shape of the ‘t’.With Rail Alphabet 1? Curious, why not the new version, I wonder?
I can see what they are trying to do, replicate the look of the Union flag in the logo. But the irregularity of the flag (why so many accidentally fly it upside down), just looks so messy in these versions.Is it just me, or is something really wrong with it? Like my first reaction was 'that's hideous!'.
I think it is the new version, just in bold - you can tell by the shape of the ‘t’.
Straight out of 1964:
https://www.creativereview.co.uk/british-rail-logo/ (contains a load of pictures including something looking rather like this)
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Definitely the 't' from RA1.
Straight out of 1964:
https://www.creativereview.co.uk/british-rail-logo/ (contains a load of pictures including something looking rather like this)
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Definitely the 't' from RA1.
Is it?? It looks IDENTICAL to the one on the official Williams-Shapps review front
Actually you're right, the "y" gives it away.
But the logo looks AWFUL
It does. Notably it's a 1960s design - see my link above. Looks very 90s-abstract though.
Exactly. The double arrow logo must be one of the most recognised symbols in the country. Leave it as it is.What’s wrong with the old BR Logo??? You know the double arrow that appears on every station even if its on a blue background (maybe that dark blue, with the double arrow in white?).
It still looks rubbish. Too fussy and complicated.I love a good pile-on-the-Tories but I feel compelled to remind people, for about the tenth time, that this design has existed for decades already. See it here in the 1980 edition of the BR Corporate Identity Manual:
Oh yes, I agree; I just don't want people thinking it's a new invention.It still looks rubbish. Too fussy and complicated.
It scream look at me while being something you don't want to look at....It still looks rubbish. Too fussy and complicated.
What’s wrong with the old BR Logo??? You know the double arrow that appears on every station even if its on a blue background (maybe that dark blue, with the double arrow in white?).
Nothing is wrong with the BR double arrow. What I'm saying is that the whole logo (with the blue) was devised and trademarked by BR in the 1960s. I've linked to a document showing it above. I also think the "abstract" blue bit is decidedly 1990s in look - I was astonished when I originally found it was a 1960s design that BR didn't use in the end.
Edit: thanks @XAM2175 - looks like it was used for BR's international purposes, no doubt with the blue representing the Scottish part of the Union Flag but also the sea.
Suppose it saves a quid or three on design houses, but I'd still get Ray Stenning in to do a LM-a-like job on it, that was superb.
Actually, it would also sum up the current government pretty well.I’m just slightly surprised they haven’t rotated it through 90 degrees and claimed it represents better connectivity for the north